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dig420 · 12-13-2006, 03:10 PM

I lease a Lexus in the company name for tax reasons, the car is practically free since the payments get deducted. Leasing is smart.

GonZo · 12-13-2006, 03:14 PM

I worry about very little these days.

I plan on taking a cool vaction at the end of June. Probably not the kind you have lined up I guess though.

Anthony · 12-13-2006, 03:15 PM

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Lots of people lease cars and homes - including at least one "playa". I don't see why the issue keeps being brought up against you. If you want to lease your home, your car, your TV - WTF cares??

Well Peaches my dear... It's the only thing in his mind he is better than me at, hence why he brings it up. Which is a joke, since it's wrong.

At the end of the day, I giggle at the obtuse dumpy fellow and his version of the real world.

TheEnforcer · 12-13-2006, 03:18 PM

Just let me know if Sic em Sig and the DNic lawyers end up tangling with the FSC lawyers. Wouldn't want to miss that! :>))

Anthony · 12-13-2006, 03:20 PM

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I worry about very little these days.

No mirrors in your house? You gots lots to worry about.

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I plan on taking a cool vaction at the end of June. Probably not the kind you have lined up I guess though.

Still going on about the CISP thing are you? 365Billing.com is fully compliant with Visa CISP, and would be more than happy to provide any of our customers any data to corroborate this fact.

I'd also like to mention that 365Billing.com has been nominated as Best IPSP for the 2007 Xbiz Awards.

God, that world must be crumbling down now. LOL

jscott · 12-13-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

I have never seen so many dumbASSumptions in my life - even on GFY!

NOTHING has been played out. DirectNic put a lock until they heard from the customer. Who's to say it won't be removed once the customer says "I want to change registars instead of giving you proof of age"? Who's to say DirectNic wanted anything but the company to contact them and clear up complaints of possible underage pictures? How is it a violation of privacy to provide just a picture and DOB? And more importantly, where was the FSC when at least one of their members was being checked out by the FBI, lol.

Move your domains. From what others have posted, other domain companies have similar stipulations in their contracts (which probably most of you never bother to read...........).

dumb ass assumptions??? the owner contacted directnic 1st thing!!! wouldnt you if they locked your domain?

darksoul · 12-13-2006, 03:22 PM

funny how Mike AI's groupies come into this thread to back him up

what a fucked up industry

Anthony · 12-13-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

I lease a Lexus in the company name for tax reasons, the car is practically free since the payments get deducted. Leasing is smart.

I'm looking at the new G35 myself. Kinda torn between that and a new 300C SRT.

Only idiots think leasing a car is anything but smart. But then again, look who brought it up.

Peaches · 12-13-2006, 03:28 PM

I didn't see Slick contacting DirectNic first, he posted HERE first. In fact, he didn't even know who Intercosmos was.

Pleasurepays · 12-13-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

Hey pleasurepays... I bet you think the Patriot Act is just fine, don't you? I bet you think Bush wiretapping American citizens is fine and dandy, we shouldn't teach evolution in schools, and all kinds of other fun stuff. Maybe we shouldn't hold a presidential election in a time of war?

The fact that you were dead wrong on this issue just highlights the fact that you're dead wrong on damn near EVERY issue. Again, you are evil. You can get personal, you can claim I'm an angry man, but at the end of the day you are what you are, and that's a misguided wannabe moral leader of the porn community. Sad.

1) Patriot Act was originally a Clinton invention.. what was it called again? The Anti-Terrorism Bill?

2) I think the issues are more complicated than you want to accept that they are and that each issue has to be examined and weighed on its own merit.

3) I dont think there is a perfect solution to fighting terrorism in the year 2006 that you will agree with as long as it wasn't dreamed up by a Democrat, so its really a moot point what i think... because any hope of rational debate goes out the window before a word is spoken.

4) - we shouldn't teach evolution in schools? Huh? I don't believe in God. I dont believe in teaching that an invisible ghost created everything.

5) i was dead wrong on this issue? really? what was my position? You assumed i had a position and began attacking me. My position was "hey, slow down and try to examine this from all sides first"... not too sure why you can't see that as being reasonable.

6) Moral Leader of the porn community? Me? You couldn't back that up if you wanted to. I dont care what anyone does.

