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Tempest · 11-27-2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Honestly I thought you were just playing Devil's Advocate, but apparently you're serious.

I'm serious about the mods applying the rules fairly, especially TD who has a habit of banning at the drop of a hat.

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Originally Posted by Peaches

If I was "defending my pedo ventures", that clearly implies that I have pedo ventures. Everyone else here sees that.

There was no reason to wait for "proof". There isn't any. I've been accused of a LOT of things in 10 years. Being involved in "pedo ventures" has NEVER been one of them - on this board, any other board, in person, on ICQ, ever. So obviously I never had an opportunity to defend them, as Lee stated.

Your word against his, and we won't hear his now. But once again, for the third or fourth time. Accusing someone of being involved in pedo "ventures" is NOT grounds for immediate banning as stated in the rules.

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Originally Posted by Peaches

And as I said before, he should have been banned months ago. Actually he shouldn't have ever been unbanned - the only reason he unbanned was because he kissed Juicy. Very businesslike, lol.

And thus you don't care whether or not the rules were followed, just that he's gone. Therefore, anything you have to say about it really holds no weight. I have ZERO stake in you or him and so can look at it objectively.

I know nothing about what Lee may or may not have done in the past, nor whether he should or should not have been banned before or been allowed to come back... but the reality is that the baord allows people to come back ALL THE TIME. Take pimpdog as an example if you want. The entire "banning" thing on this board is a joke.

Peaches · 11-27-2006, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

I am sure the owners and mods are allowed their own judgment calls. That was clearly suggesting she was involved with pedo stuff which in this industry mine aswell mean you are a pedo. That is clearly rubbish and anyone who knows Peaches and her recent 'fights' knows that too.

Yeah, I think I'm the only person whose been banned from a board for being asked to back up my statements and then backing them up

Tempest · 11-27-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I have to ask, is English your native language because if it is you are in serious trouble. If not, I will excuse your inability to comprehend.

I'm sorry. Were you attempting to show me where he broke the rules like I said you should if you actually had something to say to me on the matter? Oh.. I guess not and so you're just talking out your ass as usual because you lack the intelligence to discuss something with any substance.

Peaches · 11-27-2006, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

The entire "banning" thing on this board is a joke.

As well as any other board - adult or mainstream.

Lee's the only person I've ever asked to be banned - moreso about what he did and said about my son and his stealing an email list more than this. Like I said originally, this was just icing on the cake.

I'm sure he'll be back again.

CDSmith · 11-27-2006, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

2. Refferring to them as a Pedo
Did he do that?? No.

Actually the answer is yes. By implication. It's painfully obvious in his rather smartassy remark to Peaches that he is implying she has some sort of involvement in pedo activity, or at least it is obvious to everyone but you.

You've said quite a few things on this board in the past that I have wholeheartedly agreed with, but on this point you're pushing you are way out to lunch in my opinion.

TD did the right thing in banning Lee. Period. The board looks a lot cleaner today with him gone. It even smells fresher in here. :D

baddog · 11-27-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

I'm sorry. Were you attempting to show me where he broke the rules like I said you should if you actually had something to say to me on the matter? Oh.. I guess not and so you're just talking out your ass as usual because you lack the intelligence to discuss something with any substance.

So I guess I should presume that you do understand English.

Lee made a comment that implied and/or insinuated that Peaches was involved with pedo activitites. If he did not want to get banned he should have folllowed up in the exact same post his proof/evidence of such. He should not have to be asked to come back and lay the foundations of that accusation.

Get it?

If I say you are involved in pedo activities, I had better back it up then and there, not come back at some later point in time to substantiate it.

s9ann0 · 11-27-2006, 10:39 AM

I called the guys that run a those teens with braces type sites a bunch of pedos a while back and I didn't get banned

Tempest · 11-27-2006, 10:40 AM

CDSmith:

I have yet to see anyone explain to me how saying someone is involved with pedo ventures is the same as refering to them AS a pedo, i.e. that they ARE a pedo. The language is pretty clear unless you read into it what you want to. In one case they're involved with pedo related things which doesn't mean they are one. In the other case they are one. IMO the rules should be tightened up since it leaves ambiguities and "loopholes" for some asswipes to use.

