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Old 12-01-2006, 01:29 PM   #101
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:38 PM   #102
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:44 PM   #103
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God what the fuck is it with nelly ass drama queens and their bids? It's been an hour, ooooh an hour!

I sent out some ICQs to ask around about you, was about to make lunch, and was going to get in touch with you after.

If you can't wait an hour before having an emotional breakdown over it, I'm sorry.

You have no sig, you're from no company, you haven't made that many posts on here, and I don't know who you are. So, as I said before, was going to check around to make sure it was a valid bid so that things were fair to other bidders.

I think most people would understand that given the circumstances, and as I said above the delay was nothing against you personally. I've done similar things with other people in other auctions that I've held.

By withdrawing your bid I guess you just saved me that work.

Have a nice day.
What a piece of work this "fag" is. Jason, too bad you didn't go to some parties and buy people drinks, then I am sure you would have been preproved for the bidding.

BoyAlley, how many people do you "know" on here, honestly. So the guy doesn't represent a company. So fucking what. Most people here don't work for a company. Not everyone donates for the publicity.

Unbelievable, he is trying to donate money and you need to check the guy's "popularity" first. It's not like he just made a GFY nick and is posting for the first time. So what if you would have asked some people and they didn't know him, you wouldn't accept his offer.

The other thing, if a high bidder defaults then you take the second place bidder, whats the big deal?

I keep thinking you are doing something good here but you seem to be acting like a prick in the process.
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:45 PM   #104
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:46 PM   #105
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Holy shit, nice response BoyAlley. I can see where Epic was coming from with the drama a month ago, you're really fucking unprofessional!
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:47 PM   #106
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Hey Jason, I'm going to have to contact you and find a way to verify these funds, since you're not bidding from a company.

No offense towards you at ALL, but I have to make sure the bidding remains fair for everyone involved.

I hope you and everyone else understands.
hey dumb ass his icq is in his sig, instead of posting you were going to have to contact him, why didn't you just contact him first.

It seems like you are trying to stir drama here. All of this could have been avoided.
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What a piece of work this "fag" is. Jason, too bad you didn't go to some parties and buy people drinks, then I am sure you would have been preproved for the bidding.

BoyAlley, how many people do you "know" on here, honestly. So the guy doesn't represent a company. So fucking what. Most people here don't work for a company. Not everyone donates for the publicity.
Hey, all I said is that I needed a little bit of time to verify the bid. If he takes offense to that and backs out, or if anyone else that's not from a well known company takes offense to that, then they can find other ways to donate to whatever cause makes them happy.

My intentions were ONLY to make sure that bidding was fair for all parties involved, and I made that very clear from the beginning.

He is not the only one that bid in this auction that I checked into first, by the way.
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hey dumb ass his icq is in his sig, instead of posting you were going to have to contact him, why didn't you just contact him first.
Because I wanted people to know why there was going to be a delay listing his bid?
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Because I wanted people to know why there was going to be a delay listing his bid?
who you kiddin, this isn't CNN with a ticker on the bottom of everyone's computer notifying everyone that a new bid was made and there was a hold on the bid.

How many people check this thread every couple mins muchless every hour. You make it sound like if you didn't reply for a couple hours people would be going mad wondering why. Not to mention if you would have contacted him through icq instead of posting it I bet he would have been a lot more rececptive to your inquiry. Would have taken you less time to contact him through icq then making that post.

You are an attention whore. Just as you went on attack against me for no reason but attention. No different then JTF or DJ, god forbid you guys are not the center of attention. Too bad your drama is fucking up trying to do a good thing here.
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Believe it or not he's still made no attempt to contact me via ICQ or thank me for the offer of my $1000-straight-up donation. So he can go fuck himself. I'll tack it on to my monthly donation to SickKids, and I suggest everyone consider donating to them because they really need the money and put it to good use.

https://www.sickkidsfoundation.com/

This is obviously a drama-mama we're dealing with here.
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Old 12-01-2006, 02:12 PM   #111
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Holy shit, nice response BoyAlley. I can see where Epic was coming from with the drama a month ago, you're really fucking unprofessional!

lol, you where his ally a bit ago helping him destroy my company.....

I bid and donated, got ignored and when I spoke up the attacks started!

Now you know why I attacked back.... But I will agree with you 100% about the aids joke, it was way out of line and very disresectful to the poor people that have it... I am sorry for offending you!
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Not everyone donates for the publicity..
Thanks for letting everyone know, my donation and bid was not for the attention that is for sure.....


