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Old 12-15-2006, 08:03 AM   #451
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From what I can see your not dead in the water... the only site I see down is MP.
rofl, you don't even know what dns cache is.
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Old 12-15-2006, 08:04 AM   #452
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I wish that was the case, but I only have 2 of my smaller sites up. The rest are down, especially my Amateur Curves and Thong Dreams which are my 2 flagship sites
:P must be my dns cache... I am showing about half of them up now.
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Can anyone please post cliff notes of this thread?
I really havnt got the time to read all of it.

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The best cliff note I ever read was in "Breakfast of Champions" by Kurt Vonnegut and was written on the tombstone:

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rofl, you don't even know what dns cache is.
If I need you to speak I'll rattle my zipper... k?
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Old 12-15-2006, 08:06 AM   #455
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No, I honestly think more people are surprised because Slick was running free hosted galleries and people are going after HIM for it and forgetting the fact that these sites that were being promoted, and in come cases even the thumbs, are provided by THE SPONSORS. I still fail to see how that makes Slick a CP slinger? I know he's very well known in the TGP community and people there are pretty shocked about what's gone down. He has always had a solid reputation for good business (from what I have heard, I don't know him personally but I do trust the people who have told me this).
If this case does go to court it doesn't really help his case. He might not be doing anything illegal but if a jury gets a whiff of this I doubt he'll get any support of any of them.

Aside from that I think he really should have approved all his trades manually, even if it does take a shitload of time. Trading with CP sites is equal to supporting them in my opinion and I doubt Slick meant to do that.

DN is way off base here, even if the domain featured CP they have no right closing his other sites which have no objectional content. They are trying to police something they have no authority over.
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If I need you to speak I'll rattle my zipper... k?
few posts ago you loved the taste of my cock (and Serge's ass)
do you wanna be a hypocrite now ?
you and Serge make a perfect match.

Just beware that Serge's asshole is watched by Pleasureplays
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The best cliff note I ever read was in "Breakfast of Champions" by Kurt Vonnegut and was written on the tombstone:

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Good one.



I'd like to get a summary of this thread though.
How the fuck could DirectNic take the guys domains away?
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I think that after all of this is said and done, I'm gonna find a professional that knows which sites are part of which Russian child porn ring and are cheating and hire them to manage all of my traffic and follow up with my current trades regularly to see what's going on.

I DO manually look at and activate my trades. I look over the site, click on about 10-15 links to see where my traffic is going to, then if the site has "that look", ya know the site you look at and just feel something wrong about it, I'll Google it and search a couple of boards like AskDamage to see if anything pops up. If nothing turns up, I activate it. If someone has a better method of doing it, please let me know.
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Good morning everyone. I'm just waking up and ready for another day of fun & excitemtent. I don't think I've been this stressed out in all of my life. All that I worked to build up for a good part of my life hangs in the balance, it could all be gone and my entire way of life could be fucked.

Going through some of the fresh posts in this thread, I like the one best that talks about us all sticking together in this. I've always been supportive of people in the past, but when I get put up against the wall, there's people up here at my throat.

If any one of you that looked at the thumbs on my page would click and check out the gallery and sponsor behind it, you'd see who they are. Most of them are every day sponsors on here, I don't promote shady sponsors on my sites or at least I don't think I do.
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I swear on the lives of myself, wife, and kids that there's no known child porn on my pages and judging by the support from the sponsors behind the content in question, they're ready to send the documentation over to me, so that shows that they are 18. Oh wait, someone is gonna say "Yeah, but are the documents real". In the case that you're one of those people, FUCK YOU !!
Slick i dont mean to be a dick hear but you kinda brought this on yourself. I mean look at your business model you setup. To be honest if i would come across your sites and the sites you were linked to i would report them too.

Now with the directnic issue they are cleary wrong on this. The proper thing for them to do was turn the complaint over to the authorites .


I noticed you said all these images were sponsor hosted. I hope for your sake as a father, husband and fellow webmaster all there 2257 documents are in order from these sponsors.

