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tony286 · 09-10-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx

"Are there any men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?"......

That quote from the movie sums up the anti-terrorism policy of the Clinton administration. Multiple chances to take out Bin-Laden, too weak and indecisve to follow thru...

thats not so at all , its fiction remember thats why its called a docudrama

notabook · 09-10-2006, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronbotx

"Are there any men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?"......

That quote from the movie sums up the anti-terrorism policy of the Clinton administration. Multiple chances to take out Bin-Laden, too weak and indecisve to follow thru...

God damn, reading ?Multiple chances to take out Bin-Laden, too weak and indecisve to follow thru...? from your post, I thought you got Clinton confused with Bush for a second lol. Seems both the Clinton and Bush administration were soft when it came to Bin Laden eh? =)

kane · 09-10-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by smashface

I agree with you about free speech but they have been given a tremondous resource - radio spectrum - and were once required to air opposing views and educational/worthy programming. Granted that with cable the spectrum isnt as valuable but damn if they give it up willingly.

The networks don't do enough to sponsor and promote responsible political discourse.

And as to the disclaimer, it will be in 6px type and be onscreen for about 12 frames.

I was watching football and switched over just to see if they would have a disclaimer of sorts. Much to my surprise they had a full screen statement and actually read it aloud explaining that this was not a documentry and it was a dramatization and that some events had been fictionalized. At least they did that. It will be interesting to see what goes on tomorrow with the responses to it.

RF_Erick · 09-10-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

Regardless of the poltics, it just strikes me as odd that there is any need for a fictional 'docudrama' about 911. I would think the real stories are dramatic enough with out having to make more things up.

It's almost election time!

stickyfingerz · 09-10-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae

The legacy is set in history he can't change what is.
source:http://prorev.com/legacy.htm
See what I mean:

RECORDS SET
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

OTHER MATTERS INVESTIGATED BY SPECIAL PROSECUTORS
AND CONGRESS
OR REPORTED IN THE MEDIA

Bank and mail fraud
violations of campaign finance laws
illegal foreign campaign funding
improper exports of sensitive technology
physical violence and threats of violence
solicitation of perjury
intimidation of witnesses
bribery of witnesses
attempted intimidation of prosecutors
perjury before congressional committees
lying in statements to federal investigators and regulatory officials
flight of witnesses
obstruction of justice
bribery of cabinet members
real estate fraud
tax fraud
drug trafficking
failure to investigate drug trafficking
bribery of state officials
use of state police for personal purposes
exchange of promotions or benefits for sexual favors
using state police to provide false court testimony
laundering of drug money through a state agency
false reports by medical examiners and others investigating suspicious deaths
the firing of the RTC and FBI director when these agencies were investigating Clinton and his associates
failure to conduct autopsies in suspicious deaths
providing jobs in return for silence by witnesses
drug abuse
improper acquisition and use of 900 FBI files
improper futures trading
murder
sexual abuse of employees
false testimony before a federal judge
shredding of documents
withholding and concealment of subpoenaed documents
fabricated charges against (and improper firing of) White House employees
inviting drug traffickers
foreign agents and participants in organized crime to the White House.

.

Lies all lies haha... Or so Im sure Ill read further down on this thread.

ronbotx · 09-10-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

thats not so at all , its fiction remember thats why its called a docudrama

I don't know if you can read, since your posts indicate you're uniformed, but try these two and perhaps you'll get a clue.

MaddCaz · 09-10-2006, 08:47 PM

since when was clinton the bad dyde?

tony286 · 09-10-2006, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx

I don't know if you can read, since your posts indicate you're uniformed, but try these two and perhaps you'll get a clue.

READ THE 9-11 COMMISSION REPORT! In it it clearly states A) Never at any time did the CIA have Bin Laden surrounded in a house or anywhere else for that matter, B) The CIA had ?Standing orders? from President Clinton to ?Kill Bin Laden?, and ?Not to bother to call us about it, JUST DO IT?.

tony286 · 09-10-2006, 09:02 PM

the 9-11 Commission found that Clinton’s actions were not diverted by the sex scandal. In fact, he drew much criticism from the right about “Wagging the Dog” in the only attempt to kill Osama.

stickyfingerz · 09-10-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

the 9-11 Commission found that Clinton?s actions were not diverted by the sex scandal. In fact, he drew much criticism from the right about ?Wagging the Dog? in the only attempt to kill Osama.