As for this "You've said quite a few things on this board in the past that I have wholeheartedly agreed with, but on this point you're pushing you are way out to lunch in my opinion." he he he.. I remember saying the same thing to you awhile ago about something you were going off about. The nice thing about you is that I know we can have an decent discussion about it and not really take it personally.

baddog:

Yeah nice one.. What you're saying has nothing to do with what I'm talking about or the link you posted that I was supposed to go look at again. Given your previous posts to me, I suspect you re-read something I said and pulled that statement from there.

CDSmith & baddog:

In this post I said the same thing as the two of you.. For making a serious accusation and then not backing it up, he should be banned.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...3&postcount=46

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Having said all that, I would say that Lee did make a serious accusation, and the rules DO say you have to provide proof or you could be banned. He wasn't given the chance to post proof. If it was me, I would much rather he be given the chance so that it's shown he was just making a false accusation and then get banned.

I didn't see any other posts from him, so no chance to post his proof. You could argue he had enough time etc. etc. etc but there is no stimpulation as to how much time one has and in this case, it really doesn't matter because that WASN'T was he was banned for...

This thread shows what he was banned for:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...2&postcount=19

So if you want to discuss this with me, stick to the point I'm making. That he did not break the rules that he was banned for. But since you want him gone, you could never agree with me even if you ended up seeing that I'm right.

GonZo · 11-27-2006, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

Somtimes I don't know whether you're truly stupid or just act that way to create an argument in order to get your postcount up...

I think most of us stopped reading here from laughing too hard.
Im certain Peaches could give a shit less about postcount.
I think it was Mr Iz that was saying how post count mattered a few years ago.

Whats he doing now?

AdultInsider Cloner · 11-27-2006, 11:05 AM

peace and love has returned to GFY :D

baddog · 11-27-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

CDSmith:

I have yet to see anyone explain to me how saying someone is involved with pedo ventures is the same as refering to them AS a pedo, i.e. that they ARE a pedo. The language is pretty clear unless you read into it what you want to. In one case they're involved with pedo related things which doesn't mean they are one. In the other case they are one. IMO the rules should be tightened up since it leaves ambiguities and "loopholes" for some asswipes to use.

As for this "You've said quite a few things on this board in the past that I have wholeheartedly agreed with, but on this point you're pushing you are way out to lunch in my opinion." he he he.. I remember saying the same thing to you awhile ago about something you were going off about. The nice thing about you is that I know we can have an decent discussion about it and not really take it personally.

baddog:

Yeah nice one.. What you're saying has nothing to do with what I'm talking about or the link you posted that I was supposed to go look at again. Given your previous posts to me, I suspect you re-read something I said and pulled that statement from there.

CDSmith & baddog:

In this post I said the same thing as the two of you.. For making a serious accusation and then not backing it up, he should be banned.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...3&postcount=46

I didn't see any other posts from him, so no chance to post his proof. You could argue he had enough time etc. etc. etc but there is no stimpulation as to how much time one has and in this case, it really doesn't matter because that WASN'T was he was banned for...

This thread shows what he was banned for:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...2&postcount=19

So if you want to discuss this with me, stick to the point I'm making. That he did not break the rules that he was banned for. But since you want him gone, you could never agree with me even if you ended up seeing that I'm right.

Why are you the only one that doesn't seem to understand that insinuating and accusing are the same thing?

Why is it that GFY needs to write the rules to cover every possible scenario for you to get it?

Is it possible that you are that ignorant, or is it that you just have a grudge against TD for something that happened in the past?

I am guessing the latter.

