Well, I take a coder to court today - GoFuckYourself.com

Juilan · 10-10-2006, 05:53 AM

So I hire this friend to do coding & programming of a mainstream website and give him a $500 check advance months ago. He runs off with the money and doesn't do a drop of work. After repeated calls and emails he just thinks ignoring his obligation will make me just forget about it I guess.

Funny thing was I got fedex's and calls from the People's court tv show and some other court show who wanted to air the dispute.

I turned them all down. Will this fucker shows up today to face the music? I'll know soon enough...

Pipecrew · 10-10-2006, 07:28 AM

Crazy, I thought all those court tv shows were B.S

BitAudioVideo · 10-10-2006, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juilan

Funny thing was I got fedex's and calls from the People's court tv show and some other court show who wanted to air the dispute.

I turned them all down. Will this fucker shows up today to face the music? I'll know soon enough...

why turn them down?? spam your new mainstream url!

minusonebit · 10-10-2006, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juilan

Funny thing was I got fedex's and calls from the People's court tv show and some other court show who wanted to air the dispute.

I turned them all down. Will this fucker shows up today to face the music? I'll know soon enough...

Way to shit all over a killer arena in which to plug your website for free nationwide advertising.

ae-sc · 10-10-2006, 10:54 AM

Let us know when it airs if you go on.

This would be great

HaleyWilde · 10-10-2006, 10:57 AM

I thought those shows were all BS too, until I got a letter from the Judge Joe Brown show, inviting me to be a guest for a case against this guy I knew. I didn't believe it was real, so I didn't go.....would've been fun though! Good Luck with your case!

martinsc · 10-10-2006, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BitAudioVideo

why turn them down?? spam your new mainstream url!

Juilan · 10-10-2006, 11:21 AM

Ok so I'm back now, and no it wasn't on People's Court

So in a nutshell coder didn't do any work, but today he actually shows up for court and has a fabricated printout of a "modeled database" for my site. This was work he made up after getting the summons and it was news to me.

I never gave him direction to start that and we had not even secured dedicated hosting to start the site and build it on.

So the moment of ownage was when he stated he had indeed done some work and that it was a database. So I told the judge, your honer that statement is false and the work is a fabrication and I can prove it. So I approached the bench with post summons dated emails where the coder admits the extent of the work done by him had been "thought & research" and that he could not START a database without parameters and directions from me.

So overall, not a terrible experience, don't get ripped off!

Nubiles · 10-10-2006, 11:49 AM

Congrats on winning.

lambpie · 10-10-2006, 11:53 AM

i had a similar problem with a web designer, it took him 9 mths to do the work id already paid for :-(

Violetta · 10-10-2006, 12:14 PM

Hope you take this fucker down! Good luck!

Juilan · 10-10-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pornopete

You get what you paid for.

The bid was $3500, the coder decided to run with my $500 advance within 20 days of getting it.

teksonline · 10-10-2006, 12:27 PM

what did you win, you approached the bench? Noone approaches the bench
If you won, what did you win, what was the claim?

Sorry but this sounds like a crock of shit to me

squishypimp · 10-10-2006, 12:33 PM

so are you really going live on TV?

madawgz · 10-10-2006, 12:38 PM

get that fucker, hope you got your money back

V_RocKs · 10-10-2006, 12:40 PM

You won? Shit... I win would have been your mainstream project getting airtime...

tranza · 10-10-2006, 12:57 PM

Keep us posted...

Juilan · 10-10-2006, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teksonline

what did you win, you approached the bench? Noone approaches the bench
If you won, what did you win, what was the claim?

Sorry but this sounds like a crock of shit to me

It was small claims court and the old judge says approach the bench when you have discovery documents he wants to take a closer look at.

I don't get the notice of judegment for 20 days so that's when you find out what the Judge has finally decided.

Juilan · 10-10-2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

You won? Shit... I win would have been your mainstream project getting airtime...

Yeah I considered accepting People's Court. Wasn't the right call for this project though.

BusterBunny · 10-10-2006, 01:10 PM

congrats to the winner

Vitasoy · 10-10-2006, 01:17 PM

haha the nevres of some people, but grats

beemk · 10-10-2006, 01:21 PM

and thats why you NEVER pay up front.

pornguy · 10-10-2006, 01:23 PM

and this was a friend?
DAMN>

minusonebit · 10-10-2006, 05:43 PM

You know why you got the letters, right? Because he went around and submitted the case to them.

