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Old 08-30-2006, 03:30 PM   #1
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Are you a Rep who controls Traffic?.. Do you want $500 in your own Pocket?

Hit me on ICQ or AIM and lets work a super sweet Referal deal

Get me on your Exits or Tgp's etc.
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:44 PM   #2
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:50 PM   #4
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Can a rep accept money like that without being in breach of contract (not that all reps have contracts but you know what I mean)? Or are you offering the company a sweet deal and not the rep personally?
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Yeah Roger, thats a bad idea. Anyone who now works with you will be suspected by their boss to be making the best deal for themselves instead of the company's
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Roger, I control the traffic!
Kindly send $500 please
Oh wait, you said reps...
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Old 08-30-2006, 06:41 PM   #12
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Roger, I control the traffic!
Kindly send $500 please
Oh wait, you said reps...
Janitors dont count. but I will buy you some Mc Donalds
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Yeah Roger, thats a bad idea. Anyone who now works with you will be suspected by their boss to be making the best deal for themselves instead of the company's

Why? at least they are working a deal. I'd be pissst If they just sat around

I pay the same on the join and I can send sales back. this just gives them incentive to work with us..

for those who think they will get in trouble I will talk to your boss for you..
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I understand what you are trying to accomplish here, but it could possibly create a conflict of interest for an employee. I expect our employees to seek out the best deals possible for our traffic. If that is you, and they want to start sending you traffic, then put the $500 in MY pocket and let me worry about appropriate compensation for that employee.

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I understand what you are trying to accomplish here, but it could possibly create a conflict of interest for an employee. I expect our employees to seek out the best deals possible for our traffic. If that is you, and they want to start sending you traffic, then put the $500 in MY pocket and let me worry about appropriate compensation for that employee.

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the problem with that is most reps always work with the same people. friends etc.
If I dont convert pull the traffic. I already pay the program owners well and we convert so its a win win.

I do understand your point but I have started threads if anyone wants to trade or do biz. and got no responses from reps. wouldnt you be pissed they arnt doing there job? I know I would be pissed.

If the Rep has to ask there boss go for it. but this has been going on since the begining of time. I'm all about greasing the right people
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Isn't that a bit unethical?

I.e. They should be choosing sponsors who convert best for the company, rather than those who are offering kick-backs. It's a bit like when countries used to bribe olympic officials -- before it became illegal to do so .
what he said...
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the problem with that is most reps always work with the same people. friends etc.
If I dont convert pull the traffic. I already pay the program owners well and we convert so its a win win.

I do understand your point but I have started threads if anyone wants to trade or do biz. and got no responses from reps. wouldnt you be pissed they arnt doing there job? I know I would be pissed.

If the Rep has to ask there boss go for it. but this has been going on since the begining of time. I'm all about greasing the right people
If you've worked (unsucessfully) to do a deal with a rep in the past, but got it now because of the $500 bribe --- won't that make the rep look unethical to his employer? Whether the deal makes sense or not, it casts doubt on the rep's motivation for the deal. It would also make me suspicious of what other deals are in place because of private bribes.

Why not just say "Let's start a new traffic deal and I'll wire you $500 right now." A good rep would bring that to the owner and say "Look at me, I'm a good rep, I'm making the company more money." That is what they are paid to do, right?
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Why not just say "Let's start a new traffic deal and I'll wire you $500 right now." A good rep would bring that to the owner and say "Look at me, I'm a good rep, I'm making the company more money." That is what they are paid to do, right?
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what if I give the Rep $500 and the company an extra $500?
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THis would never work.. I already posted Many other types of deals simmular to what you just said. and Reps dont care

Is it OK for Reps to go to all the shows and drink or eat on a sponsors tab and never do biz with them? whats the difference?

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Ok, I'm bored, I'll bump this again for ya.

My answer is this: If my rep brings me a deal structured like yours, and said "I don't feel right about taking the money directly without you knowing about it" --- I'd review the deal, and if it makes sense to do it, I'd bonus the $500 back to him for handling it in an ethical way.
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THis would never work.. I already posted Many other types of deals simmular to what you just said. and Reps dont care

Is it OK for Reps to go to all the shows and drink or eat on a sponsors tab and never do biz with them? whats the difference?
If a sponsor throws a party with free booze or food for ALL, he should only do it for promotion and branding. It is unreasonable to expect every person to "repay" for attending. If you throw a party only for people who agree to do biz with you, it isn't right for them to not honor their commitment.