Sarah_Jayne · 11-27-2006, 12:17 PM

okay..so selling KP doesn't mean you are sexually attracted to kids. However, the suggestion of somebody selling it and such 'ventures' is a suggestion that should not be permitted.

Tempest · 11-27-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Why are you the only one that doesn't seem to understand that insinuating and accusing are the same thing?

Why is it that GFY needs to write the rules to cover every possible scenario for you to get it?

Is it possible that you are that ignorant, or is it that you just have a grudge against TD for something that happened in the past?

I am guessing the latter.

Actually. I'm the only one that couldn't care less if he's gone or not.. Every person arguing with me about this wanted him gone.. Seems like you are seeing what you want to see because you want him gone.

You also seem to have a real problem with comprehension. He did not insinuate OR accuse her of being a pedo. What he said was very clear. You're not the one that's getting it. Like I said, because you don't want to.

sarah_webinc appears to get it.

As far as TD.. He's the one that does most of the bannings. So you can ASSume I have a grudge against him. But my issue is that I want to see people banned "fairly" around here, or at least banned for the rules they do break and not the ones they didn't. There are some people on this board that we all know should be banned but they seem to get a free pass all the time and that pisses me off.

Besides.. why do you even care? If my ranting actually got some rules fixed up and better enforced, what's wrong with that?

MicroChick · 11-28-2006, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Honestly I thought you were just playing Devil's Advocate, but apparently you're serious.

If I was "defending my pedo ventures", that clearly implies that I have pedo ventures. Everyone else here sees that.

There was no reason to wait for "proof". There isn't any. I've been accused of a LOT of things in 10 years. Being involved in "pedo ventures" has NEVER been one of them - on this board, any other board, in person, on ICQ, ever. So obviously I never had an opportunity to defend them, as Lee stated.

And as I said before, he should have been banned months ago. Actually he shouldn't have ever been unbanned - the only reason he unbanned was because he kissed Juicy. Very businesslike, lol.

Peaches, should you be unbanned at J-B-M?

Banning is a harsh act. Lee seems to be able to talk his way out of bannishment, so why bother? He has been accused of many things which I do not believe have been proven. I want to see the proof, and not Gonzo's accusation before I believe he is guilty.

MicroChick · 11-28-2006, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MicroChick

Peaches, should you be unbanned at J-B-M?

Banning is a harsh act. Lee seems to be able to talk his way out of bannishment, so why bother? He has been accused of many things which I do not believe have been proven. I want to see the proof, and not Gonzo's accusation before I believe he is guilty.

I'm not referring to the *PEDO* comments which were out of line. I am referring to Gonzo accusing Lee of stealing an email database. Gonzo has no credibility, and O prano is not long for the pornboard world. It is a shrinking slimey piece of shit board.

Jace · 11-28-2006, 01:20 AM

wow, I never actually thought I would see the day that someone stood up for European Lee

so, by tempest's definition, since I am only involved "involved" with a group of people sitting at a table in a restaurant, if I don't eat, I am not actually a diner?

or wait, here is another one

since I am "involved" with my porn websites, but I never need to update them anymore because they are automated, I am not actually a webmaster

tony286 · 11-28-2006, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

wow, I never actually thought I would see the day that someone stood up for European Lee

so, by tempest's definition, since I am only involved "involved" with a group of people sitting at a table in a restaurant, if I don't eat, I am not actually a diner?

or wait, here is another one

since I am "involved" with my porn websites, but I never need to update them anymore because they are automated, I am not actually a webmaster

no it would be more like if you sold gay porn doesnt mean you are gay

12clicks · 11-28-2006, 09:47 AM

someone should tell the owner of that board to remove the "last post by" info so people stumbling by wouldn't be able to tell just how dead it is.

Anthony · 11-28-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

someone should tell the owner of that board to remove the "last post by" info so people stumbling by wouldn't be able to tell just how dead it is.

You just did.

Just par for the course, Ron.

AmateurWealth · 11-28-2006, 10:00 AM

more useless ramblings by tempest.....sticking up for Lee....thats a riot.

