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Old 12-25-2006, 11:11 PM   #51
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Old 12-25-2006, 11:24 PM   #52
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wait anyone can sign up to be a site reviewer. Does this mean i can sign up and write bad shit about sites i dont like?

Probably
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Old 12-26-2006, 02:11 AM   #53
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Old 12-26-2006, 02:27 AM   #54
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Old 12-26-2006, 06:04 AM   #55
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Wow.

I am amazed by the poor business sense of many of you that posted here.

Some of you are so sure that you are right and that you know what code is on each and every page of their entire site. Must be great to have web xray vision.

Even funnier are those that question is the if some of the site is "evil" why should the whole site be rated poorly. I would love to know where you guys bank.

Even if they have had the wool pulled over their eyes by fake ratings, a bad rating effects sites linking to it.

BTW as SEs become more and more effected by social ratings and data mining so will the SE traffic. Those that don't understand this will still believe different class C blocks will keep them safe for another 2 years.
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Old 12-26-2006, 06:46 AM   #56
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Some of you are so sure that you are right and that you know what code is on each and every page of their entire site.

Im sure there are no exploits on any Epic site. That I'm SURE of. Well, that and the fact you are clueless.
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:03 AM   #57
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Im sure there are no exploits on any Epic site. That I'm SURE of. Well, that and the fact you are clueless.
You caught me.

My 30 years of commercial programming experience in banks, the aerospace industry, retail and wholesale distribution, my own sites and customers sites is a scam.

Since I have been in adult since 2001 I have made $24.38 cents and I still live in my parents basement.

When I have given expert testimony in court which I was paid for in relation to computer crimes and IP theft I had no idea what I was talking about.

Your are the best at smoking out fakes.
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:06 AM   #58
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:22 AM   #59
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Try a test signup. Sit back and wait.

I am far from believing everything I read on the net - especially here. I would never make a post like this without what I would consider MAJOR proof to insulate myself.
So where is it?

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I would consider McAfee one of the best experts on exploits and spam - more so than 99.999% of the people who post here and so would a court of law.
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I am about to add processing to some of my sites and if I don't know about this I am sure my bank would have refused me...




Complete and utter bullshit post.

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Old 12-26-2006, 07:40 AM   #60
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yeah and im sure McAfee makes test signups on all programs just to see if they get spammed
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Real-Bucks.com News [email protected] 2006 September
So they signed up as affiliates for Real-Bucks.com (there is no other way to enter your email) and have received the regular webmaster newsletters. Course those news letters are not a spam because every webmaster can subscribe/unsubscribe for this service in the member area. But the fact is: McAfee makes test signups on all programs just to see if they get spammed.

P.S. I don't want to participate in this war against EpicCash, but I just wanted to show what McAfee is really do.
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:44 AM   #61
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Complete and utter bullshit post.
You are laughable.

You are a lier. Proven by the post that shows the email form on your site. Your attitude shows clearly here. People who continue to work with the likes of you will get what they deserve.

What do you pay for processing? Not what I am going to. My bank does a full check from D&B, vising my place of business (done already) to checking the sites. Since I have many that interlink I did my due diligence and found this problem.

Some webmasters look at the big picture and are in it for the long haul and appreciate knowing that they can be effected by putting links on their sites to Epic as I was. Now I will see how long it will take for them to put me back where I belong - safe and secure with no excessive spam.

I would practice saying "would you like fries with that?" if I were you.

Bottom line.
You got a shit rating. Fix it or just keep doing what you are doing - I couldn't care less as I am done with Epic and done with this thread.
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:56 PM   #63
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Old 12-26-2006, 08:32 PM   #64
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Old 12-26-2006, 08:42 PM   #65
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Why do you?
Dipshit, gimme your ID, or shut up.


I don't think you've ever sent a fucking thimble full of fucking traffic to Epic and even if you have, it was shit. No one is buying your whole "I'm Le3t" act and you're a fucking big mouthed idiot with an agenda. Duh.



Dude I tried being nice to you. You made no effort to take that in the proper spirit so fuck you.


Fuck you.


















And fuck you again.
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:21 PM   #66
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I don't think you've ever sent a fucking thimble full of fucking traffic to Epic and even if you have, it was shit. No one is buying your whole "I'm Le3t" act and you're a fucking big mouthed idiot with an agenda. Duh.
Asswipe (no insults to asses intended) even if I didn't sign up for your program your company is black balled by one of the largest internet security companies because EPIC Cash and Epic gals Exploits users computers and can hurt everyone linking to any of your programs.

You lied about an email form - proven right here in this thread.

You are attacking me for showing what I found that an independent source said with links.

Why are you attacking me?