I was perpared to bid quite high, I am a ex drug dealer you know that can't spend my money on much with out getting into trouble, but I can donate the fuck out of it.......


www.one.org gets alot of my money,

I am also in the middle of a mainstream project that all non profit all funds going to one.org www.planetclark.com






But I am just a piece of shit like BA says!
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Old 12-01-2006, 02:27 PM   #114
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What a piece of work this "fag" is. Jason, too bad you didn't go to some parties and buy people drinks, then I am sure you would have been preproved for the bidding.

BoyAlley, how many people do you "know" on here, honestly. So the guy doesn't represent a company. So fucking what. Most people here don't work for a company. Not everyone donates for the publicity.

Unbelievable, he is trying to donate money and you need to check the guy's "popularity" first. It's not like he just made a GFY nick and is posting for the first time. So what if you would have asked some people and they didn't know him, you wouldn't accept his offer.

The other thing, if a high bidder defaults then you take the second place bidder, whats the big deal?

I keep thinking you are doing something good here but you seem to be acting like a prick in the process.
It is not about the cause, it is about the attention only, he said it in one of the hate threads......
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Jasonir...It was very generous of you to put up the 5K offer and subsequent 1k donation whether or not you win the auction. But, do you really think it's unreasonable that BoyAlley wanted to make a verification? You've been around a long time but so have many others who may or may not have a pot to piss in. He said no offense at the outset; please try to keep the thread in the spirit it was intended.

Will....dude. You need a hobby. Has your Zango crusade driven you so batty that you need to attack starters of charity threads?

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Old 12-01-2006, 02:42 PM   #121
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Interesting to see how BoyAlley comes off as an ass in this thread while trying to do something good.. But then again, given he tends to only create drama threads, it's more likely he's only doing it to make the sheep think he's an awesome guy and to promote his shit. Nothing like using the less fortunate for your own purposes.
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It's all part of the Gay Agenda! Muahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

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No good deed goes unpunished.

Jasonir...It was very generous of you to put up the 5K offer and subsequent 1k donation whether or not you win the auction. But, do you really think it's unreasonable that BoyAlley wanted to make a verification? You've been around a long time but so have many others who may or may not have a pot to piss in. He said no offense at the outset; please try to keep the thread in the spirit it was intended.

Will....dude. You need a hobby. Has your Zango crusade driven you so batty that you need to attack starters of charity threads?

P.S. Sorry, Mark. 5K ;)
So you have nothing better to do then defend pricks? So because someone starts a sig auction thread for charity you must be top notch and make you a good person. This piece of shit attacked me for no other reason then to get attention.

I love the way you word things, basically I am a bored idiot with nothing better to do then to attack mother teresa here, lol. please.
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Interesting to see how BoyAlley comes off as an ass in this thread while trying to do something good.. But then again, given he tends to only create drama threads, it's more likely he's only doing it to make the sheep think he's an awesome guy and to promote his shit. Nothing like using the less fortunate for your own purposes.
This is very true. What he is doing is obviously more then what most people do (which is nothing). But what exactly is he doing here. If I read it right he is not donating any of the money himself. He is donating his sig. Anyone of us could start a sig auction and donate the money. Maybe I will, it's not a bad idea. But simply taking 10 mins to do this shouldn't make you a top notch " do no wrong" guy in the eyes of everyone here. I would hope creditibility and good business ethics would be come from more then just doing something like starting an auction. But then again the mentality here is buy someone a drink and bullshit with them for 10 mins and you are top notch.
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Honestly I'd be happier to see someone bid on their own behalf that an employee bidding their company's money. BoyAlley, I think you should reconsider your stance on accepting bids from companies and holding off on "knowing" an individual. As others have stated, at the very worst, you just take the next lowest bid if someone flakes.

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Honestly I'd be happier to see someone bid on their own behalf that an employee bidding their company's money. BoyAlley, I think you should reconsider your stance on accepting bids from companies and holding off on "knowing" an individual. As others have stated, at the very worst, you just take the next lowest bid if someone flakes.

JMHO.
I am happy to take bids from anyone once I'm comfortable knowing that the bid is legitimate, and that the person has the means to make good once the auction is over.

The history of my auctions has shown that companies are willing to step up to the plate and make some hefty bids and donations.

From my experience raising money in mainstream, I know those types of bids will dry up very quickly if companies feel that they're being forced to bid against people that have no ability or intention of actually making payment.

Of COURSE I want the bidding to go as high as possible, but at the same time, I don't want the bidding being incremented in a manner that's unfair to those actually willing and able to make final payment.

Again, I am in NO way speaking badly about jasonir, as I've said before. However, given all of the circumstances, I wanted time to look into things before accepting the bid. That's something he wasn't willing to provide.
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OK, that's cool Because some day I might bid and I'm just lil' ol me and I ain't got nothin' to promote - but I can pay the bill
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I am happy to take bids from anyone once I'm comfortable knowing that the bid is legitimate, and that the person has the means to make good once the auction is over.

