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Old 12-15-2006, 05:14 AM   #401
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You cant be that stupid surely ?
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Who is in charge of "Webmasters auctions" nowadays?
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We might be able to get Boyalley to auction his sig for you

I can offer the pic for the auction with my authograph!
(the one of me naked got fetched $5000 the last time ;)

Here is the pic I'd donate:
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If Slick gets all his documentation and a good lawyer, he'll be getting a nice big check from DirectNic.

...and "200 bottles of beer on the wall, 200 bottles of beer..."

I was always wondering, in whose favor the jury of the peers rule the case:
"webmaster who runs sites trading links with bona fide Child Pornographers" or Registar who does it best to prevent the spread of Child Pornography?

Any ideas?
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...and "200 bottles of beer on the wall, 200 bottles of beer..."

I was always wondering, in whose favor the jury of the peers rule the case:
"webmaster who runs sites trading links with bona fide Child Pornographers" or Registar who does it best to prevent the spread of Child Pornography?

Any ideas?
You think the judge won't ever ask DN
Who the fuck put you in charge ?
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DN screwed up and shot themselves in the foot, they've opened up for a lawsuit and lost the confidence of their customers (or part of them at least)
I´m not a DN customer, however each time I checked one of the slick sites in question, and started to click on links, then I got webpages from the danish police and my ISP saying that the url was blocked due to potential CP.

Didn´t really bring confidence to the argument that these sites were not catering to CP.
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I´m not a DN customer, however each time I checked one of the slick sites in question, and started to click on links, then I got webpages from the danish police and my ISP saying that the url was blocked due to potential CP.

Didn´t really bring confidence to the argument that these sites were not catering to CP.
POTENTIAL! Nobody has proved shit yet, but this guy's business has been completely brought to it's knees, and I see NOBODY trying to help move POTENTIAL into PROOF. What a load of BS, I hope Slick sues.
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You think the judge won't ever ask DN
Who the fuck put you in charge ?

Little idiot,
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Judges in USA conduct the trials and render sentences in jury trials.

Now you have 20 mins to educate yourself and fuck off.
(you may exersize your free will and do it in the reverse order, I don't mind)
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, I hope Slick sues.
me too!
I even wrote the opening remark for him:

"Dear members of the jury,
as evidence will show, the child pornography on my client's site was not real,
and only confusingly similar. The links to the shut down child porn sites were there without full knowledge of my client, and put by gremlins fed after dark"
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Little idiot,
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Judges in USA conduct the trials and render sentences in jury trials.

Now you have 20 mins to educate yourself and fuck off.
(you may exersize your free will and do it in the reverse order, I don't mind)
Listen, Old Fart
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How about you spare us with your comments as we all know were you come from and how much shit you've pulled.
Now, fuck off.
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Listen, Old Fart
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How about you spare us with your comments as we all know were you come from and how much shit you've pulled.
Now, fuck off.
make me, if you can. I have another 30 years ahead of me with nothing else to do but call morons "morons".

Now, as Pleasurepays would say, to the important things:
how big is your asshole?
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Now, as Pleasurepays would say, to the important things:
how big is your asshole?
does Pleasurepays asks you often how big is your asshole ?
I didn't know he was checking on you.
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Little idiot,
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Judges in USA conduct the trials and render sentences in jury trials.
Can defendants in the USA not request trial by judge? Which might be the smart way to go in a case like this.
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Can defendants in the USA not request trial by judge? Which might be the smart way to go in a case like this.
In civil cases, yes, but...if Slick sues DN, DN will ask for jury trial, trust me on that
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The facts are Slick here has about as much chance of sueing DN and getting money from them as I have of getting Serge amitting he was wrong about something.

I guess most of you people have never been to court and still believe in justus and black and white cases.

fact one even the mere mention of CP will have have most people thinking any action is justified.

fact 2 it looks like this guy cant afford a serious lawyer anyways.

fact 3 DN can.
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In civil cases, yes, but...if Slick sues DN, DN will ask for jury trial, trust me on that
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Ah yeah okay. In that case DN would be the defendant and would have the choice. I was thinking more if Slick was being prosecuted for 2257 violations where HE would be the defendant. I would think he could then ask for trial by judge too, but I could be wrong.
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The facts are Slick here has about as much chance of sueing DN and getting money from them as I have of getting Serge amitting he was wrong about something.
Bad example:
hmmm....I was wrong! once.

