Couple pegged as 'sex offenders' over porn site

[buck30]

Again, in Snottsdale, AZ...(thats scottsdale for most of you)

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...104inside.html

And, one of the complainers, Brenda High, has a shady past, she was kicked off a school board in 1995 for making a profit by selling toys to the school..and got her kid to commit suicide because he was depressed..


Of course, she is mormon, and gives republicans a bad name..

you can reach her at [email protected].

[gooddomains]

what is this about ?

[detoxed]

But it is not illegal to operate a Web-based adult business from a home, city staff members said.

Judy Register, manager of Citizen and Neighborhood Resources, said there was nothing Scottsdale could do.

"We cannot take any action unless there is indeed some illegal activity," she said.




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so whats up with this title you got a personal grudge against some lady thats name was mentiond?

[DaddyHalbucks]

Yep, pay attention to those zoning issues.

[buck30]

Originally Posted by detoxed

But it is not illegal to operate a Web-based adult business from a home, city staff members said.

Judy Register, manager of Citizen and Neighborhood Resources, said there was nothing Scottsdale could do.

"We cannot take any action unless there is indeed some illegal activity," she said.




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so whats up with this title you got a personal grudge against some lady thats name was mentiond?

Yeah, I have a problem with Scottdale and alll the assholes that live there. I live in tempe, but scottsdale has forced Jenna Jameson out, tried to close down her strip club, and that is just recently. The fact that they say "In order to protect your neighborhood and your children it is imperative that you take action now" since when is this a threat to children?

You seen half they fucking kids nowdays anyway? check out myspace, youtube, or just drive down the street...
these parents/concerned people need to worry about their own kids behavior instead of waste time on bashing/harassing people that are no threat.



Property Information

http://www.maricopa.gov/Assessor/Gis...?ID=133-34-059




Parcel #: 217-44-321
Property Address: 12199 E MARY KATHERINE DR
SCOTTSDALE 85259
Subdivision: VISTA BONITA
Lot #: 4
MCR #: 41416
Description: VISTA BONITA MCR 414-16
Section Township Range: 23 3N 5E
Owner Information


Owner: HIGH GLEN T/BRENDA E
In Care Of:
Mailing Address: 12199 E MARY KATHERINE DR
SCOTTSDALE AZ 85259 USA
Deed #: 051423700 (9/27/2005)
Sales Price: $1,100,000

[buck30]

correct information is in post #5..this is the lady who is leading labeling wifeys world as 'child molesters'

[Hotrocket]

First I want to say I promote Wifey's World and believe they have the right to live where ever they want and conduct business within the privacy of their own home.

I do have a problem with the title of this thread as I find no place in the story posted where anyone is quoted as calling them 'sex offenders' as well in post #6 where buck30 claims this lady is labeling them 'child molesters'.
..now maybe she is saying that..but you've shown no proof and I think you are doing more harm to Wifey than helping the situation as your statements are the ones labeling them that since you haven't shown any proof.

I'm sure your intentions are to support Wifey in this but I don't think they need these kinds of terms attributed to them in a public forum that will easily be picked up by the SE's and give the public reading this, that wont even bother to read the story believe that it is true.

I think its more important to be accurate in your statements than to try and get views and support by posting inflammatory and unsubstantiated terms.

Like I said above..if what you have said is accurate then post something to back it up..I think you will find most people will support this situation and Wifey without those kinds of statements.

[buck30]

Originally Posted by Hotrocket

First I want to say I promote Wifey's World and believe they have the right to live where ever they want and conduct business within the privacy of their own home.

I do have a problem with the title of this thread as I find no place in the story posted where anyone is quoted as calling them 'sex offenders' as well in post #6 where buck30 claims this lady is labeling them 'child molesters'.
..now maybe she is saying that..but you've shown no proof and I think you are doing more harm to Wifey than helping the situation as your statements are the ones labeling them that since you haven't shown any proof.

I'm sure your intentions are to support Wifey in this but I don't think they need these kinds of terms attributed to them in a public forum that will easily be picked up by the SE's and give the public reading this, that wont even bother to read the story believe that it is true.