Do you want to keep owning yourself? Either you know nothing about me after all these years... or we are witnessing the unfortuneate effects of your tin foil body suit finally depriving you of much needed air and sunlight.

woj · 12-13-2006, 03:31 PM

I'm pretty sure they know what they are doing, I'm sure they consulted their lawyers about this and that's what their lawyers told them to do...

Anthony · 12-13-2006, 03:32 PM

We currently have 3 pisses going on concurrently in this thread.

FUCKING AWESOME!!!

Peaches · 12-13-2006, 03:33 PM

And I can't get the damn quote feature to work!

Anthony · 12-13-2006, 03:36 PM

Me neither, I've been just typing the quote tag in instead.

Not much more here for me to hang around for.

I took the best 1-2 combo Gonzo had, danced around him, made him look a fool, and now he's gone.

It's all in the Cardio, and skillz.

Pleasurepays · 12-13-2006, 03:40 PM

Confession Time
Dig420 and myself made a gay porn movie when we were both just 18. It was called Bi-Partisan. I was broke and needed the money and Dig420 was such a handsome boy and kept propositioning me. I was confused. I had a lot of issues in my childhood with my father and felt i could recreate the love i felt i was missing out on by making love to Dig420 and saving it forever on film. It was a mistake. I have lived in terror that the movie would one day surface. I can't take it anymore. I am sorry for all those i have decieved... please accept my apology. I am married today to a very beautiful woman... but it could very well be that i am just kidding myself. Underneath that outer image of happiness and contentment is really just a confused young man, in assless leather chaps, bitter that Dig420 refuses to return my calls.

stickyfingerz · 12-13-2006, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I'm looking at the new G35 myself. Kinda torn between that and a new 300C SRT.

Only idiots think leasing a car is anything but smart. But then again, look who brought it up.

Go for the 300c. I test drove the fully fully loaded model black on black. Think sticker was just about 45k. Thing is a monster, and feels great to drive.

RawAlex · 12-13-2006, 03:44 PM

Coming soon to Gay College Teen Book Bang....

Anthony · 12-13-2006, 03:50 PM

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Go for the 300c. I test drove the fully fully loaded model black on black. Think sticker was just about 45k. Thing is a monster, and feels great to drive.

I agree, but the new redesigned G35 is just sweet. The lease payments are very close, as well as the down.

jscott · 12-13-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

I didn't see Slick contacting DirectNic first, he posted HERE first. In fact, he didn't even know who Intercosmos was.

http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=18587
it did say it there, about how he's waiting on a reply

PMdave · 12-13-2006, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jscott

http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=18587
it did say it there, about how he's waiting on a reply

now I dont see that in that article....
What I do see is this:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...6#post11516286

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Originally Posted by Slick

I suppose that I should email them and see what they say. I just don't know what I should tell them. They want a current state issued photo id for every model on my page, that's something I definately don't got.

Anyone know of a good adult related attorney ???

He posted on gfy yesterday and an hour later he started considering contacting them.

Peaches · 12-13-2006, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jscott

http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=18587
it did say it there, about how he's waiting on a reply

I don't see where it says he 1st contacted DirectNic on that link nor how he's waiting for a reply. And if you look around, it's quite clear he didn't even know who Intercosmos was when he started the first thread.

Fresh · 12-13-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I'm looking at the new G35 myself. Kinda torn between that and a new 300C SRT.

Only idiots think leasing a car is anything but smart. But then again, look who brought it up.

Bump for a good cause and...

depending on where you live, the Crently is so all over the place i wouldnt even consider it. California for example, has shit loads of them. Base to fully loaded. All over.

If you were stuck between these two choices i would suggest the G35 because its a brand new design.. wont get old for a while, holds a higher resale value if im not mistaken. which is ideal for a lease.

If youre open to it, also check out the 335i sedan. 300hp, 300 tq, handles like its on rails.

Either way... good luck on ur next car

BoyAlley · 12-13-2006, 05:25 PM

It was brought to my attention that this opinion is from Jeffrey Douglas acting as a first amendment attorney, and not Jefferey Douglas speaking in his capacity as the executive director of the FSC. I read how he was introduced in the article and made an incorrect transcription.

My apologies for any confusion.

JFK · 12-13-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

It was brought to my attention that this opinion is from Jeffrey Douglas acting as a first amendment attorney, and not Jefferey Douglas speaking in his capacity as the executive director of the FSC. I read how he was introduced in the article and made an incorrect transcription.