I thought shaving everybody 15% was good enough,
while the market could EASILY bear 20% shave!
as today's stats prove beyond the reasonable doubts
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Ah yeah okay. In that case DN would be the defendant and would have the choice. I was thinking more if Slick was being prosecuted for 2257 violations where HE would be the defendant. I would think he could then ask for trial by judge too, but I could be wrong.
I don't think 2257 prosecution falls under "civil", it could be "criminal",
I honestly don't know. Unlike the rest of the GFY, I am not a lawyer, don't play one on TV and very rarely stay at Holiday Inn express.
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Ah yeah okay. In that case DN would be the defendant and would have the choice. I was thinking more if Slick was being prosecuted for 2257 violations where HE would be the defendant. I would think he could then ask for trial by judge too, but I could be wrong.
Actually, in THAT case, trial by jury would still be better. IF the government had the gall to prosecute him for CP distribution without any hard evidence AND he could walk into court with the ID's, then I'd go for a judge trial...assuming of course that that's possible.
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What amazes me, is that they did shut down ALL his domains....Not just the 'domain in question'
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Bad example:
hmmm....I was wrong! once.

I thought shaving everybody 15% was good enough,
while the market could EASILY bear 20% shave!
as today's stats prove beyond the reasonable doubts
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Serge, you really crack me up
I liked your postings all the way back when you were all over ynotmasters in 1997
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I don't think 2257 prosecution falls under "civil", it could be "criminal",
I honestly don't know. Unlike the rest of the GFY, I am not a lawyer, don't play one on TV and very rarely stay at Holiday Inn express.
Because you, like I, weren't sure and you may want to know...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_procedure

In a criminal case, the government generally brings charges in one of two ways: either by accusing a suspect directly in a "bill of information" or other similar document, or by bringing evidence before a grand jury to allow that body to determine whether the case should proceed. If there is, then the defendant is indicted. In the federal system, a case must be brought before a grand jury for indictment if it is to proceed; some states, however, do not require indictment. Once charges have been brought, the case is then brought before a petit jury, or is tried by a judge if the defense requests it.
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POTENTIAL! Nobody has proved shit yet, but this guy's business has been completely brought to it's knees, and I see NOBODY trying to help move POTENTIAL into PROOF. What a load of BS, I hope Slick sues.
Please excuse my politeness... since "I" do not have any physical proof about the sites blocked, then I said potential. But I´m certain the danish police have had their reasons to block the sites. Denmark is one of the most liberal countries in the world, when it comes to nudity, sex and porn, so it has to be VERY fucked to get banned.

I got several different urls, which were blocked - how can several of these CP trades just be oversights?
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Serge, you really crack me up
I liked your postings all the way back when you were all over ynotmasters in 1997

Back in a day it wasn't called Ynotmasters, it was Ynot Network.

FM and me still laugh and cry over those "battles"
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this is bogus.

fuck directnic.

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First Amendment attorney and Free Speech Coalition Chairman Jeffrey Douglas said the ID request is unprecedented, and more importantly, a violation of privacy laws. According to Douglas, the request is illegal, and also could have a chilling effect on the free speech of webmasters that deal in legal teen content.

?This is a blatant and absolute violation of privacy laws,? Douglas told XBIZ. ?There?s absolutely no legal liability for the registrar if underage models appear on a website. DirectNIC is an officious intermeddler.?
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Please excuse my politeness... since "I" do not have any physical proof about the sites blocked, then I said potential. But I´m certain the danish police have had their reasons to block the sites. Denmark is one of the most liberal countries in the world, when it comes to nudity, sex and porn, so it has to be VERY fucked to get banned.

I got several different urls, which were blocked - how can several of these CP trades just be oversights?
I thought the sites where blocked for thumbs on the TGP pages, not links. The issue is that DN wants 2257 info for the THUMBS on the sites, as i recall it links where not mentioned. I could be wrong though.

The Danish police don't even come into play here, only DN.
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FM and me still laugh and cry over those "battles"
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yep, you are correct, it was ynot network, has been a long time already and was so much more fun than today. A lot of the now "established" guys got quite a beating back then.
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Please excuse my politeness... since "I" do not have any physical proof about the sites blocked, then I said potential. But I´m certain the danish police have had their reasons to block the sites. Denmark is one of the most liberal countries in the world, when it comes to nudity, sex and porn, so it has to be VERY fucked to get banned.

I got several different urls, which were blocked - how can several of these CP trades just be oversights?

Should be interesting.. I didn't say they were oversights, but from what I saw in the web archives the gal's listed were from sponsors (I see the banner of one flying at the top of GFY right now) that everyone knows don't do "CP". Teen content, and edgy content some of it, I still don't see how that justifies going after the network promoting it and not the sites? Boggles my mind. And how come if Slick was promoting that kind of stuff, the Feds haven't been on his doorstep yet? One would think if there was an active investigation, and the actions of DirectNIC were due to that kind of a reason, the authorities would have been knocking on Slick's door by now? It just doesn't all add up, that's all.
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I thought the sites where blocked for thumbs on the TGP pages, not links. The issue is that DN wants 2257 info for the THUMBS on the sites, as i recall it links where not mentioned. I could be wrong though.