I think its more important to be accurate in your statements than to try and get views and support by posting inflammatory and unsubstantiated terms.

Like I said above..if what you have said is accurate then post something to back it up..I think you will find most people will support this situation and Wifey without those kinds of statements.

From the article:
"protect your neighborhood and your children"
full http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...4porn1104.html

what then are the neighbors trying to protect their children from, if not child molesters...the construction trucks that will build the house?

[Hotrocket]

Look, nowhere in that article does it use the words 'sex offenders or child molesters'..YOU are the one that inferring that and using those terms.

You aren't helping them doing so, YOU ARE THE ONE LABELING THEM THAT and I'm sure they don't appreciate it.
You lose any credibility by doing so and not backing it up..

I don't know why its so hard to understand.

NOBODY has been quoted as using those terms except YOU.

now stop it before you do more harm than good.

[L-Pink]

I've heard of buck-naked are you buck-stupid?

What are you talking about?

[buck30]

Originally Posted by Hotrocket

Look, nowhere in that article does it use the words 'sex offenders or child molesters'..YOU are the one that inferring that and using those terms.

You aren't helping them doing so, YOU ARE THE ONE LABELING THEM THAT and I'm sure they don't appreciate it.
You lose any credibility by doing so and not backing it up..

I don't know why its so hard to understand.

NOBODY has been quoted as using those terms except YOU.

now stop it before you do more harm than good.

tell me then, what the groups flyers are warning the neighborhood about.
the subject is a couple that run a pornographic web site; the name of the group opposing them is Northeast Valley Coalition Against Pornography; ". . as a parent and homeowner in the area, I am concerned that this business would be established or moved to our area," resident Phil Mihok; another resident wants to know how to 'keep the couple out.'

There are 4 FACTS in the article that would lead to the conclusion by a reasonable person the same thing I believe, However, I am open to another explanation.

Please, let me know what else this neighborhood group could think the owners of the site are..

[buck30]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I've heard of buck-naked are you buck-stupid?

What are you talking about?

Read english dipshit

[L-Pink]

Buck, neighbors are probably assuming content will be produced there. Easy mistake to make if you are not privy to facts.

Question? How did potential neighbors know what they do for a living? Why don't they just rent office space in a shitty part of town and check the mail once a week.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by buck30

Read english dipshit

Post facts not hysteria. This is a stupid thread

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by Hotrocket

I do have a problem with the title of this thread

Dude this is GFY, get over it.

[buck30]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Buck, neighbors are probably assuming content will be produced there. Easy mistake to make if you are not privy to facts.

Question? How did potential neighbors know what they do for a living? Why don't they just rent office space in a shitty part of town and check the mail once a week.

You know, good question, how did they know what they did for a living. hmm.

and I guess the article might be the first time the neighbors heard from the owners that they were not going to produce content there. However, so what if they did? most zoning allows business without a license or permit as long as there is no excessive foot or vehicle traffic, which, this type of business there isn't much.

My point is, frickin scottsdale, always gets their panties in a bunch, it drives me nuts. I believe that the neighbors are afraid that their children will be in danger of being molested, or attacked because of this kind of business. It is just stupidity to think that adult content production means they are freaks and a danger to kids. That is absurd.

[L-Pink]

Buck there are neighborhoods where you aren't allowed to change the design of your screen-door without permission from the homeowners association.

[Hotrocket]

Look, you need to look up the terms because you don't have a clue what they mean..

as you yourself just posted YOU are drawing a conclusion and interpreting what is said..you aren't reading the words themselves.

YOU are putting YOUR interpretation of what you THINK they mean ON WIFEY!

YOU are the one calling them that..not the neighbors, I'm sure if they felt that way they wouldn't have problem saying so...and even if they did say that, why do you think the newspaper article didn't print that? BECAUSE IT'S SLANDER AND LIBELOUS if they haven't been CONVICTED OF THAT IN A COURT OF LAW!

I'm not going to argue with you or try to make you understand you are wrong in using those terms..if you want to help them..be accurate..don't post your opinion as facts.

as I said above, look up those terms as you obviously don't understand the meanings.

