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Old 12-13-2006, 05:18 PM   #1
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DirectNic - SlicksNetwork Update !!!!

Well, my attorney got an email reply from DirectNic. They want me to confirm the models ages of the first 14 thumbs on Major Pervert. If I can do that, they say they'll let this go.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:29 PM   #2
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They did also extend the deadline, although they didn't state until when, so they are willing to work with me and making it easier on my by requesting for 14 thumbs rather than every one, so they re being more reasonable and willing to get this solved, I do appreciate that.
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just get the 2257 pages from the sponsor and you're good to go...i think...
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tell them to FUCK off... they arent the DOJ
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good to hear there is contact and communications to resolve the problem
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No, don't react like a dumb webmaster. They made a (silly) demand, but then gave you some leeway due to legal issues. Give them some leeway too, don't be an asshole (I am fairly sure you won't be). They say they want you to 'confirm', so confirm! ;) Then it's a battle won. By you.
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Well, my attorney got an email reply from DirectNic. They want me to confirm the models ages of the first 14 thumbs on Major Pervert. If I can do that, they say they'll let this go.
Great news. Will your sponsors cooperate and give up the model IDs?
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I would comply for the sake of your domains. Then I'd move those domains off them as fast as possible. I couldn't fathom using them as a registrar after this.
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Ah, sounds like good news Slick. Now you either comply and get on with business as usual, or you tell them to eat a dick and take your domain business elsewhere.

Or... you comply, then still take your business elsewhere.


But in my opinion directnic are just looking out for their own best interests, as any company of good consience should be doing.

If it were me I think I'd just show the proof (or get my sponsor to show the proof), and move on. SAVE ALL EMAILS AND CORRESPONDENCES pertaining to this matter though. If anything crops up like this in the future you will have some reference material to show that says you were found to be opertating above-board in the past.

But hopefully nothing like this happens to you again man. Good luck.
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Does the sponsor have to get permission from the model before they give out the ID to these jackasses?
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I would comply for the sake of your domains. Then I'd move those domains off them as fast as possible. I couldn't fathom using them as a registrar after this.

How is he going to comply. How many sponsors do you think are actually going to just hand over this info to any affiliate much less some non government entity.

Furthermore, its a lowly law clerk making the demands. Maybe the law clerk should stick to studying and prepping for the bar exam.

Direct NIC has no legal grounds to stand on and will lose big time if they decide to pursue this further.


FUCK direct NIC
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Great news. Will your sponsors cooperate and give up the model IDs?
Yeah, that's a good question. I hit up a couple of sponsors that I know well on ICQ, so we'll see if it's possible. If it is with them, I'll hit up the other sponsors that I have no connections with.

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Well, my attorney got an email reply from DirectNic. They want me to confirm the models ages of the first 14 thumbs on Major Pervert. If I can do that, they say they'll let this go.
I guess that's the answer then.. I'm transferring my domains away from them. I can agree with the need to police CP. However it's not their job and they do not have the legal right to ask for ID's.

On top of that every domain should not be locked just because there was a complaint on one of them.

bye bye Directnic.. seems paying for overpriced registrations because a company has an adult history is no safer than dealing with a normal 8.99 registrar.
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I agree, and sue the shit out of them for at least 10 million.
They have no LEGAL right to ask for that info.
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Slick just curious, are you going to keep your domains there? If you don't want to answer I understand...
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Is it really resolved? They are still demanding the IDs or his sites get shut down. So now it's not every girl on his site it's just 14. The issue still remains, that they are over stepping their powers.
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How is he going to comply. How many sponsors do you think are actually going to just hand over this info to any affiliate much less some non government entity.

Furthermore, its a lowly law clerk making the demands. Maybe the law clerk should stick to studying and prepping for the bar exam.

Direct NIC has no legal grounds to stand on and will lose big time if they decide to pursue this further.


FUCK direct NIC




Imma have to agree with every word of that.


Don't allow a dangerous precedent to be set here Slick.
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I guess that's the answer then.. I'm transferring my domains away from them. I can agree with the need to police CP. However it's not their job and they do not have the legal right to ask for ID's.

On top of that every domain should not be locked just because there was a complaint on one of them.

bye bye Directnic.. seems paying for overpriced registrations because a company has an adult history is no safer than dealing with a normal 8.99 registrar.
I agree ...

My main domains ( only five ) are with them...

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I never even considered this...
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Just for shits and grins, since it's your ATTORNEY who got the email from DirectNic, what did the ATTORNEY advise you to do? Seems like the ATTORNEY is advising you to get the IDs, no?

The backseat lawyers need to be quiet and let the man get what he paid for when he got a real lawyer.
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How is he going to comply. How many sponsors do you think are actually going to just hand over this info to any affiliate much less some non government entity.

Furthermore, its a lowly law clerk making the demands. Maybe the law clerk should stick to studying and prepping for the bar exam.

Direct NIC has no legal grounds to stand on and will lose big time if they decide to pursue this further.


FUCK direct NIC
I really have no clue how he will comply. Right now it seems like he doesn't have many options though.

The only thing I can see out of this mess is to keep your domains as far away from DirectNic as possible.
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Don't allow a dangerous precedent to be set here Slick.
I didn't really think of that either. Open the door for one registrar and the rest come rushing in. Fuck, I'd put money toward a legal fund if he chooses to fight this.
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I never even considered this...
I did IMMEDIATELY. That's why I jumped Will's ass so hard over his fucking little whiny fucking clueless thread about this issue. (That and I just plain hate his ass.)

