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longdongsilver · 10-05-2006, 11:00 AM

Yesterday i check my mail box, and see an email claiming that they can't join my site. I get one of these every once in a while so i check it out...and yeah sure enough the ccbill join link fails. This is several hours after the the email had been sent. I check the stats and the form hits are way off. Actually they could not be more way off 0% of form hits went to submit. Yep 0%, over the last 3 years it's averaged 25% form hits to form submit and around 75% convert.... never have i seen less that 15% but 0% WTF.

This is getting to be a pain in the ass, and if you get more sales with your backup (not in cascade) than with your primary on a regular basis you know there is a problem.

So any alternatives out there?

Ray@TastyDollars · 10-05-2006, 11:07 AM

Don't quote me on this, but I don't think the problem is directly related to CCbill, there have been similar issues with "form hits" with all billers yesterday. Yesterday was one oddddddd day my friend.

Ray

andrej_NDC · 10-05-2006, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray@TastyDollars

Yesterday was one oddddddd day my friend.

Shit and I thought I'm alone. Yesterday sucked badly.

Sveindt Beindt · 10-05-2006, 12:02 PM

Yes yesterday was real fucked up

DutchTeenCash · 10-05-2006, 12:05 PM

yday wasnt the best day no - days before yday were pretty amazing though all way over average

DutchTeenCash · 10-05-2006, 12:05 PM

yday wasnt the best day no - days before yday were pretty amazing though all way over average

longdongsilver · 10-05-2006, 12:15 PM

thanks for the feedback, and i agree it could have been a strange one of kind of day, but i mean 0% when i've never ever in 3 years seen less than 15% and average 25%?

also the back-up biller which is not even in a cascade...the surfer has to go back to my site and click the other biller and go through the entire process again ...has been getting more sales than usual the last few weeks.

oh well , just have to endure this painful time and hope it passes....however i'm almost ready to give up ccbill for a while and try some others. It's strange how few 3rd party billers seem to be around. There needs to be more competition really i mean 16%.. WTF, imagine if i was paying this for my mainstream sales. We get a ton of fraud attemps since we sell consoles and games but with everything including insurance it's around 5% through our merchant account. I know this is not all the billers fault but i'm certain they don't pay anything like this. Am i the only one paying 16% ? do you guys get hit with that or did you haggle them down? seems a fucking hiddeous percentage really. TBH i've not really noticed the price of joining and adult site rise in the last 7 years since i've been pushing porn if anything they have dropped.

How the hell do average sized programs even survive under these conditions add to that the dollar dumped out and housing has gone through the roof. I mean really only the large program owners that live in the US can do adult as their only income?

CCBill_Adam · 10-05-2006, 12:29 PM

Hey Guys,

As always, you can contact us anytime day or night to look into any billing related issues affecting your site.

As far as form hits go, we don't have any known issues. However, we'd be happy to look into this further. Please contact the CCBill Client Support department if you need further assistance.

Adam K
CCBill Client Support
[email protected]
1-800-510-2859

corvette · 10-05-2006, 12:31 PM

lds, a join page link not working is VERY unusual, unless its maybe a network issue, if you want to check this out, i would get with Client Support to have the issue looked at.

if you want to find out what happened...

dotcommer · 10-05-2006, 12:34 PM

Here's our form submissions with CCbill

% of Form hits % of Form submissions
10/1/2006 59.85% 72.05%
10/2/2006 59.36% 76.51%
10/3/2006 63.75% 75.63%
10/4/2006 70.63% 57.87%
10/5/2006 45.87% 78.00%

corvette · 10-05-2006, 12:35 PM

whoops, adam was a bit faster

andrej_NDC · 10-05-2006, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx

yday wasnt the best day no - days before yday were pretty amazing though all way over average

Yeah, not only above average, I had fantastic sales and thought that October will be awesome. Yesterday it stopped, I hope it was just one bad day.

The Ghost · 10-05-2006, 12:40 PM

Paycom ratios were great yesterday. We temporarily moved CCbill to second position in the cascade.

**nothing negative against CCBill at all, they are still great

andrej_NDC · 10-05-2006, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longdongsilver

Am i the only one paying 16% ?

Look at it like this. When you work your ass off and make a shitload of sales, you can go down to about 11%.

Shoehorn! · 10-05-2006, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

Shit and I thought I'm alone. Yesterday sucked badly.

Yesterday was awesome.

vicki · 10-05-2006, 12:45 PM

Even though I set direct merchant accounts I consider CCBill to be the prime 3rd party biller around. Their longevity and solid business model makes them about the only 3rd party I'd trust to still 'be there' in the coming years.

That being said - if you'd like to try a direct merchant account with much lower rates, feel free to hit me up for details :-)

kaktuz · 10-05-2006, 12:46 PM

u ccbill guys have icq or something?

andrej_NDC · 10-05-2006, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

Yesterday was awesome.