My apologies for any confusion.

AHHHH ............Legaleze speak

Peaches · 12-13-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

It was brought to my attention that this opinion is from Jeffrey Douglas acting as a first amendment attorney, and not Jefferey Douglas speaking in his capacity as the executive director of the FSC. I read how he was introduced in the article and made an incorrect transcription.

My apologies for any confusion.

Put that cart before the horse again, didn't ya?

BoyAlley · 12-13-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Put that cart before the horse again, didn't ya?

No, I just read how he was introduced in the article:

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First Amendment attorney and Free Speech Coalition Chairman Jeffrey Douglas said the ID request is unprecedented, and more importantly, a violation of privacy laws. According to Douglas, the request is illegal, and also could have a chilling effect on the free speech of webmasters that deal in legal teen content.

It was an honest mistake on my part, and I've corrected it and apologized for it.

LadyMischief · 12-13-2006, 05:53 PM

Ya I kind of figured that.

pornguy · 12-13-2006, 05:53 PM

sounds like the domain owner needs a new attoreny

sarettah · 12-13-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

.we knew a legal analysis by one of the countries top first amendment attorneys was on the way.

So, it appears to me that you passed the thread(s) to him, or a synopsis of the threads and he did his in depth legal analysis based on what he read or you told him.

I stated earlier that I had a lawyer friend looking at it (and yes, he is a free speech guy) and he read all the threads, went and looked at various sections of the US code, read DN's terms and conditions, looked at the sites in question and he is far from ready to give me his opinion on this whole mess.

I don't know why a lawyer would put his opinion out there without a good amount of research first.

just my

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dig420 · 12-13-2006, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Put that cart before the horse again, didn't ya?

why is the whole fat fucking nobody crew out defending directnic? do you have ANY IDEA how they really feel about you guys? lol...

BoyAlley · 12-13-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

So, it appears to me that you passed the thread(s) to him, or a synopsis of the threads and he did his in depth legal analysis based on what he read or you told him.

[....]

I don't know why a lawyer would put his opinion out there without a good amount of research first.

1. No, I didn't talk to him at all about this matter. His opinions, analysis, and comment have nothing to do with me, and are a result of the article XBiz researched.

2. Maybe because a really good lawyer that has a specialty like Freedom of Speech, that they deal with day in and day out, already knows the relevant laws by heart and don't need time to research them? I don't know, ask him. I'd hardly question the professionalism of an attorney like Douglas though.

Peaches · 12-13-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

why is the whole fat fucking nobody crew out defending directnic? do you have ANY IDEA how they really feel about you guys? lol...

I'm defending them because I see their legal exposure here. I also see that they, unlike most other registrars who from what I can tell have the same TOS, actually went to the webmaster first instead of turning it over directly to the government.

As I stated elsewhere, the probable outcome in all this will be fewer registrars willing to have domains with adult material on them, just like hosting companies and billing companies have been doing for years.

Jace · 12-13-2006, 06:37 PM

wow, there are so many fights in this thread I am getting lost

and..............i really think it is kind of scary that Directnic is doing this, and I don't think it is right one bit....a registrar isn't content police, if they have an issue they can easily just protect their asses by reporting what they think is questionable

dig420 · 12-13-2006, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

I'm defending them because I see their legal exposure here. I also see that they, unlike most other registrars who from what I can tell have the same TOS, actually went to the webmaster first instead of turning it over directly to the government.

oh ok, so you're a lawyer now? So tell me, lawyer, are they also allowed to keep your domains if you choose not to comply with thier demands?

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Originally Posted by Peaches

As I stated elsewhere, the probable outcome in all this will be fewer registrars willing to have domains with adult material on them, just like hosting companies and billing companies have been doing for years.

Either that or fewer people will choose to register their domains with a netcop registrar who's going to add to their daily burden.

Peaches · 12-13-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

and..............i really think it is kind of scary that Directnic is doing this, and I don't think it is right one bit....a registrar isn't content police, if they have an issue they can easily just protect their asses by reporting what they think is questionable

And if it was your domain, you would rather have them send the info directly to the government before contacting you about it? Personally I'd rather be given the chance to clear it up myself first. Do you think the FBI is going to just walk away when you say "I don't have that information - it was sent to me by someone else"? There have already been cases where the FBI has done investigations - even on at least one FSC member, IIRC.

