Are these guys scammers? - GoFuckYourself.com

MarkTiarra · 12-12-2006, 11:37 PM

http://zabodau.com/

bizman2960 · 12-12-2006, 11:39 PM

I think maybe so.

aico · 12-12-2006, 11:45 PM

common sense tells me yes.

MarkTiarra · 12-13-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by aico

common sense tells me yes.

Yeah nothing about this doesn't fall under "too good to be true" so I tend to agree but they make a good enough front that I wonder...

martinsc · 12-13-2006, 12:08 AM

sounds like scam to me...

MarkTiarra · 12-13-2006, 12:09 AM

Only other thing I found is the WHOIS shows them to be in Finland.

xclusive · 12-13-2006, 12:13 AM

Yeah i'd say it's a scam

jollyperv · 12-13-2006, 12:27 AM

I'm afraid to even click that fucking link.

Webby · 12-13-2006, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkTiarra

Yeah nothing about this doesn't fall under "too good to be true" so I tend to agree but they make a good enough front that I wonder...

Software rips - and marketing by spam using contact crap in Finland.

Domain and related domains created this and last month - bets on they are lining up for a hit using a few domains/faces. Sloppy and amateur biz front face despite a half-good website front - candidates for cuffs depending on jurisidiction/nature of offenses.

PS The software is below any pricing level a publisher would distribute - and complete with no license nor any support

fallenmuffin · 12-13-2006, 12:56 AM

Based on the template useage and the about.php page i'd say they are based in India...

woj · 12-13-2006, 12:59 AM

yea, looks like a scam...

chodadog · 12-13-2006, 01:05 AM

It's not a scam in the sense that they'll be fucking over customers or anything. Customers are going to get what they paid for, and what they're paying for is a pirated copy of the software. They're obviously scamming the software companies out of legitimate sales, though.

LazyII · 12-13-2006, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chodadog

It's not a scam in the sense that they'll be fucking over customers or anything. Customers are going to get what they paid for, and what they're paying for is a pirated copy of the software. They're obviously scamming the software companies out of legitimate sales, though.

No scammers. And for Finland, The Fins are among the most honest people on the earth.
You will get what you pay for. But I really think there are Russians behind it.

JD · 12-13-2006, 01:18 AM

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PO box 109 WP 1432
Lappeenranta NA 53101
FI

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who · 12-13-2006, 01:21 AM

Yes they most certainly ARE scammers. They're selling pirated software, isn't that a scam?

MarkTiarra · 12-13-2006, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by who

Yes they most certainly ARE scammers. They're selling pirated software, isn't that a scam?

Didn't know if it was pirated or not. So they sell cracked versions or give BS serial #s I guess? I actually found this site when I did a search for the latest Cubase software and it came up as a paid Google advertiser.

Webby · 12-13-2006, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

Based on the template useage and the about.php page i'd say they are based in India...

Totally possible fm. Tho also a fair bet he is far closer to home than we may think - or, at least the instigator/motivator is. Poss in Warwick NY area.

The spam is very low so far - hardly enough to warrant any volume short time hit pre-Christmas. Could be just a small-time ripper and no card fraud - time will tell.

Webby · 12-13-2006, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who

Yes they most certainly ARE scammers. They're selling pirated software, isn't that a scam?

Sure, it's illegal - especially in the publishers eyes

Tho they are not claiming it's "legal" and offer no licenses or support. This stuff is available on any warez/torrent site - the difference is they are asking money for it - which poss leads on to card fraud which may be of more concern to folks than software rips.

reynold · 12-13-2006, 01:30 AM

Be careful, dude. I just don't feel like trusting those guys.

Webby · 12-13-2006, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkTiarra

Didn't know if it was pirated or not. So they sell cracked versions or give BS serial #s I guess? I actually found this site when I did a search for the latest Cubase software and it came up as a paid Google advertiser.

Yes Mark - it's pirated or ripped software. Some of the sale pricing levels are below that which a distributor would purchase for legitimate copies with licenses - even for "electronic delivery".

Here's another couple of domains/mirrors:
http://www.oemofoem.com
http://www.hohlomator.com
http://www.worldsoftwaredirect.com
http://www.mamaoem.org (non operational)

Whois info can be amusing on some of them

BlueWire · 12-13-2006, 02:12 AM

Mark,

It is possible to get those software titles legit for those prices or below; HOWEVER, the bulk rates for this start at purchases of 100 licenses on Adobe products and 200 licenses on Macromedia products (Yes, i know...same company but they have still kept the same licensing rules).