Originally Posted by Hotrocket

Look, nowhere in that article does it use the words 'sex offenders or child molesters'..YOU are the one that inferring that and using those terms.

You aren't helping them doing so, YOU ARE THE ONE LABELING THEM THAT and I'm sure they don't appreciate it.
You lose any credibility by doing so and not backing it up..

I don't know why its so hard to understand.

NOBODY has been quoted as using those terms except YOU.

now stop it before you do more harm than good.

Are you an idiot? When you pass out flyers in the neighborhood that says protect your children, what do you think they mean dumbass? They want to protect their children from these bad porn people moving in. They are implying because you are in porn that you are a pedophile and the kids must be protected. If a lawyer moved in they would not pass flyers out informing the neighbors. It is scary how some people on here can be so damn stupid.

[ToplistBlog_Com]

Don't you just hate people sticking into your private business

[Hotrocket]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Dude this is GFY, get over it.

Thats an excuse to put anything you want in a thread title?

It's GFY..anything goes huh? no rules, no repurcussions, slander or defame anyone you want just because this place is called GO FUCK YOURSELF its ok?

that bullshit and you know it.

Originally Posted by Hotrocket

Look, you need to look up the terms because you don't have a clue what they mean..

as you yourself just posted YOU are drawing a conclusion and interpreting what is said..you aren't reading the words themselves.

YOU are putting YOUR interpretation of what you THINK they mean ON WIFEY!

YOU are the one calling them that..not the neighbors, I'm sure if they felt that way they wouldn't have problem saying so...and even if they did say that, why do you think the newspaper article didn't print that? BECAUSE IT'S SLANDER AND LIBELOUS if they haven't been CONVICTED OF THAT IN A COURT OF LAW!

I'm not going to argue with you or try to make you understand you are wrong in using those terms..if you want to help them..be accurate..don't post your opinion as facts.

as I said above, look up those terms as you obviously don't understand the meanings.

Dumbass the neighbors have said it. They don't want them in the neighborhood and they are trying to find ways to block it. Legally they can not stop them from movig in but they can make it an unhappy situation for them. Handing out flyers imforming the neighborhood that a porn couple is moving in and saying protect your children is implying that they have something to be worried about. It does imply that they are perverts or pedophiles. How can you not see that, are you really that blind?

Originally Posted by Hotrocket

Thats an excuse to put anything you want in a thread title?

It's GFY..anything goes huh? no rules, no repurcussions, slander or defame anyone you want just because this place is called GO FUCK YOURSELF its ok?

that bullshit and you know it.

Have you ever seen the Carlos Mencia show? He makes fun of people that are really dumb, he calls them dee dee dee's. You are a major dee dee dee. You can post anything on this forum, and one on slandered that couple. Buck is right about what they are implying by handing the flyers out. I can't except you to understand that because you have proven to be an idiot.

[Hotrocket]

jane..I understand what the people may think of someone in the porn biz..I agree with you..they probably DO think that, my point is this guy buck30 is the only one I see labeling Wifey..and doing it on a public forum..he could raise the subject just the same without using those terms.

I'm sure his intentions are good, I just think his use of those words doesnt do wifey any favors..

Originally Posted by Hotrocket

jane..I understand what the people may think of someone in the porn biz..I agree with you..they probably DO think that, my point is this guy buck30 is the only one I see labeling Wifey..and doing it on a public forum..he could raise the subject just the same without using those terms.

I'm sure his intentions are good, I just think his use of those words doesnt do wifey any favors..

He did not label her anything. I read his posts and he does not say anywhere wifey is a pedophile. He linked to an article. Then he said how he hates Scottsdale. No where on there was anything saying wifey was a perv. He is exactly right on target with what he posted. You know those flyers are sent out because they think that the children will not be safe because of what they do for a living. Like I said if it was a doctor no flyers would be sent out. Scottsdale is a town that hates anything to do with porn. They have made it clear they do not want it in their town. That is probably how that group against porn found out. I would not put it past that city to have told them. Instead of bitching at Buck you should be disgusted about the group handing out the flyers.

[L-Pink]

$458,000 for a building lot. Obviously an expensive neighborhood. I would think most parents are as concerned about loosing property value.