They don’t actually search for cases, plenty of attention whores call them. Or smart people, in some cases. I was involved in a small claims case that was filed against me and the guy who filed it called Judge Judy. I did end up going, and it did make it on TV but I missed it and never have seen the episode re-run, though I watch for it all the time. This was back when there was no such thing as TiVo and you had to actually be around to tape a show.

The way these shows work is as follows: one party contacts the show, the show calls the Court to get details of the case and if they decide it would be interesting, they invite the parties onto the show. If they accept, lawyers for the show help the parties prepare a joint motion to dismiss (which is almost always granted without exception, since, after all, it is a joint motion) and get the official case closed up. Once that’s done and finalized, the producers fax an agreement out to the parties which explains the whole thing, and setup travel and a date to bring everyone out to the studio to film the thing. Judge Judy is filmed at KLTA Studios in Hollywood.

Judge Judy and other shows like it are really "arbitration in a court-room like setting for the cameras". Because the shows themselves would likely get sued by unhappy litigants (look at how "fair" Judge Judy is, she does whatever the hell she wants) the shows require a full and complete disclaimer and release. In addition, the amount of any "judgments" entered against the parties are paid by the studio, so none of the litigants, even if they lose, pay anything.

So, if you fuck someone over and they sue and you know you are going to lose, it might be best to try and get it onto the show so that someone else (in that case, the studios) can pay your judgment. And you will get a free trip out of the thing and some cash, as they pay an appearance fee whether you win or loose.

10-10-2006, 05:53 AM	#1
Juilan Sultan of Swing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: XXXodus Posts: 15,141	Well, I take a coder to court today So I hire this friend to do coding & programming of a mainstream website and give him a $500 check advance months ago. He runs off with the money and doesn't do a drop of work. After repeated calls and emails he just thinks ignoring his obligation will make me just forget about it I guess. Funny thing was I got fedex's and calls from the People's court tv show and some other court show who wanted to air the dispute. I turned them all down. Will this fucker shows up today to face the music? I'll know soon enough... __________________ My Best Converting VOD Sponsor \|

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Juilan Sultan of Swing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: XXXodus Posts: 15,141	Ok so I'm back now, and no it wasn't on People's Court So in a nutshell coder didn't do any work, but today he actually shows up for court and has a fabricated printout of a "modeled database" for my site. This was work he made up after getting the summons and it was news to me. I never gave him direction to start that and we had not even secured dedicated hosting to start the site and build it on. So the moment of ownage was when he stated he had indeed done some work and that it was a database. So I told the judge, your honer that statement is false and the work is a fabrication and I can prove it. So I approached the bench with post summons dated emails where the coder admits the extent of the work done by him had been "thought & research" and that he could not START a database without parameters and directions from me. So overall, not a terrible experience, don't get ripped off! __________________ My Best Converting VOD Sponsor \|

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minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	You know why you got the letters, right? Because he went around and submitted the case to them. They don’t actually search for cases, plenty of attention whores call them. Or smart people, in some cases. I was involved in a small claims case that was filed against me and the guy who filed it called Judge Judy. I did end up going, and it did make it on TV but I missed it and never have seen the episode re-run, though I watch for it all the time. This was back when there was no such thing as TiVo and you had to actually be around to tape a show. The way these shows work is as follows: one party contacts the show, the show calls the Court to get details of the case and if they decide it would be interesting, they invite the parties onto the show. If they accept, lawyers for the show help the parties prepare a joint motion to dismiss (which is almost always granted without exception, since, after all, it is a joint motion) and get the official case closed up. Once that’s done and finalized, the producers fax an agreement out to the parties which explains the whole thing, and setup travel and a date to bring everyone out to the studio to film the thing. Judge Judy is filmed at KLTA Studios in Hollywood. Judge Judy and other shows like it are really "arbitration in a court-room like setting for the cameras". Because the shows themselves would likely get sued by unhappy litigants (look at how "fair" Judge Judy is, she does whatever the hell she wants) the shows require a full and complete disclaimer and release. In addition, the amount of any "judgments" entered against the parties are paid by the studio, so none of the litigants, even if they lose, pay anything. So, if you fuck someone over and they sue and you know you are going to lose, it might be best to try and get it onto the show so that someone else (in that case, the studios) can pay your judgment. And you will get a free trip out of the thing and some cash, as they pay an appearance fee whether you win or loose.