He blew up some tents and an asprin factory. One of which was the day before the star investigation report was coming out. Hmmmmm geee ya. Doesnt do shit about it for years and the day before he fires off a couple million dollar missles at nothing. RIGHT!! No wagging there. BAHHHH ! lol

tony286 · 09-10-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

He blew up some tents and an asprin factory. One of which was the day before the star investigation report was coming out. Hmmmmm geee ya. Doesnt do shit about it for years and the day before he fires off a couple million dollar missles at nothing. RIGHT!! No wagging there. BAHHHH ! lol

THats so not true.Lets see your beloved W sent thousands to their death for a lie. How about the august report bin laden to attack us with airplanes? How about bin laden is still loose? Come tell me the bullshit spin.lol

notabook · 09-10-2006, 09:14 PM

This is something interesting, seems there is a religious connection to the ABC movie. Very interesting indeed:

The Path to 9/11 is a movie rife with historical inaccuracies that blames President Clinton while heaping praise on President Bush. The docudrama was written by avowed conservative Cyrus Nowrasteh, who once spoke on a panel entitled: ?Rebels With A Cause: How Conservatives Can Lead Hollywood?s Next Paradigm Shift.? But the ideological slant behind this movie goes far deeper than Nowrasteh. Research conducted by a reader at Democratic Underground has revealed that the Path to 9/11 was the result of a project hatched out by a small group of evangelical activists who sought to ?transform Hollywood from the inside out.? Here is what we know:

Cunningham Linked To YWAM. David Cunningham was contracted by ABC to direct Path to 9/11. Cunningham is the son of Loren and Darlene Cunningham, the founders of Youth With a Mission (YWAM), a Christian evangelical group that actively tries to get ?youth into short-term mission work and to give them opportunities to reach out in Jesus? name.?
YWAM Sponsored the Film Institute To Change Hollywood. YWAM created an ?auxillary? group called the Film Institute, which was explicitly aimed at achieving a Godly transformation and revolution TO and THROUGH the Film and Television industry.?

Film Institute Began the ?Untitled History Project.? The Film Institute?s first project was simply referred to as the ?Untitled History Project? (UHP). In July 2005, Fox News reported that filming had begun on an ABC miniseries about 9/11 that ABC officials and producers were referring to it as the ?Untitled History Project.? A production company entitled ?UHP Productions,? which was co-founded with Disney began filming Path to 9/11 in late 2005.

UHP Became Path to 9/11. UHP Productions has only produced one movie. Harvey Keitel, who stars as FBI special agent John O?Neill in the movie, said that when he received the original script, ?it said ABC History Project.?

As Chewbacca would say? WrrrRRaaaaAAAAAaaaaarr

Compdoctor · 09-10-2006, 09:16 PM

What your really not thinking about, is the fact that this was aired without comericals, on ABC. Did I say there were no comericals?

stickyfingerz · 09-10-2006, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

THats so not true.Lets see your beloved W sent thousands to their death for a lie. How about the august report bin laden to attack us with airplanes? How about bin laden is still loose? Come tell me the bullshit spin.lol

You're right it wasnt the next day it was 20 days later

Quote:

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/12/binladen.profile/

on August 20, 1998, President Clinton ordered cruise missile attacks against suspected terrorist training camps in Afghanistan and a pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum, Sudan.

http://www.npr.org/news/national/starrspecial.html

On Wednesday, September 9, 1998 Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr delivered a 445-page report to Congress alleging 11 impeachable offenses by President Clinton. Here you can find NPR News coverage and the actual documents. The reports are graphic and we urge you to exercise caution when reading, listening or watching them.

HOWEVER what I was thinking of is it was the DAY AFTER THIS!

Quote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_1998

August 19 - Monica Lewinsky scandal: U.S. President Bill Clinton admits in taped testimony that he had an "improper physical relationship" with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. He also admits before the nation that he "misled people" about his relationship.

Nope no wagging the dog there to shake the stank off himself nahh.

And this below is just a bit of irony I had to post.

Quote:

Clinton Apology
President Clinton apologized to Monica Lewinsky, her family and the American people during a National Prayer Breakfast on Friday, Sept. 11.