There is a fine line when talking about a home business.

Example. A plumbing business run from home.
Are we talking about someone answering a telephone, taking messages, setting appointments.
Or are we talking about vans with roofladders parked in the street, supplies stored in the garage, employees reporting in, etc.....

Both are home businesses. I don't want to live next to a plumbing business. I have no problem living next to a plumbing contractor.

Do these "porn" people run their business with just computer equipment or is it produced there as well?

[L-Pink]

I don't know Jane, I read the artricle twice looking for "sex offender" "child molester" and tried to find where the mother "got her kid to commit suicide"

I understand your explanition, when reading Bucks post I must be a dee dee dee also ......

[Masterchief]

The sex offender list wont mean that much anymore anyhow, it's getting diluted by so much stupid minor shit that it's already losing the meaning it once had.

[buck30]

Originally Posted by Hotrocket

Thats an excuse to put anything you want in a thread title?

It's GFY..anything goes huh? no rules, no repurcussions, slander or defame anyone you want just because this place is called GO FUCK YOURSELF its ok?

that bullshit and you know it.

ARE U FUCKING STUPID Rocket?
take this google search http://news.google.com/news?sourceid...hl=en&filter=0

and tell me what the NEWSPAPER Headline says...

"Couple pegged as 'sex offenders' over porn site"

so, the newspaper said it, not me...

[buck30]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I don't know Jane, I read the artricle twice looking for "sex offender" "child molester" and tried to find where the mother "got her kid to commit suicide"

I understand your explanition, when reading Bucks post I must be a dee dee dee also ......

Looks like pink is fucking dumb as well

take this google search http://news.google.com/news?sourceid...hl=en&filter=0
and tell me what the NEWSPAPER Headline says...

"Couple pegged as 'sex offenders' over porn site"

so, the newspaper said it, not me...

[betabomb]

that smells

[After Shock Media]

Clearly this thread is mislabeled and twists words and meanings. Honestly it would of gotten just as many views and a lot less flack attacks to the poster if he/she would of stuck to the real facts and the issues at hand.

The outrage should be focused with the fact that they are attempting to imply that pornographers are a danger to a neighborhood and to their children. Suggesting that all pornographers are in someway after peoples children.

Attempting to twist the words though to say they are being called sex offenders is no better than doing what the opposition is doing here and in many other areas. Twisting words and jumping to conclusions.

That said like it or not both sides have their rights and arguments. Pornography always stands behind the shield of the freedom of speech, and alas so is this group. They are not breaking any law, just like most of us.

What many may need to come to grips with though is that some of us are pornographers and some of us are advertisers for pornographers i.e. profiteers of porn. There is a great deal of stigma attached to it, like it or not. The opposition also are very organized unlike ourselves, and they have watchdog groups and reporting sites to monitor and keep track of many of us. The have quick link sites to turn our sites into Governing agencies, including local D.A.'s and other individuals. They also explain to people how to research the information and find who may own certain sites and the like. Also keep in mind that just because they may be bible thumping zealots, they have many technically inclined participants. They also have a great deal of funds to attack their enemies with, so buying mailing lists and infiltrating the ranks is well within their means.

It all boils down to that we chose this career path and accepted the stigma that is attached to it. You may think that nobody ever will find out, you may feel that it can remain a very hidden secret. In reality though it can and more like will eventually turn up if someone is inquisitive enough.

[QUOTE=L-Pink;11241761]I don't know Jane, I read the artricle twice looking for "sex offender" "child molester" and tried to find where the mother "got her kid to commit suicide"

I understand your explanition, when reading Bucks post I must be a dee dee dee also ......[/QUO

I just saw he just posted the link to the article that included the sex offender reference. I am not sure about the kid committing suicide thing. I did read the website link to her son, and she did say he was depressed but he was not getting counseling. I think he may mean since she knew her kid was depressed and did not get him professional mental help, she is at fault. I really do not know. I think it is sad that a kid at 12 or 13 would commit suicide. It also has nothing to do with her pegging these people as sex offenders.

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Clearly this thread is mislabeled and twists words and meanings. Honestly it would of gotten just as many views and a lot less flack attacks to the poster if he/she would of stuck to the real facts and the issues at hand.