The idiots that are fucking trolling, or simply kissing Mikes ass really need to shut the fuck up and THINK for a minute or two about the ramifications of this.

This is BAD, mmkay.
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I wish you stupid fucks would give me credit for having a god damned brain. So I trolled you in 2002. Skate it off and accept the fact that I too, work in this industry and have for a LONG time.

Think people.
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Is it really resolved? They are still demanding the IDs or his sites get shut down. So now it's not every girl on his site it's just 14. The issue still remains, that they are over stepping their powers.
no, i agree with you, but i'm just saying that it is great that they are communicating with each other now, that way we'll know the next step to get this situation resolved
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Yeah, that's a good question. I hit up a couple of sponsors that I know well on ICQ, so we'll see if it's possible. If it is with them, I'll hit up the other sponsors that I have no connections with.
I'll hook you up for this gal np
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Slick just curious, are you going to keep your domains there? If you don't want to answer I understand...
You know, that's a good question. I guess that it depends on how this turns out in the end. In a way, I guess they mean well, but I'm not sure about the way they're handling this.

I guess on the plus side, once this is over, I should be cleared by them and not have to worry about this again.
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Will be interesting because 2 of the top 14 thumbs on that site were Lightspeed girls.. I know Steve L.. has posted in the past he would never give out his girls ID's.

Will he make a special exception in this case? Or will DirectNic accept the public 2257 info on their sites as proof of age?
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Don't allow a dangerous precedent to be set here Slick.
They cant set a precedent. It would have to be settled by a judge. Same as DN cant demand shit they are just opening themselves up to litigation and should be sued for flipantly fucking with the guys biz. If they didnt want him they should have asked him to move and refunded his money.
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Hey, kick ass man, thanks a million, I do greatly appreciate this
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I would give them the model IDs if the sponsors provided it to me to give them. I hate that it's come to this where registrars, blogs, forums, etc.. are becoming more at risk apparently, and I'm sure they're not exactly thrilled about it either.
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The fuck they can't set a precedent. If Slick puts up with this that is EXACTLY what they are doing.

Clueless dude.
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I did IMMEDIATELY. That's why I jumped Will's ass so hard over his fucking little whiny fucking clueless thread about this issue. (That and I just plain hate his ass.)

The idiots that are fucking trolling, or simply kissing Mikes ass really need to shut the fuck up and THINK for a minute or two about the ramifications of this.

This is BAD, mmkay.

omg I'm on the same side as JTF
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Just for shits and grins, since it's your ATTORNEY who got the email from DirectNic, what did the ATTORNEY advise you to do? Seems like the ATTORNEY is advising you to get the IDs, no?

The backseat lawyers need to be quiet and let the man get what he paid for when he got a real lawyer.
My attorney emailed them back to offer a list of the hosted galleries with thumbs and the sponsor that goes with them to see if they'll accept that, but he also said that I should work on trying to get the documents just in case.
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The idiots that are fucking trolling, or simply kissing Mikes ass really need to shut the fuck up and THINK for a minute or two about the ramifications of this.
You can burn puppies in a giant fire pit and be praised if you bought someone a $2 Michelob Light. It's amazing how many people are supporting DirectNic when you really step back and look at what they are doing.
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The only thing I'd give them at this point is a fed ex delivery which contained the print out of the email they sent me that I'd wiped my ass with at least 4 times.
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I would comply for the sake of your domains. Then I'd move those domains off them as fast as possible. I couldn't fathom using them as a registrar after this.
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My attorney emailed them back to offer a list of the hosted galleries with thumbs and the sponsor that goes with them to see if they'll accept that, but he also said that I should work on trying to get the documents just in case.
Sounds logical to me. That's why you hired him/her. They have your best interests in mind. An annonymous GFY username does not
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The fuck they can't set a precedent. If Slick puts up with this that is EXACTLY what they are doing.

Clueless dude.
In law, a precedent or authority is a legal case establishing a principle or rule that a court may need to adopt when deciding subsequent cases with similar issues or facts. The term may also refer to the collective body of case law that a court should consider when interpreting the law. When a precedent establishes an important legal principle, or represents new or changed law on a particular issue, that precedent is often known as a landmark decision.
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:11 PM   #47
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Imma have to agree with every word of that.


Don't allow a dangerous precedent to be set here Slick.
Now that is a scary thought!!!
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:12 PM   #48
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Others have pointed out that several other registrars have the same verbiage in their TOS. DirectNic is probably MORE adult friendly by going to the webmaster first instead of turning it over immediately to a government agency.
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for the first time EVER I totally agree with JTF... wtf is this world coming too
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:13 PM   #50
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In law, a precedent or authority is a legal case establishing a principle or rule that a court may need to adopt when deciding subsequent cases with similar issues or facts. The term may also refer to the collective body of case law that a court should consider when interpreting the law. When a precedent establishes an important legal principle, or represents new or changed law on a particular issue, that precedent is often known as a landmark decision.
Well we arent talking about a fucking courtroom now are we?


Read the whole definition dude.



prec·e·dent /n. ˈprɛsɪdənt; adj. prɪˈsidnt, ˈprɛsɪdənt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[n. pres-i-duhnt; adj. pri-seed-nt, pres-i-duhnt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
?noun 1. Law. a legal decision or form of proceeding serving as an authoritative rule or pattern in future similar or analogous cases.
2. any act, decision, or case that serves as a guide or justification for subsequent situations.







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