Peaches · 12-13-2006, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

oh ok, so you're a lawyer now? So tell me, lawyer, are they also allowed to keep your domains if you choose not to comply with thier demands?

Slick's lawyer seems to be telling him to cooperate with DirectNic.

dig420 · 12-13-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Slick's lawyer seems to be telling him to cooperate with DirectNic.

No lawyer worth a shit is going to volunteer his client to be a test case, regardless of his chances. Would you want to be in court defending yourself against pedo charges in a high exposure scenario? Would you want your registrar to put you in that position?

Peaches · 12-13-2006, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

No lawyer worth a shit is going to volunteer his client to be a test case, regardless of his chances. Would you want to be in court defending yourself against pedo charges in a high exposure scenario? Would you want your registrar to put you in that position?

Tell ya what Dig - find a site with CP on it. Report it to their registrar. See how long they're online.

Even seasoned webmasters have stated that several of the girls looked underaged. At least DirectNic contacted the webmaster instead of shutting down the site immediately and sending the FBI over for a little face to face visit. I doubt most other registrars would have been that lenient.

dig420 · 12-13-2006, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Tell ya what Dig - find a site with CP on it. Report it to their registrar. See how long they're online.

Even seasoned webmasters have stated that several of the girls looked underaged. At least DirectNic contacted the webmaster instead of shutting down the site immediately and sending the FBI over for a little face to face visit. I doubt most other registrars would have been that lenient.

I don't look around for CP. Ever.

Second, I have no problem with them ASKING for docs. I have a problem with them threatening to seize the domains. If they don't want to do business with teen sites that's their business, just let em go. Maybe they could state on their front page that if their customers have any images of girls that look young they should submit their paperwork in advance, and thus save their domain? I don't do business with ANYONE who might try to take my domains from me. They're mine, you can't have them. PERIOD.

sarettah · 12-13-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

1. No, I didn't talk to him at all about this matter. His opinions, analysis, and comment have nothing to do with me, and are a result of the article XBiz researched.

If you didn't contact him, how did you know his opinion was on the way.

dig420 · 12-13-2006, 07:08 PM

The question also has to be: Does your registrar have a RIGHT to force you to submit model docs to them? Do they have the right to keep your domain if you refuse? What if your hosting company's upstream provider decides to demand your docs? Do they get to keep everything you have on the server for their own use if you refuse? Where does it end? I say it begins and ends with the hosting company, they're the ones with liability, NOT the registrar.

jimthefiend · 12-13-2006, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

The question also has to be: Does your registrar have a RIGHT to force you to submit model docs to them? Do they have the right to keep your domain if you refuse? What if your hosting company's upstream provider decides to demand your docs? Do they get to keep everything you have on the server for their own use if you refuse? Where does it end? I say it begins and ends with the hosting company, they're the ones with liability, NOT the registrar.

No, no, no, fuck them, no, it never ends once it starts.

In order. LOL

Theo · 12-13-2006, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Ooops, almost missed this, sorry bout that.

The nice thing about what was Oprano was that facts never got skipped, if people were wrong, they ponied on up and said "I was wrong".

It wouldn't happened if many of the responses posted so far weren't biased first place. (not specifically yours)

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Originally Posted by sarettah

In this case, I don't happen to agree with the FSC lawyer and I have a lawyer friend of mine checking things out to give me his opinion before I pony up. If Jim agrees with the FSC, then I will say I was wrong, but so far he is telling me that DN can ask for anything they fucking please and are not in violation of the law by doing so. Whether Slick has to comply is another story alltogether.

Would be interesting to see Jim's official response on this forum since he's a free speech guy as well. I mean something more than "DN can ask for anything they fucking please".

BoyAlley · 12-13-2006, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

If you didn't contact him, how did you know his opinion was on the way.

I re-tuned my gaydar into a psychic antenna.

sarettah · 12-13-2006, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

Would be interesting to see Jim's official response on this forum since he's a free speech guy as well. I mean something more than "DN can ask for anything they fucking please".

Lolol.. That is a direct quote from him too.