The outrage should be focused with the fact that they are attempting to imply that pornographers are a danger to a neighborhood and to their children. Suggesting that all pornographers are in someway after peoples children.

Attempting to twist the words though to say they are being called sex offenders is no better than doing what the opposition is doing here and in many other areas. Twisting words and jumping to conclusions.

That said like it or not both sides have their rights and arguments. Pornography always stands behind the shield of the freedom of speech, and alas so is this group. They are not breaking any law, just like most of us.

What many may need to come to grips with though is that some of us are pornographers and some of us are advertisers for pornographers i.e. profiteers of porn. There is a great deal of stigma attached to it, like it or not. The opposition also are very organized unlike ourselves, and they have watchdog groups and reporting sites to monitor and keep track of many of us. The have quick link sites to turn our sites into Governing agencies, including local D.A.'s and other individuals. They also explain to people how to research the information and find who may own certain sites and the like. Also keep in mind that just because they may be bible thumping zealots, they have many technically inclined participants. They also have a great deal of funds to attack their enemies with, so buying mailing lists and infiltrating the ranks is well within their means.

It all boils down to that we chose this career path and accepted the stigma that is attached to it. You may think that nobody ever will find out, you may feel that it can remain a very hidden secret. In reality though it can and more like will eventually turn up if someone is inquisitive enough.

You are right. I was just shocked that people would assume that because you run an adult website, that you are somehow not safe around children. Buck did another link to the original article, and it does say couple pegged as sex offenders. I did chose this career path, but it is still hurtful to think that some people would assume I would be a danger to kids. I hope I never get on that groups list. My neighbors have no clue what I do.

[DWB]

I have been zoned out of an city because of what I do so I feel for them and the drama they have go through. As long as the city says it's ok, fuck everyone else!

p.s. Wifey has the most beautiful tits in the world.

[buck30]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Clearly this thread is mislabeled and twists words and meanings. Honestly it would of gotten just as many views and a lot less flack attacks to the poster if he/she would of stuck to the real facts and the issues at hand.

The outrage should be focused with the fact that they are attempting to imply that pornographers are a danger to a neighborhood and to their children. Suggesting that all pornographers are in someway after peoples children.

Attempting to twist the words though to say they are being called sex offenders is no better than doing what the opposition is doing here and in many other areas. Twisting words and jumping to conclusions.

That said like it or not both sides have their rights and arguments. Pornography always stands behind the shield of the freedom of speech, and alas so is this group. They are not breaking any law, just like most of us.

What many may need to come to grips with though is that some of us are pornographers and some of us are advertisers for pornographers i.e. profiteers of porn. There is a great deal of stigma attached to it, like it or not. The opposition also are very organized unlike ourselves, and they have watchdog groups and reporting sites to monitor and keep track of many of us. The have quick link sites to turn our sites into Governing agencies, including local D.A.'s and other individuals. They also explain to people how to research the information and find who may own certain sites and the like. Also keep in mind that just because they may be bible thumping zealots, they have many technically inclined participants. They also have a great deal of funds to attack their enemies with, so buying mailing lists and infiltrating the ranks is well within their means.

It all boils down to that we chose this career path and accepted the stigma that is attached to it. You may think that nobody ever will find out, you may feel that it can remain a very hidden secret. In reality though it can and more like will eventually turn up if someone is inquisitive enough.

"The outrage should be focused with the fact that they are attempting to imply that pornographers are a danger to a neighborhood and to their children. Suggesting that all pornographers are in someway after peoples children."


Thanks for being succinct, that is exactly what my point was, and thought it was evident. There were, however, no words twisted or mislabeling because it was all taken from the story from the arizona republic.

they were called 'sex offenders' in the headline to the story. Search any engine for 'northeast valley coalition against porn' and you shall see.

also, I guess I need to resort to making it easy for everyone so here is a with the words every one can not see.

hope that helps,

[RealityWife]

But it is not illegal to operate a Web-based adult business from a home, city staff members said.

Judy Register, manager of Citizen and Neighborhood Resources, said there was nothing Scottsdale could do.