The Danish police don't even come into play here, only DN.
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You think running porn sites which are confusingly similar to child pornography is the ONLY way to make a living in this world?

I have a big news for you:
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Get education, find the job, something millions of Americans do every year.
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First off you being 3 years older than me doesnt give you the right to call me "kid" Secondly are you saying a domain name is not property? Think there was some case recently where some guy who lost a domain for years and years got it returned to him. Hmm now what domain was that. lol Someone go tell that judge to reverse the ruling cause PleasurePays doubts it.

A company can write that if you break their tos you have to lick a kangaroos pussy. Does that make it law? lmfao.


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I thought the sites where blocked for thumbs on the TGP pages, not links. The issue is that DN wants 2257 info for the THUMBS on the sites, as i recall it links where not mentioned. I could be wrong though.

The Danish police don't even come into play here, only DN.
People are saying there is no reason to belive that slick sites were catering to CP, but almost everyone who has seen the sites agree that the girls are made to look younger than they are (I really hope they every one of them are of legal age), and when clicking on those thumbs people were either sent to a fhg OR a trade partner. If these trade partners are having CP, then I can´t think its legal (i´m not a lawyer), since he gets paid back with traffic from the same sites - just because there is no money involved doesn´t put it outside "who benefits from the crime". Of course he can say he knew nothing about those CP links, but with girls made to look younger than they are, and with many different links to CP sites, then that argument is vague

Again Denmark has some of the most relaxed laws on this planet, when it come to nudity, sex and porn... its not the taliban blocking those CP sites, but the country which was the first to legalize porn on this planet. It has to be fucked up to get blocked.
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your an asshole dude, stfu.
yes, I am, but I am not an imbeccile like you are.

What do you think is worse?

There is a new law in Congress prohibiting imbeciles from having children and intercourse. I hope it passes.
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Old 12-15-2006, 07:33 AM   #438
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because I outed you about the shit traffic you were sending
thx for the sig spot. ;) Not really the place for this post but since you brought it up...

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gallbase.com -> goth-fetish.com (998 hits 1 click)
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[13:11] nation-x: hey
[13:11] nation-x: can I get you to email the ip log to nation-x(at)artgps.com
[13:12] nation-x: I posted... but I thought the trade had died and you had deleted it...
[13:12] nation-x: so I deleted it a couple of days ago
[13:12] darksoul: the trade died because I deleted it
[13:12] nation-x: well... someone must be hitbotting my toplist... I don't cheat
[13:13] nation-x: do you have the ip log?
[13:13] darksoul: I deleted the trade, not sure if at3 keeps the logs
[13:13] darksoul: but I've only got 1 click in two weeks
[13:13] nation-x: jesus christ
[13:14] nation-x: well this is why I decided to start redirecting
[13:15] nation-x: :P
[13:23] nation-x: what other trade are you talking about?
[13:23] darksoul: thumbdetective - babeem
don't play fool
you killed it after I disabled gallbase
[13:24] nation-x: no I didn't...
[13:24] darksoul: yea,it just happened
[13:25] nation-x: I do remember we had a trade there but removing babeem had nothing to do with gallbase... and I don't think I have had babeem on thumbdetective for a couple of months
[13:25] nation-x: honestly I forgot it was your site
[13:26] nation-x: I run over 100 sites man...
[13:26] darksoul: I'm sorry but I'm not eating this bs
it died the next day I disabled gallbase
[13:26] nation-x: lol... whatever man
[13:26] nation-x: I never remove good trades
[13:29] nation-x: I just recently schanged scripts too... so I may have accidently missed it when I was copying over trades
[13:30] nation-x: I just switched from STT to sloth
[13:30] nation-x: like 3 days ago
[13:30] darksoul: its more than 3 days ago when it happened
[13:30] darksoul: but whatever
[13:31] nation-x: well... I don't want you to think it's even like that... I would have hit you on ICQ
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Old 12-15-2006, 07:41 AM   #439
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thx for the sig spot. ;) Not really the place for this post but since you brought it up...
and your post proves what ?
you know you got the same trade history with others too
and like I have already said, if you were hitbotted means you haven't sent
shit in two weeks ?