Lev · 09-10-2006, 09:53 PM

Bush is an idiot

https://youtube.com/results?searc...&search=Search

tony286 · 09-10-2006, 09:54 PM

what about bin laden still being loose thats all history W is president now and bin laden is loose.

stickyfingerz · 09-10-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

what about bin laden still being loose thats all history W is president now and bin laden is loose.

Ya and his organization is getting trampled. But does this mean you admit to Clinton wagging the dog now? Given the dates do you not even question the motives?

tony286 · 09-10-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Ya and his organization is getting trampled. But does this mean you admit to Clinton wagging the dog now? Given the dates do you not even question the motives?

no I dont but that is history bin laden did this to our country and he is still free. Maybe Clinton could of got him if the right wasnt crying missles for monica but thats history lets talk about today. He is loose, we were promised dead or alive, he hasnt been caught.

stickyfingerz · 09-10-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

no I dont but that is history bin laden did this to our country and he is still free. Maybe Clinton could of got him if the right wasnt crying missles for monica but thats history lets talk about today. He is loose, we were promised dead or alive, he hasnt been caught.

Well actually what Bin Laden did is history too. So we should just let it go by your thinking.

And btw Clinton had many an opportunity to get Bin Laden prior to Monicagate. He was offered up cuffed and ready to go and he refused. This was after the cole bombings. The FEDERAL GOVERMENTS proceedings for going after Clinton for LYING UNDER OATH IN A FEDERAL COURTROOM had nothing to do with stopping him from getting Bin Laden. Amazing how much the liberal media has twisted history into what you folks belive to be truth now. And if you cannot see how obvious the intentions for the missle strike were then I cant help you.

tony286 · 09-10-2006, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Well actually what Bin Laden did is history too. So we should just let it go by your thinking.

And btw Clinton had many an opportunity to get Bin Laden prior to Monicagate. He was offered up cuffed and ready to go and he refused. This was after the cole bombings. The FEDERAL GOVERMENTS proceedings for going after Clinton for LYING UNDER OATH IN A FEDERAL COURTROOM had nothing to do with stopping him from getting Bin Laden. Amazing how much the liberal media has twisted history into what you folks belive to be truth now. And if you cannot see how obvious the intentions for the missle strike were then I cant help you.

liberal media ABc gave this docudrama to Rush and not Clinton pleaser wake the fuck up. Also the 911 commission found he was never given bin laden on a silver platter that was right wing bullshit. Whats truly amazing to you none of this is bush's fault and he is doing just fine by you. Very scary

smashface · 09-10-2006, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

He blew up some tents and an asprin factory. One of which was the day before the star investigation report was coming out. Hmmmmm geee ya. Doesnt do shit about it for years and the day before he fires off a couple million dollar missles at nothing. RIGHT!! No wagging there. BAHHHH ! lol

At what time did stop being the President? Was he just supposed to sit back and not try to seek retribution for the attack on the embassies?

His duty is to the American people, just like President Bush, not the Republican Party and its right wing.

TheSenator · 09-10-2006, 11:09 PM

9/11 HAPPENED ON BUSH'S WATCH PERIOD.

Takes some responsiblity you fucking idiots!

Even life long Republicans can see the mistakes of the BUSH administration on the "War on Terror".

Saddam did not plan 9/11 you dumb shits, it was OSAMA.

stickyfingerz · 09-10-2006, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

liberal media ABc gave this docudrama to Rush and not Clinton pleaser wake the fuck up. Also the 911 commission found he was never given bin laden on a silver platter that was right wing bullshit. Whats truly amazing to you none of this is bush's fault and he is doing just fine by you. Very scary

Yes yet Clinton admits he could of got him himself. ......

Its on audio tape.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton

They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.

stickyfingerz · 09-10-2006, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by smashface

At what time did stop being the President? Was he just supposed to sit back and not try to seek retribution for the attack on the embassies?

His duty is to the American people, just like President Bush, not the Republican Party and its right wing.

Try to keep up mmmkay?

Webby · 09-11-2006, 12:02 AM

Sure are some real sicko assholes in the US - awesome demonstration of hate at it's best.