As for what people are saying on this board should be your last frigin worry. I cant belive your lawyer has not told you to stfu about this. Seriously man
you need to get off of here and keep your trap shut. Your freedom and your family can all be takin away from you. All it will take is one slip up of words and these folks will twist your shit around like you wont imagine.


Now with the linking issue to the other sites i have really no clue. I dont know about the laws regarding that. But i hope when this all said and done you really rethink your business model. I honestly dont think you have cp on there. But these laws are crazy so who knows what the outcome may be.

Slick good luck with all this shit going down. If you ever wanna just have someone to talk to to take your mind off things my icq is allway on.
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Thanks Lady Mischief, you speak a very good point there. I only host a thumbnail and link to the free hosted gallery behind it. If people have problems with it, why not confront them and have them show you the docmentation.

I do have faith in all of the sponsors that I promote. I feel that they are repitable people and do have the documents for all of their models.
You're welcome. I won't say that you didn't somewhat bring it on yourself with your method of marketing teens, but I will say that you are definitely not the only one who does it, there are much bigger fish in that particular market, and they are pushing the envelope more and harder every day. However the entire way this thing went down is absolutely mindboggling, and it's amazing to see how quick people jump on the bandwagon to lynch you without even checking into it.

From what I saw from webarchives, your sponsors were legit sponsors who pretty much all post here and/or have ads here. If people have real legitimate problems with the content that was on your site, why not ask the SPONSORS? In fact, there's a thread right now about TeenRevenue's new site and people are giving kudos? (please understand I'm not expressing my personal opinions, only laying out a scenario). All the people in here that are blasting you for "MAYBE" having CP, or saying that "Oh my but he's making them look younger", but I see none of those same people in those types of threads causing mayhem about it. Maybe they should re-examine their real motives here and if they're going to start a battle, do so with the "source" of their problems and frustrations. No wait, that would mean they would probably be shut down quickly, or maybe insult someone who's going to buy them drinks and take them out partying at the next show. No, they couldn't be bold enough to stand up for what they say they believe in.

The amount of hypocrasy flying around about this whole issue is unreal. Best of luck to you and your family in this difficult time. I hope you had a nestegg and can get things worked out.
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Wow what a fucking shocker!
This is absolutely unbelievable!!!
It absolutely breaks my heart to see Slicks legit sites down.

Ive known Slick for a while and he has never used shady sponsers. All the gals he listed were from well known sponsers.... sites that a LOT of ppl on this board push.

It is obscenely unfair to completely shut down his sites. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty in a court of law??

Good luck and don't give up.
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I think that after all of this is said and done, I'm gonna find a professional that knows which sites are part of which Russian child porn ring and are cheating...
As far as I see from your message. Do you mean that non-Russian child porn rings are ok with you?
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As far as I see from your message. Do you mean that non-Russian child porn rings are ok with you?
Reaching a little hard here are we? Why not go to the web-archives yourself and see what sponsors he was promoting on his site. I've done it and I have a full list. You are insinuating a lot for someone who hasn't done the research :P
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As far as I see from your message. Do you mean that non-Russian child porn rings are ok with you?
From your own sig, a site from the sponsor promoted.

http://www.nubileones.com/?nats=MDoxNzoxNg,0,0,0,0

Could perhaps some of those photos/thumbnails also be considered questionable? Please, be honest.

(I'm in no way implying anything other than what people's perceptions are, I have no idea who Real Cash are.)
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As far as I see from your message. Do you mean that non-Russian child porn rings are ok with you?
cyberxxx i dont think he was saying that one bit. Slick this is the type of shit im referring to. Stay the fuck off of here.....
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From your own sig, a site from the sponsor promoted.

http://www.nubileones.com/?nats=MDoxNzoxNg,0,0,0,0

Could perhaps some of those photos/thumbnails also be considered questionable? Please, be honest.
May be the could be for someone, but every model there has the right 2257 docs - be sure.