"We cannot take any action unless there is indeed some illegal activity," she said

My Favorite Part.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by buck30

"The outrage should be focused with the fact that they are attempting to imply that pornographers are a danger to a neighborhood and to their children. Suggesting that all pornographers are in someway after peoples children."


Thanks for being succinct, that is exactly what my point was, and thought it was evident. There were, however, no words twisted or mislabeling because it was all taken from the story from the arizona republic.

they were called 'sex offenders' in the headline to the story. Search any engine for 'northeast valley coalition against porn' and you shall see.

hope that helps,

I made another post after JaneB's post, where I said I saw the link you posted and how it did say what you meant.

I went on to cover several other aspects and the reasoning why I feel we are so easily associated. A pretty damn long post that I am to damn pissed off to re post at this time. Since I fucking hit the refresh page button by accident before posting.

[C_U_Next_Tuesday]

Assuming that people dont want their children around pornographers because they think all pornogrpahers are pedophiles is silly... I say it has to do more with them not wanting their children exposed to porn or the behavior that one assumes that comes with the lifestyle...with all the fucked up sites and sick shit people do for a few bucks and a thrill..I dont rightly blame folks for feeling they way they do.

[DebsDeep]

i didnt see sex offender

[pussyluver]

If people in my neighborhood even knew I had porn on my computer, the police would be knocking at my door.

I shoot zero content.

[pussyluver]

Originally Posted by pussyluver

If people in my neighborhood even knew I had porn on my computer, the police would be knocking at my door.

I shoot zero content.

FYI - nothing illegal. no cp, animal etc.

[NemesiS876]

Originally Posted by buck30

Yeah, I have a problem with Scottdale and alll the assholes that live there. I live in tempe, but scottsdale has forced Jenna Jameson out, tried to close down her strip club, and that is just recently. The fact that they say "In order to protect your neighborhood and your children it is imperative that you take action now" since when is this a threat to children?

You seen half they fucking kids nowdays anyway? check out myspace, youtube, or just drive down the street...
these parents/concerned people need to worry about their own kids behavior instead of waste time on bashing/harassing people that are no threat.



Property Information

http://www.maricopa.gov/Assessor/Gis...?ID=133-34-059




Parcel #: 217-44-321
Property Address: 12199 E MARY KATHERINE DR
SCOTTSDALE 85259
Subdivision: VISTA BONITA
Lot #: 4
MCR #: 41416
Description: VISTA BONITA MCR 414-16
Section Township Range: 23 3N 5E
Owner Information


Owner: HIGH GLEN T/BRENDA E
In Care Of:
Mailing Address: 12199 E MARY KATHERINE DR
SCOTTSDALE AZ 85259 USA
Deed #: 051423700 (9/27/2005)
Sales Price: $1,100,000

What a fuck ??

[DBS.US]

Use a P.O.Box and have a at least one mainstream site.

[buck30]

Just say Fox affiliate news at 9 tonight, their TOP STORY was about wifeysworld, and the live reporter held up a flyer that was sent, and the owners are presented in black and white MUGSHOT style photos, to look out for these people in the neighborhood.

I am trying to get video to link, but the affiliates website myfoxphoenix.com does not yet have the video story up.

Ill check back
this flyer is more inflamatory, and inciteful that the the newspaper story.

Of course this is ontop of an announcement last week that a Hustler Hollywood store would be opening up in neighboring Tempe, in a business district caused 5/6 people interviewed on the street saying they shouldn't build there.

[Kimo]

so are they sex offenders or not?

[lucky1]

Originally Posted by RealityWife

But it is not illegal to operate a Web-based adult business from a home, city staff members said.

Judy Register, manager of Citizen and Neighborhood Resources, said there was nothing Scottsdale could do.

"We cannot take any action unless there is indeed some illegal activity," she said

My Favorite Part.

Mine too.

[buck30]

Just watch the video of the TOP news story tonight in Phoenix

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/myfox/pa...Y&pageId=1.1.1

Get a look at the Mugshots they made of the owners of wifeysworld.

you may have to stomach a Geraldo promo though

[MaddCaz]

bullshaht

[BusterBunny]

50.............