Cry me a river.
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ok... can I lick the right one too and maybe sneak in a few minutes of sucking your cock? Do you like to have your asshole played with while you get a blowjob? I can do that to... hit me up... we'll get together.
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ok... can I lick the right one too and maybe sneak in a few minutes of sucking your cock? Do you like to have your asshole played with while you get a blowjob? I can do that to... hit me up... we'll get together.

I thought you're a bit smarter than that.
That sig is generated per user and only you see that message
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Old 12-15-2006, 07:49 AM   #442
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People are saying there is no reason to belive that slick sites were catering to CP, but almost everyone who has seen the sites agree that the girls are made to look younger than they are (I really hope they every one of them are of legal age), and when clicking on those thumbs people were either sent to a fhg OR a trade partner. If these trade partners are having CP, then I can´t think its legal (i´m not a lawyer), since he gets paid back with traffic from the same sites - just because there is no money involved doesn´t put it outside "who benefits from the crime". Of course he can say he knew nothing about those CP links, but with girls made to look younger than they are, and with many different links to CP sites, then that argument is vague

Again Denmark has some of the most relaxed laws on this planet, when it come to nudity, sex and porn... its not the taliban blocking those CP sites, but the country which was the first to legalize porn on this planet. It has to be fucked up to get blocked.

No, I honestly think more people are surprised because Slick was running free hosted galleries and people are going after HIM for it and forgetting the fact that these sites that were being promoted, and in come cases even the thumbs, are provided by THE SPONSORS. I still fail to see how that makes Slick a CP slinger? I know he's very well known in the TGP community and people there are pretty shocked about what's gone down. He has always had a solid reputation for good business (from what I have heard, I don't know him personally but I do trust the people who have told me this).
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That sig is generated per user and only you see that message
Why? Are you ashamed of my affinity for licking your left nut? Might as well make it public...

I thought it was funny that you were on his ignore list because I'm not the only one that thinks your a goof.
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Old 12-15-2006, 07:55 AM   #444
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Can anyone please post cliff notes of this thread?
I really havnt got the time to read all of it.

Thank you.
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Old 12-15-2006, 07:55 AM   #445
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Good morning everyone. I'm just waking up and ready for another day of fun & excitemtent. I don't think I've been this stressed out in all of my life. All that I worked to build up for a good part of my life hangs in the balance, it could all be gone and my entire way of life could be fucked.

Going through some of the fresh posts in this thread, I like the one best that talks about us all sticking together in this. I've always been supportive of people in the past, but when I get put up against the wall, there's people up here at my throat.

If any one of you that looked at the thumbs on my page would click and check out the gallery and sponsor behind it, you'd see who they are. Most of them are every day sponsors on here, I don't promote shady sponsors on my sites or at least I don't think I do.

I swear on the lives of myself, wife, and kids that there's no known child porn on my pages and judging by the support from the sponsors behind the content in question, they're ready to send the documentation over to me, so that shows that they are 18. Oh wait, someone is gonna say "Yeah, but are the documents real". In the case that you're one of those people, FUCK YOU !!
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Good morning everyone. I'm just waking up and ready for another day of fun & excitemtent. I don't think I've been this stressed out in all of my life. All that I worked to build up for a good part of my life hangs in the balance, it could all be gone and my entire way of life could be fucked.
From what I can see your not dead in the water... the only site I see down is MP.
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No, I honestly think more people are surprised because Slick was running free hosted galleries and people are going after HIM for it and forgetting the fact that these sites that were being promoted, and in come cases even the thumbs, are provided by THE SPONSORS. I still fail to see how that makes Slick a CP slinger? I know he's very well known in the TGP community and people there are pretty shocked about what's gone down. He has always had a solid reputation for good business (from what I have heard, I don't know him personally but I do trust the people who have told me this).
Thanks Lady Mischief, you speak a very good point there. I only host a thumbnail and link to the free hosted gallery behind it. If people have problems with it, why not confront them and have them show you the docmentation.

I do have faith in all of the sponsors that I promote. I feel that they are repitable people and do have the documents for all of their models.
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From what I can see your not dead in the water... the only site I see down is MP.
I wish that was the case, but I only have 2 of my smaller sites up. The rest are down, especially my Amateur Curves and Thong Dreams which are my 2 flagship sites
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Why? Are you ashamed of my affinity for licking your left nut? Might as well make it public...

I thought it was funny that you were on his ignore list because I'm not the only one that thinks your a goof.
he is not a goof, he is a time waster and no money in the world can buy time.

Life is too short to waste it on cretins with no possibility of cure.

ahhhh...another top of the page,
I'm getting better tnad better at that
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wow 9 pages already, can somebody please write an executive summary of what's been going on?
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