They collect like flies to a fucking flypaper - wish they'd get stuck there

pocketkangaroo · 09-11-2006, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Ya and his organization is getting trampled. But does this mean you admit to Clinton wagging the dog now? Given the dates do you not even question the motives?

Well global terrorism is on the rise. Not sure how "trampling" his organization equates to more terrorism.

american pervert · 09-11-2006, 12:27 AM

watch this video- press for truth

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ress+for+truth

Damian_Maxcash · 09-11-2006, 12:36 AM

There was nothing that damning of Clinton - at least in the 1st episode.

In hindsight of course lots of things could have been done to stop 9/11 - but in the real world thats not how it works.

FetishTom · 09-11-2006, 12:56 AM

As a non American I am kind of curious if Americans ever debate serious issues outside of the Republican/Democrat divide. Judging by this thread apparently not.

The Clinton/bin Laden issue is like the Ho Chi Min issue in the 1940's where he was assisted by and worked for the CIA or the Taliban movement in the 1980's which was also partly funded and assisted by the Americans.

In short it was judged to be the correct decision at the time.

Clinton had no grounds for 'getting' bin Laden as no crime had been committed against America or American interests and the seeds of Al Qaeda were cultivated in part with American aid back in the 1980's prior to Clinton's presidency.

Trying to get Clinton on this is absurd and pointless save for trying to score points in a Republican/Democrat slanging match. Frankly if the gist of the Republican argument is that this is all Clinton's fault then quite clearly the current administration must be in bigger trouble on this issue then we realise.

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notabook Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Not a Library! Posts: 9,748	This is something interesting, seems there is a religious connection to the ABC movie. Very interesting indeed: The Path to 9/11 is a movie rife with historical inaccuracies that blames President Clinton while heaping praise on President Bush. The docudrama was written by avowed conservative Cyrus Nowrasteh, who once spoke on a panel entitled: ?Rebels With A Cause: How Conservatives Can Lead Hollywood?s Next Paradigm Shift.? But the ideological slant behind this movie goes far deeper than Nowrasteh. Research conducted by a reader at Democratic Underground has revealed that the Path to 9/11 was the result of a project hatched out by a small group of evangelical activists who sought to ?transform Hollywood from the inside out.? Here is what we know: Cunningham Linked To YWAM. David Cunningham was contracted by ABC to direct Path to 9/11. Cunningham is the son of Loren and Darlene Cunningham, the founders of Youth With a Mission (YWAM), a Christian evangelical group that actively tries to get ?youth into short-term mission work and to give them opportunities to reach out in Jesus? name.? YWAM Sponsored the Film Institute To Change Hollywood. YWAM created an ?auxillary? group called the Film Institute, which was explicitly aimed at achieving a Godly transformation and revolution TO and THROUGH the Film and Television industry.? Film Institute Began the ?Untitled History Project.? The Film Institute?s first project was simply referred to as the ?Untitled History Project? (UHP). In July 2005, Fox News reported that filming had begun on an ABC miniseries about 9/11 that ABC officials and producers were referring to it as the ?Untitled History Project.? A production company entitled ?UHP Productions,? which was co-founded with Disney began filming Path to 9/11 in late 2005. UHP Became Path to 9/11. UHP Productions has only produced one movie. Harvey Keitel, who stars as FBI special agent John O?Neill in the movie, said that when he received the original script, ?it said ABC History Project.? As Chewbacca would say? WrrrRRaaaaAAAAAaaaaarr __________________

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FetishTom Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 341	As a non American I am kind of curious if Americans ever debate serious issues outside of the Republican/Democrat divide. Judging by this thread apparently not. The Clinton/bin Laden issue is like the Ho Chi Min issue in the 1940's where he was assisted by and worked for the CIA or the Taliban movement in the 1980's which was also partly funded and assisted by the Americans. In short it was judged to be the correct decision at the time. Clinton had no grounds for 'getting' bin Laden as no crime had been committed against America or American interests and the seeds of Al Qaeda were cultivated in part with American aid back in the 1980's prior to Clinton's presidency. Trying to get Clinton on this is absurd and pointless save for trying to score points in a Republican/Democrat slanging match. Frankly if the gist of the Republican argument is that this is all Clinton's fault then quite clearly the current administration must be in bigger trouble on this issue then we realise.