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View Poll Results: Will will76 End Up Getting Sued By LegendaryLars and/or Zango?
Yes he'll eventually cross the line and get owned! 15 15.00%
Yes it'll be like a cat playing with a mouse before ripping its head off! 4 4.00%
No will76 is too insignificant for them to fuck with! 9 9.00%
No will76 is right fuck LegendaryLars and Zango 67 67.00%
will76 is my lord and savior I would come to his defense! 5 5.00%
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Old 11-13-2006, 12:54 PM   #1
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Will will76 End Up Getting Sued By LegendaryLars and/or Zango?

What ya'll think?
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Old 11-13-2006, 12:55 PM   #2
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or maybe they'll get sued by him....
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it'd be a bigger mistake then what they are already doing
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not sure, it will be interesting to see.
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not sure, it will be interesting to see.
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Old 11-13-2006, 12:58 PM   #7
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I don't think you can get sued for telling the truth but usa may have different laws than here
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neither because it would mean some exposure on the issue and i doubt anyone really wants that..

If it did he would prob lose in the end just by sheer numbers and there isnt really a way to "win" against a company when your an individual..

If everyone sued zango today they would just pull an ibill , im sure they already have a whole "backup" company all ready to slip into once the feds come knocking again.. everyone will just be an "employee" and some new company called "pango" would start up.
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Wouldnt that give Will a chance to prove his point and look at all there shit with a fine tooth comb?
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:08 PM   #13
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I'm praying for it.

and if i ever get owned one day, I will make Jimmie year. I could hear him now. I bin waitin for dis my whoooles life, to finaly see wil76 get owned. eyes so happy, my life complete.
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:13 PM   #14
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What ya'll think?
Here is my take. Anyone can sue anyone for any reason. So sure I could be sued. Hell you could probably be sued for starting this thread.

We know Lars is a pussy and wont sue anyone even when they infringe on his copyrights. I wouldn't be surprised if Zango tired although I think it would be a very bad PR move on their part.

I make sure to watch what I say. Everything I say has either been said several times by others or is common knowledge, whether either company wants to believe it or not.

For example. AFF steals traffic and sales using Zango. This is true. AFF prefers to call it " unavoidable adware collisions". The rest of the world calls it stealing. MY traffic clicks a link on MY site to go to MY Sponsors and AFF pops up over it and "STEALS" my traffic. I feel confident I can explain that in court and show my videos to prove it.
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i hope not, will is doing a good thing
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:15 PM   #16
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:16 PM   #17
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Wouldnt that give Will a chance to prove his point and look at all there shit with a fine tooth comb?

If I did get national media exposure I would make sure to milk every second of it to expose them.
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:18 PM   #18
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lol that made me laugh it is sad but true in some cases.
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:19 PM   #19
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Yes. Will76 is right and will get sued.

Right or wrong he is destroying Lar's character, which is his business. He can sue for defemation of character and he would win.
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For those of you who think i will eventually cross the line and get owned. You obviously don't know me and you give the other parties involved too much credit. They keep screwing up and giving me more to post about. I could copy and paste all day and never say a word, just let them do their own damage.
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Yes. Will76 is right and will get sued.

Right or wrong he is destroying Lar's character, which is his business. He can sue for defemation of character and he would win.
Lar's is destroying his own character. He is in bed with Zango, I didn't make him do it, fuck i am trying to stop him from doing it. I didn't make Zango a bad company that everyone hates either. I didn't create their programming that allows companies like AFF to use it to take sales and traffic away from me.

yes i could be sued, but in defimation he has to proved how what I said is not true.

Find one thing I have said about lars that is not true. Not only is what i am sayin the truth, LArs has admitted to everything I have said.

That's like saying Ibill can sue us for destroying their character because they kept all of our money and we posted that they were thieves.
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Old 11-13-2006, 02:04 PM   #22
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If AFF isn't even willing to sue Zango to protect it's copyright because it would cost too much money why would they spend money to sue Will?

Will speaks the truth and should continue to do so.
Lars also speaks the truth, but for the good of his company he should probably just remain silent.

I stopped promoting AFF after I heard Lars respond to the zango comments, not after Will's original comments.
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Yes. Will76 is right and will get sued.

Right or wrong he is destroying Lar's character, which is his business. He can sue for defemation of character and he would win.
He can sue but he wont win, defamation of character only works if it isnt true but it is in this case.
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Old 11-13-2006, 04:04 PM   #25
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Fuck all the stealing scum in this industry to hell.

Fuck zango and Fuck Lars
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Old 11-13-2006, 04:23 PM   #26
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No way will they sue, those companies do not want to show whats in the rabbit hole.

Alot of Company documents would have to be released in court as evidence.

Zango already paid a fine to the FCC which is basically an admitted fault.