I don't know if I can get him to register and post or not but I will mention it to him when I yak with him later, have to talk to him about a couple of other things anyway

Digg. I just went over the terms and conditions at bulkregister (where darkcavern is reged) and they say they can grab your domains for "serious allegations of illegal activity" or

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we and your Primary Service Provider may terminate or suspend the Service(s) at any time for cause, which, without limitation, includes registration of prohibited domain name(s), abuse of the Services, payment irregularities, serious allegations of illegal conduct, or if your use of the Services involves us in a violation of any Internet Service Provider's ("ISP's") acceptable use policies

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Following notice of termination other than for cause, you must transfer your domain name

So, it sounds to me like you don't get to transfer away if cancellation is for cause.

So far, every registrar I have checked has similar policies. It seems to me that they must be getting authority for this shit from somewhere, just haven't found out where yet. It isn't from ICANN, pretty clear that they just manage names and numbers and in fact somewhere on their site I saw something about obeying your registrars rules bt not ennumerating what rules the registrar had to have in place.

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sarettah · 12-13-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

I re-tuned my gaydar into a psychic antenna.

Hope you kept it tuned so you can pick up the message I'm broadcasting at your ass right about now

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12clicks · 12-13-2006, 07:36 PM

a registar overstepping its bounds is not someone to be trusted or used.

Gee, a complaint comes in from [email protected] and all the sudden you've got to jump through hoops to satisfy your registar? fuck that. time to move to a more stable situation.

dig420 · 12-13-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Lolol.. That is a direct quote from him too.

I don't know if I can get him to register and post or not but I will mention it to him when I yak with him later, have to talk to him about a couple of other things anyway

Digg. I just went over the terms and conditions at bulkregister (where darkcavern is reged) and they say they can grab your domains for "serious allegations of illegal activity" or

So, it sounds to me like you don't get to transfer away if cancellation is for cause.

So far, every registrar I have checked has similar policies. It seems to me that they must be getting authority for this shit from somewhere, just haven't found out where yet. It isn't from ICANN, pretty clear that they just manage names and numbers and in fact somewhere on their site I saw something about obeying your registrars rules bt not ennumerating what rules the registrar had to have in place.

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oh imagine that, they try to indemnify and empower themselves in every possible way on their TOS. Wow. hey, I do that too! I guess I can take every surfer's first born child, as long as it's in my TOS right? Maybe arbitrarily and suddenly up the membership fees to $832.98 per month? Good business right? After all, i have the authority to do that per my TOS.

Point is I have 200 domains registered there, at least, and I've never heard a peep from them. Doubt I ever will, although they did just go thru a change of ownership, and if they DID try to take my domains they'd have to fight off a team of lawyers fully funded and ready to countersue. I have NEVER heard of a REGISTRAR threatening to seize your domain, and I hope I never hear of it again.

dig420 · 12-13-2006, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

a registar overstepping its bounds is not someone to be trusted or used.

Gee, a complaint comes in from [email protected] and all the sudden you've got to jump through hoops to satisfy your registar? fuck that. time to move to a more stable situation.

BAM!!!

what more needs to be said?

minusonebit · 12-13-2006, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Excellent reporting here by Steve Javors:

http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=18587

Thats good reporting? Where is the legal analysis? The caselaw? An FSC staff attorney saying something is illegal doesn't make it so. That said, I'm not sure I agree with any of the conclusions reached here. If you don't like the way your registrar does business, then go to someone else. Its not like there is a monopoly. This isnt a free speech issue, its a contract breach case between a client and a company. Get the lawyers involved, file a lawsuit if needed and be done with it.

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12-13-2006, 06:37 PM	#83
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	wow, there are so many fights in this thread I am getting lost and..............i really think it is kind of scary that Directnic is doing this, and I don't think it is right one bit....a registrar isn't content police, if they have an issue they can easily just protect their asses by reporting what they think is questionable

12-13-2006, 07:08 PM	#91
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	The question also has to be: Does your registrar have a RIGHT to force you to submit model docs to them? Do they have the right to keep your domain if you refuse? What if your hosting company's upstream provider decides to demand your docs? Do they get to keep everything you have on the server for their own use if you refuse? Where does it end? I say it begins and ends with the hosting company, they're the ones with liability, NOT the registrar.

12-13-2006, 07:36 PM	#97
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,787	a registar overstepping its bounds is not someone to be trusted or used. Gee, a complaint comes in from [email protected] and all the sudden you've got to jump through hoops to satisfy your registar? fuck that. time to move to a more stable situation. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.