The history of my auctions has shown that companies are willing to step up to the plate and make some hefty bids and donations.

From my experience raising money in mainstream, I know those types of bids will dry up very quickly if companies feel that they're being forced to bid against people that have no ability or intention of actually making payment.

Of COURSE I want the bidding to go as high as possible, but at the same time, I don't want the bidding being incremented in a manner that's unfair to those actually willing and able to make final payment.

Again, I am in NO way speaking badly about jasonir, as I've said before. However, given all of the circumstances, I wanted time to look into things before accepting the bid. That's something he wasn't willing to provide.

You are totally clueless.
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I know those types of bids will dry up very quickly if companies feel that they're being forced to bid against people that have no ability or intention of actually making payment.
it's for charity. They are not doing this for personal gain, to make money etc... It's not like they are bidding on a new TV or something. it is CHARITY! no one is forcing them to bid. If a company wants to donate 5K they will bid up to 5K then stop. If someone bids more, and no one else beats him, and he defaults then I am sure the person who bid 5K would still be happy to make that donation.

Do you understand this?

Also, how are you going to "verify" they have the funds, do people need to send you a copy of their bank statement. How do you truely verify this? ICQ 10 friends and ask them if they heard of the bidder and how many drinks he bought people at parties
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You are totally clueless.

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Do you understand this?
I honestly couldn't give two cummy shits less if you agree with how I'm running my auction or not. If you run your own auction someday, you can run it using your own judgment.

I've raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for various organizations over the years, and am very comfortable that I have a pretty good understanding of what makes a charity drive successful or not.

I stand by my assessment of what bidder's reactions would be when they find themselves bidding against someone who's ability to pay they question.

That's how it's going to be, whether you like it or not. End of story.

Why don't you go back to doing what you're good at, bitching about Zango. Goodness knows you've made huge strides on that front.
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Why don't you go back to doing what you're good at, bitching about Zango. Goodness knows you've made huge strides on that front. [/B][/COLOR]
I'm just taking a page out of your book and sticking my nose in someone else's business, talking out of my ass, and trying to make a fool of myself.

I'll buy everyone some drinks at the next show and I will be top notch again soon.
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Drama is over, off BA's back Please!

We have all proved we are at least a little bit of an idiot at one point or another....

Again, Drama is over lets get this auction back on track!
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Old 12-01-2006, 10:11 PM   #137
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Drama is over, off BA's back Please!

We have all proved we are at least a little bit of an idiot at one point or another....

Again, Drama is over lets get this auction back on track!
We are all looking forward to seeing a family's life changed!
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This month's auction: Create a holiday miracle.


A family will be chosen after we see how much this auction raises, and find out just how much good we'll be able to do. It could be a battered woman who's finally left her husband and is trying to take care of herself and her children. Or maybe a family that lost everything in a Hurricane.

Can we provide daycare for a year so a single mother can go to work without worrying about her children? Can we get her a car to go back and forth to work in? Can we help a homeless family get into housing?
Very nice idea, and the following is in no way meant as criticism. It is something to think about, though.

The majority of money that is given to charities goes to charities which operate in rich, western countries. Meanwhile, in poorer countries, people are dying of things that could easily have been prevented.

For example, take HIV. Every single day thousands of children are born with HIV. But wait - they aren't actually born with it, it most often gets transmitted at birth. A few simple pills can prevent this from happening. In fact, saving the life of a single child this way costs about $5. You heard me right, $5. That's a small cappucino at Starbucks. And that's just one example of many.

Charities in western countries that cater to the relatively unfortunate in rich countries have far more money to better the lives of a few, than charities focused on poor countries have to save the lives of many.

A simple example. My mother is currently managing the budget for a charity that helps ex-convicts (including murderers, rapists, etc.). The money they spend on helping a few dozen of those get back on track each year could literally save the lives of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people who simply had the misfortune of being born in the wrong place, at the wrong time.

This auction of yours will probably raise a few thousand dollars. Undoubtedly, providing a single mother with daycare for a year is a great cause. However, that same money could be used to save the lives of thousands of children just like hers (that is to say, like hers, but probably black, whereas hers are likely to be white). Meanwhile, her children aren't likely to starve or die of disease if she isn't helped. She and her children will have a hard time, probably, but they will not die.

Helping people is a great thing. Still, it only makes sense to help those most in need of help, and in a way that helps as many people as possible.
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Very nice idea, and the following is in no way meant as criticism. It is something to think about, though.

The majority of money that is given to charities goes to charities which operate in rich, western countries. Meanwhile, in poorer countries, people are dying of things that could easily have been prevented.