I think people should show some CLASS, and keep their promises. If they don't, then you have a good reason not to welcome them at your next sponsored event.
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Roger we have finally worked out a deal but I don't need $500 bucks to make it happen. I have been looking for a reason to do business with you and I'm glad that it's working out.

If you feel the need to give anyone $500 because of it, donate it to charity
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Roger we have finally worked out a deal but I don't need $500 bucks to make it happen. I have been looking for a reason to do business with you and I'm glad that it's working out.

If you feel the need to give anyone $500 because of it, donate it to charity
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And Roger, please send Ice's $500 to the "Save the Steve Foundation" --- (you have my address)
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And Roger, please send Ice's $500 to the "Save the Steve Foundation" --- (you have my address)


Steve you need $500 about as much as a fat kid needs another twinkie

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I would see it as unethical and I dont think you really are going to do it. If you really wanted to do this you would talk to the reps privately, not on a public forum.
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Roger we have finally worked out a deal but I don't need $500 bucks to make it happen. I have been looking for a reason to do business with you and I'm glad that it's working out.

If you feel the need to give anyone $500 because of it, donate it to charity
I will donate it to the RogerV fund then. Thanks
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I would see it as unethical and I dont think you really are going to do it. If you really wanted to do this you would talk to the reps privately, not on a public forum.
Well To be honest I have never dont it. but I have given up in trying to get peoples attention to do biz..

I would rather just cut the fat out and pay the rep to try us out then. Sponsor shit all the time for branding. I could care less about branding I want to do Biz with you..
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Is it wrong for a waitress to seat me faster if I grease her or door guy let me in a night club etc... it doesnt take any buisness away from the establishment.
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There is the bottom line right there people.

I would rather get a deal going with people I know, have met and can call on the phone like you Roger then someone I haven't.
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Is it wrong for a waitress to seat me faster if I grease her or door guy let me in a night club etc... it doesnt take any buisness away from the establishment.
Of course it is wrong. Does it happen? Of course. Should said waitress and or doorman be canned for taking "bribes", yes.

It is a reps job to make traffic deals, if they only make them when bribed they ought not to have the job.

PS. I've been trying to get in touch with you but can't seem to catch you. If you could email myself or Andy about the deal we discussed that'd be great. You don't even have to pay me extra for pestering you about getting it going.

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There is the bottom line right there people.

I would rather get a deal going with people I know, have met and can call on the phone like you Roger then someone I haven't.

I really appreciate it.. I feel the same way.
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Of course it is wrong. Does it happen? Of course. Should said waitress and or doorman be canned for taking "bribes", yes.

It is a reps job to make traffic deals, if they only make them when bribed they ought not to have the job.

PS. I've been trying to get in touch with you but can't seem to catch you. If you could email myself or Andy about the deal we discussed that'd be great. You don't even have to pay me extra for pestering you about getting it going.

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Sorry babe I thought things were in motion. I will check my mail in the morning and see where we left things.. I went out of town for about 3 weeks.

I always let reps do side deals as long as they let me know up front..

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Sorry babe I thought things were in motion. I will check my mail in the morning and see where we left things.. I went out of town for about 3 weeks.

I always let reps do side deals as long as they let me know up front..
Ok, sounds good.

I'm not arguing over the rep thing, you and I don't have to see eye to eye on everything Heck we did fantastic for years not seeing eye to eye on everything
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I would rather just cut the fat out and pay the rep to try us out then.
I would rather just cut the fat out and deal with the owner or someone that can say yes to a deal.

You said yes right away to a deal and we got it going Roger.

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I need a new purse. With all of this money flying around... someone help me out!
There you go Roger! Ad buyers get cool gifts and shit. Do that, send your most hard working reps presents (naturally you have to give the company a cool gift basket as well) at Christams, for their birthday, whatever then they have some personal incentive and you get to show some appreciation to the reps that work so hard on the traffic deals you have going on.......
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There you go Roger! Ad buyers get cool gifts and shit. Do that, send your most hard working reps presents (naturally you have to give the company a cool gift basket as well) at Christams, for their birthday, whatever then they have some personal incentive and you get to show some appreciation to the reps that work so hard on the traffic deals you have going on.......
Somebody better send me something cool for my great idea!
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Ok only if we split it cause you did indeed start the idea and I expanded on it
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I'm gonna work on a new idea its been a while since the Referal System in the industry changed..

Here you go for your great idea dont spend it all in one place
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I think Gucci would be more like it
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly
Carol, looks like you're getting a penny. Don't have too much fun now.
thats 2 pennys and a lay
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