Hell, with good lawyers Will76 will counter sue and possibly win.
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I seriously doubt it. The more that companies like Zango step into the light the more their pale skin gets burned. They would much rather stay in the dark.
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Personally, with good lawyers on both ends, I don't think they'd have much of a case against Will. Most of the stuff he has posted is the truth, and has been backed by Lars who had a reason for it. Still, if you want someone to shut up, suing the fuck out of them is often times a great way to scare them, even if you have no intentions of following through.

I just don't think they care. Out of all the money AFF makes, does a few threads on a message board really cut into their bottom line? I'd guess that 99% of AFF affiliates don't have a clue what Zango is. The other % that does, probably makes enough money on them that they don't care.

Although I agree with Will on the issue, all the threads won't change much. Webmasters see one thing, money. If AFF makes them more money than the next company, they will use AFF.

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LOL, yeah,,, right.. & let all their skeletons out of the closet & put their lowlife ethics under scrutiny by the system.. I don't think so.
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I don't know but he definitly did some serious damage to Legendary Lars.
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i really dont think any affiliate company in this entire fucked up industry wants to find themselves being deposed by agressive attorneys. first defense is to destroy their credibility... thats gonna open a pandoras box of nasty shit. thats whats kinda funny about the whole thing.
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LegendaryLars would have no case against Will - he admitted what he's doing and Will along with thousands of other webmasters know it's a shitty thing and Will can call him out on it all he wants. In a libel or slander suit the best defense is that you are telling the truth - it's not the only issue but i will bet there's never been a successful libel or slander case where the alleged defamation was shown to be substantially true.
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Lars and Co. have proven to be less than agressive in protecting their own interests and those of their affiliates, and so far I haven't seen Will say anything that couldn't be supported by what can be seen by normal means.

the cams/aff comments and "official statements" on the Zango issue have been very, umm, light weight, and the reactions to any of the post presenting other sites being popped over their sites or affecting affiliates has been about nil. In a vacuum of official information, others will speculate based on what is seen and what is happening on the playing field.

Unless there is something that will has specifically said that is not true based on the information known at that time, there isn't much to work with.
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Let me add this: If everything that has been alledged in in fact true (and would have to be stated for the record in court) cams / AFF might open themselves up for other legal actions if their actions were somehow in violation of their affiliate agreement or any laws that govern affiliate arrangements. I don't think Lars would like all of their dealings with Zango put on the public record.
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If someome is stealing from you ... sue/press charges.

Criminal conversion, theft by deception, etc. ........... the laws are there.

Or you could continue to ask them to please stop. (I don't think that's working)
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Let me add this: If everything that has been alledged in in fact true (and would have to be stated for the record in court) cams / AFF might open themselves up for other legal actions if their actions were somehow in violation of their affiliate agreement or any laws that govern affiliate arrangements. I don't think Lars would like all of their dealings with Zango put on the public record.
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Well this poll is turning into a landslide...........
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:29 PM   #41
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Let me add this: If everything that has been alledged in in fact true (and would have to be stated for the record in court) cams / AFF might open themselves up for other legal actions if their actions were somehow in violation of their affiliate agreement or any laws that govern affiliate arrangements. I don't think Lars would like all of their dealings with Zango put on the public record.

Yeap like how much money they made from Zango. I would love for that info to come public. Because every penny they made using Zango is money out of ALL Of your pockets.
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i highly doubt it, they are in the business of being discreet. I commend what will76 did but zango/aff would not want anymore exposure a lawsuit would bring them
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i understand that you hate will. thats fine.

however, does that mean you also support zango and what AFF, and countless other programs are doing?
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Lar's is destroying his own character. He is in bed with Zango, I didn't make him do it, fuck i am trying to stop him from doing it. I didn't make Zango a bad company that everyone hates either. I didn't create their programming that allows companies like AFF to use it to take sales and traffic away from me.

yes i could be sued, but in defimation he has to proved how what I said is not true.

Find one thing I have said about lars that is not true. Not only is what i am sayin the truth, LArs has admitted to everything I have said.

That's like saying Ibill can sue us for destroying their character because they kept all of our money and we posted that they were thieves.
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LegendaryLars would have no case against Will - he admitted what he's doing and Will along with thousands of other webmasters know it's a shitty thing and Will can call him out on it all he wants. In a libel or slander suit the best defense is that you are telling the truth - it's not the only issue but i will bet there's never been a successful libel or slander case where the alleged defamation was shown to be substantially true.
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Discovery uncovers everything.
Exactly! Put it this way..they have stated that they will continue to steal from affiliates in this fashion. Does anyone really think this is the ONLY method they're willing to use to steal from affiliates? Does anyone really think they want forensic investigators going through their systems with a fine-toothed comb?

Not in a million years.
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Old 11-13-2006, 07:54 PM   #47
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sue zango instead
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All that said, I still think all the other programs pulling the same shit must be breathing a sigh of relief that lars is taking 95% of the heat on this issue.
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or maybe they'll get sued by him....
Hmmmm interesting
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All that said, I still think all the other programs pulling the same shit must be breathing a sigh of relief that lars is taking 95% of the heat on this issue.
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