As abut my question. I told here many times: Please Stop Blaming a Whole Nation! It looks like Nazi's rhetoric.
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Most of them are every day sponsors on here, I don't promote shady sponsors on my sites or at least I don't think I do.
No offense, but this pretty much sums up your problems. "Most" and "I don't think I do".

This is BUSINESS. You should make sure ALL your trades are with with legitmate companies. You should make sure NONE of your trades are with "shady sponsors". And to be honest, you should have already had an attorney on speed dial from the minute you started business.
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May be the could be for someone, but every model there has the right 2257 docs - be sure.

As abut my question. I told here many times: Please Stop Blaming a Whole Nation! It looks like Nazi's rhetoric.

The point is, nobody would no for sure unless they checked right? Slick has already said the sponsors are stepping up to back him up. People are already putting a nail in his coffin assuming that he has got squat. Why not let the sponsors have the opportunity to provide him with what he needs, and then IF he comes up short, make it a problem. You are making a lot of assumptions, I'm simply showing you that isolating this one person out based on these (possibly incorrect) assumptions is putting the cart before the horse. Have you checked that list of sponsors yet (and many of the fhgs listed have 2257 info RIGHT ON THEM).
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May be the could be for someone, but every model there has the right 2257 docs - be sure.

As abut my question. I told here many times: Please Stop Blaming a Whole Nation! It looks like Nazi's rhetoric.
Do you have the 2257 docs in hand just incase or is this sponsor content?
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I'm so tired to repeat once again and again. Not all Russias are cheaters, not all Jews are reach people, not all black people are gangsters etc... The only think I'm asking for here: please be a bit more correct regarding other nations.

As about the Slick's TGP case. I believe I already told here that I don't like the way directNIC is acting against him, and I'm totally agree with http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/F....asp?coid=1014
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TampaToker and LadyMischief, are you sane people? Where do you think I was saying that Slick must have the sponsor's docs or something like that?

The only thing I said: "STOP BLAMING RUSSIANS for everything!" There are lots of good and bad guys in EVERY NATION. That's all I wanted to say.
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No offense, but this pretty much sums up your problems. "Most" and "I don't think I do".

This is BUSINESS. You should make sure ALL your trades are with with legitmate companies. You should make sure NONE of your trades are with "shady sponsors". And to be honest, you should have already had an attorney on speed dial from the minute you started business.
This gives DirectNic the right to steal his domains?

You should stfu but i know you wont
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Ignore Peaches, she looks like a full time DN employee by now.
RawAlex should be in shortly. I think he needs a longer sleep after 3 days of posting.
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TampaToker and LadyMischief, are you sane people? Where do you think I was saying that Slick must have the sponsor's docs or something like that?

The only thing I said: "STOP BLAMING RUSSIANS for everything!" There are lots of good and bad guys in EVERY NATION. That's all I wanted to say.
Who was blaming russians for anything? All i was getting at was getting at is someone could make the same complaint about your site and you could be in the same boat...
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No, I'm one of those crazy people who recognizes this as a business, not a hobby.

You might want to check Slavick's post on the Directnic comments thread - it seems it's state dependent on if you own the domains or not.

But again, that would involve knowing the laws of the business that you run, not the hobby you make beer money with.
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Hey Slick, I know you pushed my program some from a couple of your sites. I don't know what thumbs were in question, but if you ever need ID's showing DOB (with no address/name) from me, I'll get them to you without issue.

Good luck and I hope you pull through this okay. I hope you sue DirectNIC for enough to not have to even worry about the sites anymore. I fucking hate strong arm businesses, they should have let you move your domains to another registrar and if they felt the need, report you to authorities. Which in itself is idiotic for a "porn" guy like MikeAI, since he knows that those sponsors aren't pushing CP.
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I think that after all of this is said and done, I'm gonna find a professional that knows which sites are part of which Russian child porn ring and are cheating and hire them to manage all of my traffic and follow up with my current trades regularly to see what's going on.