It is possible to get Photoshop for $100/License and Dreamweaver + Flash for $150/Combo License

As for these guys...SCAMMERS

killerkay · 12-13-2006, 02:18 AM

sure looks like it

Webby · 12-13-2006, 02:29 AM

K... more... it's an old face - here's some of the domains involved... but there are a lot more - prob around 600 - 900 ish:

oemnapne.com
oemofoem.com
oemnick.com
oemlifestyle.com
oemlifestyle.net
gromko-oem.com
rolikooem.com
oemsleva.net
oemsleva.com
oemvlesu.net
oemvlesu.com
chesnok-oem.net
yomaoem.net
krivoem.net
mamaoem.org
oemsoftnow.net
2007ad.com
oemsoftsave.net
oemsoftsave.com
oemsoftnow.com
hohlomator.com
mp3dozer.com
oemsprava.com
oemsprava.net
oemvreke.net
oemvreke.com
worldsoftwaredirect.com
softruba.com
oemguy.com
oemsverhu.com
oemsverhu.net

K! Meet Alex Rodrigez, AKA Leo Kuvayev, 34 yr Russian and major spammer. He's spammed everything from watches to porn to, well - software.
Never checked, but chances are the downloads are coming from China as is his modus operandi.

And a nice pic of him sitting on his throne

And hell, he's even qualified for own entry in wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Kuvayev

SO... Back to your question Mark - Yes, it's kinda illegal

Webby · 12-13-2006, 02:38 AM

BTW... Leo Kuvayev is a US citizen from the Mass area and currently on the wanted list - but, least last is known, has skipped off back to Russia.

starpimps · 12-13-2006, 02:54 AM

lol i wonder who actually pays for that
if it seems impossible, it is impossible

madawgz · 12-13-2006, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by chodadog

It's not a scam in the sense that they'll be fucking over customers or anything. Customers are going to get what they paid for, and what they're paying for is a pirated copy of the software. They're obviously scamming the software companies out of legitimate sales, though.

exactly what i was going to say, your better off download it on bittorent

en21 · 12-13-2006, 04:06 AM

pirated software is illegal

12-12-2006, 11:37 PM	#1
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12-12-2006, 11:45 PM	#3
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	common sense tells me yes.

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12-13-2006, 01:21 AM	#15
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	Yes they most certainly ARE scammers. They're selling pirated software, isn't that a scam?

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reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	Be careful, dude. I just don't feel like trusting those guys.

12-13-2006, 02:12 AM	#21
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	Mark, It is possible to get those software titles legit for those prices or below; HOWEVER, the bulk rates for this start at purchases of 100 licenses on Adobe products and 200 licenses on Macromedia products (Yes, i know...same company but they have still kept the same licensing rules). It is possible to get Photoshop for $100/License and Dreamweaver + Flash for $150/Combo License As for these guys...SCAMMERS

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killerkay Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: amish paradise Posts: 1,482	sure looks like it

12-13-2006, 02:29 AM	#23
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	K... more... it's an old face - here's some of the domains involved... but there are a lot more - prob around 600 - 900 ish: oemnapne.com oemofoem.com oemnick.com oemlifestyle.com oemlifestyle.net gromko-oem.com rolikooem.com oemsleva.net oemsleva.com oemvlesu.net oemvlesu.com chesnok-oem.net yomaoem.net krivoem.net mamaoem.org oemsoftnow.net 2007ad.com oemsoftsave.net oemsoftsave.com oemsoftnow.com hohlomator.com mp3dozer.com oemsprava.com oemsprava.net oemvreke.net oemvreke.com worldsoftwaredirect.com softruba.com oemguy.com oemsverhu.com oemsverhu.net K! Meet Alex Rodrigez, AKA Leo Kuvayev, 34 yr Russian and major spammer. He's spammed everything from watches to porn to, well - software. Never checked, but chances are the downloads are coming from China as is his modus operandi. And a nice pic of him sitting on his throne And hell, he's even qualified for own entry in wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Kuvayev SO... Back to your question Mark - Yes, it's kinda illegal __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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