12clicks · 11-28-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

You just did.

Just par for the course, Ron.

maybe they don't understand the admin area.

Anthony · 11-28-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

maybe they don't understand the admin area.

Oh come on now Ron, that place is the new mecca for business on the web.

Peaches · 11-28-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MicroChick

Peaches, should you be unbanned at J-B-M?

Banning is a harsh act. Lee seems to be able to talk his way out of bannishment, so why bother? He has been accused of many things which I do not believe have been proven. I want to see the proof, and not Gonzo's accusation before I believe he is guilty.

It wouldn't matter to me if I was unbanned at JBM or not - I wouldn't post there any more. If you got my email, you know why

Brad and Chris made a VERY bad business decision. Not in regards to me, but they allowed WEG and 12Clicks to become 800 pound gorillas and every other sponsor there have the ability to be the same. I posted truth and backed it up when asked to - several times. That didn't make Cory or Ron very happy and they pulled advertising. Brad and Chris have now let every advertiser know that they (the advertiser) can censor the board when things aren't going their way. But it's their board

Gonzo isn't the one who told me about Lee hacking in - several others did. It was pretty obvious when my dead son received the spam from Lee and Oprano was the ONLY board he had EVER signed up. It was 100% obvious to me that Lee stole that database and someone completely outside of Oprano, whom I also trust, let me know the content wasn't even 2257 compliant.

Lee also said things about Gary Alan which if false, are horrendous that he's said them, and if true, even moreso.

Wiggles · 11-28-2006, 12:35 PM

haha sweet european lee got banned quick

12clicks · 11-28-2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Oh come on now Ron, that place is the new mecca for business on the web.

and the landing pad for people banned from real boards.

$tandaman · 11-28-2006, 01:02 PM

rip lee...
about fucking time!

MicroChick · 11-28-2006, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

It wouldn't matter to me if I was unbanned at JBM or not - I wouldn't post there any more. If you got my email, you know why

Gonzo isn't the one who told me about Lee hacking in - several others did.

I didn't receive any email regarding the incident. You are missed by many, especially the pug owners.

I don't know anything about European Lee except for what Gonzo posted many months ago. I know from past experiences that owners of O prano, past and present, are relentless when they decide they don't like you. Many lies and hate have been spread by Gonzo, and he damn well knows it. He wanted his 15 minutes of fame so much that he left his ethics in a black hole...never to be found again.

I know Gonzo is a friend of yours, Peaches, but I also speak the truth about him. Associating with hackers can be a big mistake if you don't check all the facts. Hackers do not know what the word *trust* means.

Peaches · 11-28-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MicroChick

I didn't receive any email regarding the incident.

Send me an email at peaches at onlinebeach dot com

I've sent you at least two emails over the last year - hope you got at least one of them........

BitAudioVideo · 11-28-2006, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

I'm serious about the mods applying the rules fairly, especially TD who has a habit of banning at the drop of a hat ...<snip>... NOT grounds for immediate banning as stated in the rules.

rules were meant to be broken.

seems to me that lee pushed the limit of the rule, he was tactfull in how he expressed the 'pedo' comment to stay just inside the specific rule.. in a court of law this wouldnt stand up but we arent in a democracy or courtroom.

maybe TD also skirted the line with what is a justified ban and what is a questionable ban.... so what... hopefully he will push the limits some more and ban some other asshats on technicalities.

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	okay..so selling KP doesn't mean you are sexually attracted to kids. However, the suggestion of somebody selling it and such 'ventures' is a suggestion that should not be permitted.

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Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	wow, I never actually thought I would see the day that someone stood up for European Lee so, by tempest's definition, since I am only involved "involved" with a group of people sitting at a table in a restaurant, if I don't eat, I am not actually a diner? or wait, here is another one since I am "involved" with my porn websites, but I never need to update them anymore because they are automated, I am not actually a webmaster