I DO manually look at and activate my trades. I look over the site, click on about 10-15 links to see where my traffic is going to, then if the site has "that look", ya know the site you look at and just feel something wrong about it, I'll Google it and search a couple of boards like AskDamage to see if anything pops up. If nothing turns up, I activate it. If someone has a better method of doing it, please let me know.
Slick, truth is that you didn't do a very good job on this, because site(s) directly first click from you were shut down. This isn't sites two clicks away or three clicks away... but the sites immediately attached to your site.

I understand the desire for more and more traffic, better and better trades, after all, you were skimming, what, 95%? You would need huge traffic numbers to generate almost any traffic to sponsor galleries at all. I checked the history of your site on Alexa and the wayback machine, and every time you made the models look younger, every time they looking skinnier, every time you accepted a trade for "gall 17" and "young virgins", your traffic went up.

I can see what happened.

Good luck to you, I hope that your next round of sites is MILF or something else like that.
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No, I'm one of those crazy people who recognizes this as a business, not a hobby.

You might want to check Slavick's post on the Directnic comments thread - it seems it's state dependent on if you own the domains or not.

But again, that would involve knowing the laws of the business that you run, not the hobby you make beer money with.
And you seem to make judgments from what you read on GFY without doing your own research. Have you contacted YOUR lawyer regarding this issue yet? I know I've requested 3 opinions from council.
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Ignore Peaches, she looks like a full time DN employee by now.
RawAlex should be in shortly. I think he needs a longer sleep after 3 days of posting.
Actually, I am in business, and i had a meeting with accountants this morning to plan year end. Yeah, actual corporate year end. Sorry to disappoint you and not be able to sit here this morning and play games with you.

Serge already has you on ignore. Proof that he is more intelligent than the rest of us, I guess.
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And you seem to make judgments from what you read on GFY without doing your own research. Have you contacted YOUR lawyer regarding this issue yet? I know I've requested 3 opinions from council.
I don't have any pictures on my sites. And I know 100% that I'm linking only to legitmate sites. My lawyer verified this for me back when I first redid them all - when he advised me as a possible secondary producer to remove pictures from my sites - just in case. He didn't want me to be a test case.

I have zero reason to contact him now about this. Hell, I have him working on something much more important financially
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Old 12-15-2006, 09:51 AM   #485
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Slick, truth is that you didn't do a very good job on this, because site(s) directly first click from you were shut down. This isn't sites two clicks away or three clicks away... but the sites immediately attached to your site.

I understand the desire for more and more traffic, better and better trades, after all, you were skimming, what, 95%? You would need huge traffic numbers to generate almost any traffic to sponsor galleries at all. I checked the history of your site on Alexa and the wayback machine, and every time you made the models look younger, every time they looking skinnier, every time you accepted a trade for "gall 17" and "young virgins", your traffic went up.

I can see what happened.

Good luck to you, I hope that your next round of sites is MILF or something else like that.

you nailed it!
good post!
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Who was blaming russians for anything?
I meant the words "Russian child porn rings".

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All i was getting at was getting at is someone could make the same complaint about your site and you could be in the same boat...
I didn't say something opposed to yours. Furthermore, I always was saing it's very dangerous precedent in Slick's case. I.e. I totally agree with you and don't see a reason to argue about.
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Old 12-15-2006, 09:52 AM   #487
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I don't have any pictures on my sites. And I know 100% that I'm linking only to legitmate sites. My lawyer verified this for me back when I first redid them all - when he advised me as a possible secondary producer to remove pictures from my sites - just in case. He didn't want me to be a test case.

I have zero reason to contact him now about this. Hell, I have him working on something much more important financially
... and yet, you continue like you've done any research.
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Hey Slick, I know you pushed my program some from a couple of your sites. I don't know what thumbs were in question, but if you ever need ID's showing DOB (with no address/name) from me, I'll get them to you without issue.

Good luck and I hope you pull through this okay. I hope you sue DirectNIC for enough to not have to even worry about the sites anymore. I fucking hate strong arm businesses, they should have let you move your domains to another registrar and if they felt the need, report you to authorities. Which in itself is idiotic for a "porn" guy like MikeAI, since he knows that those sponsors aren't pushing CP.