The past week was awesome here, even better, just except yesterday.

Chichio · 10-05-2006, 12:59 PM

I would actually say something weird has been happening for about 5 days now with most processors. Everything is back rolling today for me. CCBill is doing great.

Violetta · 10-05-2006, 01:41 PM

I've had lots of problems lately, but not ccbill... thank god!

10-05-2006, 11:00 AM	#1
longdongsilver Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 378	ccbill - one problem after another - any alternatives Yesterday i check my mail box, and see an email claiming that they can't join my site. I get one of these every once in a while so i check it out...and yeah sure enough the ccbill join link fails. This is several hours after the the email had been sent. I check the stats and the form hits are way off. Actually they could not be more way off 0% of form hits went to submit. Yep 0%, over the last 3 years it's averaged 25% form hits to form submit and around 75% convert.... never have i seen less that 15% but 0% WTF. This is getting to be a pain in the ass, and if you get more sales with your backup (not in cascade) than with your primary on a regular basis you know there is a problem. So any alternatives out there?

10-05-2006, 11:07 AM	#2
Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	Don't quote me on this, but I don't think the problem is directly related to CCbill, there have been similar issues with "form hits" with all billers yesterday. Yesterday was one oddddddd day my friend. Ray __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

10-05-2006, 12:02 PM	#4
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10-05-2006, 12:05 PM	#5
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10-05-2006, 12:05 PM	#6
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10-05-2006, 12:15 PM	#7
longdongsilver Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 378	thanks for the feedback, and i agree it could have been a strange one of kind of day, but i mean 0% when i've never ever in 3 years seen less than 15% and average 25%? also the back-up biller which is not even in a cascade...the surfer has to go back to my site and click the other biller and go through the entire process again ...has been getting more sales than usual the last few weeks. oh well , just have to endure this painful time and hope it passes....however i'm almost ready to give up ccbill for a while and try some others. It's strange how few 3rd party billers seem to be around. There needs to be more competition really i mean 16%.. WTF, imagine if i was paying this for my mainstream sales. We get a ton of fraud attemps since we sell consoles and games but with everything including insurance it's around 5% through our merchant account. I know this is not all the billers fault but i'm certain they don't pay anything like this. Am i the only one paying 16% ? do you guys get hit with that or did you haggle them down? seems a fucking hiddeous percentage really. TBH i've not really noticed the price of joining and adult site rise in the last 7 years since i've been pushing porn if anything they have dropped. How the hell do average sized programs even survive under these conditions add to that the dollar dumped out and housing has gone through the roof. I mean really only the large program owners that live in the US can do adult as their only income?

10-05-2006, 12:29 PM	#8
CCBill_Adam Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 46	Hey Guys, As always, you can contact us anytime day or night to look into any billing related issues affecting your site. As far as form hits go, we don't have any known issues. However, we'd be happy to look into this further. Please contact the CCBill Client Support department if you need further assistance. Adam K CCBill Client Support [email protected] 1-800-510-2859

10-05-2006, 12:31 PM	#9
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	lds, a join page link not working is VERY unusual, unless its maybe a network issue, if you want to check this out, i would get with Client Support to have the issue looked at. if you want to find out what happened... __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

10-05-2006, 12:34 PM	#10
dotcommer Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 312	Here's our form submissions with CCbill % of Form hits % of Form submissions 10/1/2006 59.85% 72.05% 10/2/2006 59.36% 76.51% 10/3/2006 63.75% 75.63% 10/4/2006 70.63% 57.87% 10/5/2006 45.87% 78.00%

10-05-2006, 12:35 PM	#11
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10-05-2006, 12:40 PM	#13
The Ghost IslandDollars.com Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Icq: 176176 Posts: 12,188	Paycom ratios were great yesterday. We temporarily moved CCbill to second position in the cascade. **nothing negative against CCBill at all, they are still great __________________ ISLAND DOLLARS 1000's of Exclusive TS scenes / Constant Updates Best TS Network your surfers will ever join

10-05-2006, 12:45 PM	#16
vicki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Deep in the heart o' Texas Posts: 1,478	Even though I set direct merchant accounts I consider CCBill to be the prime 3rd party biller around. Their longevity and solid business model makes them about the only 3rd party I'd trust to still 'be there' in the coming years. That being said - if you'd like to try a direct merchant account with much lower rates, feel free to hit me up for details :-) __________________ If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment. HR merchant accounts from 3.45% solid biz since 98 victoriakozub AT gmail.com skype: victoria.kozub \| ICQ: 74296746

10-05-2006, 12:46 PM	#17
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10-05-2006, 12:59 PM	#19
Chichio Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,467	I would actually say something weird has been happening for about 5 days now with most processors. Everything is back rolling today for me. CCBill is doing great. __________________ Exclusive Asian Content Program - FlyHighCash

10-05-2006, 01:41 PM	#20
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	I've had lots of problems lately, but not ccbill... thank god! __________________ M&A Queen