For example, take HIV. Every single day thousands of children are born with HIV. But wait - they aren't actually born with it, it most often gets transmitted at birth. A few simple pills can prevent this from happening. In fact, saving the life of a single child this way costs about $5. You heard me right, $5. That's a small cappucino at Starbucks. And that's just one example of many.

Charities in western countries that cater to the relatively unfortunate in rich countries have far more money to better the lives of a few, than charities focused on poor countries have to save the lives of many.

A simple example. My mother is currently managing the budget for a charity that helps ex-convicts (including murderers, rapists, etc.). The money they spend on helping a few dozen of those get back on track each year could literally save the lives of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people who simply had the misfortune of being born in the wrong place, at the wrong time.

This auction of yours will probably raise a few thousand dollars. Undoubtedly, providing a single mother with daycare for a year is a great cause. However, that same money could be used to save the lives of thousands of children just like hers (that is to say, like hers, but probably black, whereas hers are likely to be white). Meanwhile, her children aren't likely to starve or die of disease if she isn't helped. She and her children will have a hard time, probably, but they will not die.

Helping people is a great thing. Still, it only makes sense to help those most in need of help, and in a way that helps as many people as possible.

I am sure teh BA knows that as i am sure it is a hard choice to make on who to donate to.... Please don't stress the little girl!
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Very nice idea, and the following is in no way meant as criticism. It is something to think about, though.

The majority of money that is given to charities goes to charities which operate in rich, western countries. Meanwhile, in poorer countries, people are dying of things that could easily have been prevented.

For example, take HIV. Every single day thousands of children are born with HIV. But wait - they aren't actually born with it, it most often gets transmitted at birth. A few simple pills can prevent this from happening. In fact, saving the life of a single child this way costs about $5. You heard me right, $5. That's a small cappucino at Starbucks. And that's just one example of many.
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True, but it isn't as simple as that. These drugs are not generic. You have to make a deal with the pharma companies to buy at that price - major charities do, because it makes the pharma co's get good karma. A few thousand $ from the porn industry won't make those guys jump through hoops.

Then there are the distribution costs. And the administration. To make a difference in the way you mean, TBA would have to donate the money to one of the charities already doing that work, like the International Red Cross.

TBA's idea isn't a bad one and the decision as to who will receive it is going to be difficult - already $5k will change the right person's life.
Just hope he doesn't use one of his examples - ie buy them a car. Fuck, that would be stupid.
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Have you not seen Mark????? Who doesn't have a crush on him that has seen his pictures!

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Hehe yeah I know he has a crush on me. It was our secret but now everyone knows j/j

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TBA's idea isn't a bad one and the decision as to who will receive it is going to be difficult
Yes, it is going to be difficult, but that's why we'll be working with charities who will be able to help us determine the right family.

In the end, I want it to be someone that once turned in the right direction with our help, will be able to make a go of it on their own, not end up back at square one.
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bro, you seem like a cool guy, but it was uncalled for to ignore jons donation, then on top of that start a thread about him ragging on his design business. im sure that i can find faults in your program as well if i wanted to and dig a little bit. and if you come back with all of the things that guy did in the past, well you did not know that at the time, because the thread you started was about strictly his design work

just wanted to get my 2 cents in, i like most of your posts, you are one of theh few guys on here that actually makes me laugh out loud, so keep that up
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7. IntenseCash.com - $4,500
6. WEGCash.com - $4,000
5. OnlineFutureCash.com - $3,500
4. WEGCash.com - $3,000
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2. YouHaveSales.com - $1,000
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Yes, it is going to be difficult, but that's why we'll be working with charities who will be able to help us determine the right family.

In the end, I want it to be someone that once turned in the right direction with our help, will be able to make a go of it on their own, not end up back at square one.
If you're going to work with charities anyway, why not help out an entire African village, rather than a single, probably American, family?
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If you're going to work with charities anyway, why not help out an entire African village, rather than a single, probably American, family?
I really don't understand why every time I raise money for something, a ton of people chime in saying I should be raising money for something else instead?

There are a LOT of good causes in this world, and a LOT of people that need a LOT of help for a LOT of different reasons.

The reason I chose this particular cause for the holiday season is simple:

It's a lot easier for people to identify with an American family facing hardship, where they will hear about their circumstances, and how their lives have been changed, than it is for them to identify with a blackhole of a charity where they never really see how the money is put to use.

Yes, large charities are more efficient in the ways that they spend their money, and can do a lot of good for a lot of people for a lot less. But at the same time, there's no way to identify with that on a personal level.

When the results of this auction are announced, whoever the top bidder is, everyone will be able to read the story of this family, and how their life has been changed, and I suspect everyone will be touched on a personal level, and just maybe some will be inspired to give to charities that haven't done so before, or that don't do so on a regular basis.

No matter what, everyone will walk away from this experience and holiday season with a warm feeling in their hearts.

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