Awesome... More sponsors should publically support slick like this... it's YOUR content people are attacking. However, even if sponsors are just doing their part by helping the guy out privately, that's awesome too. Good to see.
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I meant the words "Russian child porn rings".
It was a generalization, there are child porn rings everywhere, but people tend to think "Russia" when they think child porn ring. Don't take it personally, there's bad apples everywhere.
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I don't have any pictures on my sites. And I know 100% that I'm linking only to legitmate sites. My lawyer verified this for me back when I first redid them all - when he advised me as a possible secondary producer to remove pictures from my sites - just in case. He didn't want me to be a test case.

I have zero reason to contact him now about this. Hell, I have him working on something much more important financially
I thought this was about the thumbs on SLICK'S sites... now suddenly it's about who he was linking to? Why are people backpeddalling if they are so damn convinced they are right? First he's the one doing it, then it's the sites he's linking to? Seriously, think logically about all this.
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jact, what exactly did you ask your legal advisers?

"There is this guy with a site full of girls that look young linking to real CP sites, and his registrar might or mght not have had something a contact or a complaint or a court order or we don't know what and then well, then they ask for proof the models were legal and the guy didn't get a lawyer but he got on a chat board and then he got a lawyer and they something happened I don't know what and then the next day the domains didn't work anymore... is this legal?"

wow.
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Sheesh.. do the "opinionated" ever shut the fuck up??

Good morning to you Slick and hope you make some progress today in getting the background cleared up

As for DirectNic fans, there's "CP" on the moon, fly up quick along with DN and purport to protect the public morals there.
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Actually, I am in business, and i had a meeting with accountants this morning to plan year end. Yeah, actual corporate year end. Sorry to disappoint you and not be able to sit here this morning and play games with you.

Serge already has you on ignore. Proof that he is more intelligent than the rest of us, I guess.
I bet you'll be here all day

Also to create credibility you have to invoke the name of a person that has some authority.
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I thought this was about the thumbs on SLICK'S sites... now suddenly it's about who he was linking to? Why are people backpeddalling if they are so damn convinced they are right? First he's the one doing it, then it's the sites he's linking to? Seriously, think logically about all this.
I was responding to SLICK'S post. HE'S the one that talked about linking and ergo, those are the points I responded to.
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Sheesh.. do the "opinionated" ever shut the fuck up??

*cough*

Collect call for kettle, from pot... do you accept the charges?

*cough*
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I bet you'll be here all day

Also to create credibility you have to invoke the name of a person that has some authority.
Yup. So I most certainly wouldn't use your name, unless I was looking for an authority on flipping burgers.
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*cough*

Collect call for kettle, from pot... do you accept the charges?

*cough*
*splutter*

Tut tut... how pathetic - seriously Alex.

What exactly is your rant about this isssue???? What point are you trying to make??
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I´m not a DN customer, however each time I checked one of the slick sites in question, and started to click on links, then I got webpages from the danish police and my ISP saying that the url was blocked due to potential CP.

Didn´t really bring confidence to the argument that these sites were not catering to CP.
it doesn't really matter, DN are not allowed by law to act as vigilantes.

If you owned a bar and some guy was selling drugs out of the bathroom do you think the real estate agent that sold you the property would have the right to close you down?
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... and yet, you continue like you've done any research.
Continue what? Go back and read my posts in this thread. I've said that if DirectNic was in error, they deserve to be sued. Period.

Everything else I've commented on has been directly in response to what YOU guys are saying, lol. My lawyer told me years ago that a TOS can be enforced even if it contains items that aren't covered by state/federal law.

And over and over again I hear "They should have just turned this over to the authorities" which says to me, instead of wanting DirectNic to give Slick the head's up, you'd rather the FBI knock on his door. The guy didn't even HAVE AN ATTORNEY. He came HERE looking for one. Might be a little more difficult to ask GFY for attorney recommendations from a cell.
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