I won't be able to be proven to be a liar or have an agenda. Want to know who I have ever outed in the biz? Simple here is the list:

Cyberpimp: Non payment, closed shop and ran away.
Mogul: Closed shop and ran away
Epic Cash: Hurst surfers by exploiting their computers and thus hurts all affiliates by linking to them
...and yes I did mention in this thread that Silvercash never paid my bank fees after bouncing a check on me.

You are confronted with the fact that your actions are such that hurt affiliates and surfers and further degrade the reputation of all programs and webmasters in the industry due to scummy practices and what do you do? You lie and attack me.

Tsk Tsk,

Remember to upsell - "would you like me to supersize that meal?" You may make employee of the month at McDonald's.

Get it through your thick skull that there is nothing to "work out with me". I have no interest in your exploiting program.
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:35 PM   #67
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I don't think you've ever sent a fucking thimble full of fucking traffic to Epic and even if you have, it was shit.
...and when a girl blows you off she is a lesbian right?


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Old 12-26-2006, 09:40 PM   #68
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Why dont you just call Jim on the phone and talk this out like a human being.Biggest problem in this biz is lack of communication. ICQ jim, get his #, call him, work it out.
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:50 PM   #69
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Why dont you just call Jim on the phone and talk this out like a human being.Biggest problem in this biz is lack of communication. ICQ jim, get his #, call him, work it out.
I agree the lack of communication hurts but tell me, why would I ever want to work with a program that lies? If Mcfee is 100% wrong it does not excuse the fact that the Epic Cash rep lied.

I brought it to a public forum because when someone else is endangering others we should all know. This is not a "I think Epic Cash is shaving" or "I think Epic cash has underage girls and boys". This is a fact that linking to Epic Cash has effected my security rankings and will affect you if you link to them and they don't correct the problem.

Customer trust and search engine results which will depend more and more on trust are key components in my business model. It should be in everyones.
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Interesting that of so wrong that the owners of this program never left a comment:

epicgals.com
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When we browsed this site, it made unauthorized changes to our test PC.

Are you the owner of this site? Leave a comment
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Old 12-27-2006, 06:49 AM   #71
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After entering our e-mail address on this site, we received 28 e-mails per week. They were very spammy.[/B]


28 Fucking Emails a week...are you fucking Nigerian?

ROFL! What the fuck did u expect from Epic
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site advisor isnt really reliable when it comes to sponsored programs, i am sure 75% of the sponsors out their are listed, and i doubt any of them have real issues
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http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/google.com

Google sends out 23 spam emails a week fuck wonder how I never noticed that one?

http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/microsoft.com

Microsoft I always new they were up to something
This site is good (207)
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Everyone remove all google listings we don't want to fuck the surfers and if you could ask them all to use linux or a mac as microsoft are out to scam them and give them viruses


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You need to stop calling me a liar you ignorant fuck. If you'll READ your own fucking thread, you'll see that I simply asked you to show me where the addys were being collected.

Let me say this again since you are apparently illiterate:

Epic does NOT run ANY sort of browser "exploit" and never has. I don't give a rats ass WHAT that piece of shit Mcafee says. Again, if you'll READ this thread you'll see that several people (even ones that have no love lost with Epic) are of the opinion that Mcafee Site Advisor is unreliable at best.

I need you to provide some substantial proof of what you are claiming or I need you to shut the fuck up.

You're nobody and I've wasted far too much of my time with you. I am now going to go work with some affiliates who are capable of sending MORE than one join a month.

Bye.
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http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/google.com

Google sends out 23 spam emails a week fuck wonder how I never noticed that one?

http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/microsoft.com

Microsoft I always new they were up to something
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Everyone remove all google listings we don't want to fuck the surfers and if you could ask them all to use linux or a mac as microsoft are out to scam them and give them viruses


That is all
this post speaks volumes....i suppose you dont want to associate with them either susheboy?
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isnt sending email the general idea of ALL 4free sites?


i guess they dont get the model....
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e-mail tests for epicgals.com: 28 spammy e-mails/week

After entering our e-mail address on this site, we received 28 e-mails per week. They were very spammy.[/B]
I don't think the people who entered in their email for "free access" was expecting 28 emails a week in return.


You can always spot the epic cash owned sites and their supporters. All you have to do is start a thread bashing epiccash and they all come flocking to it, blindly defending them.
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You caught me.

My 30 years of commercial programming experience in banks, the aerospace industry, retail and wholesale distribution, my own sites and customers sites is a scam.

Since I have been in adult since 2001 I have made $24.38 cents and I still live in my parents basement.

When I have given expert testimony in court which I was paid for in relation to computer crimes and IP theft I had no idea what I was talking about.

Your are the best at smoking out fakes.
Jimmie is in Mensa and has 2 degrees. You have nothing on him

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Jimmie is in Mensa and has 2 degrees. You have nothing on him

/sarcasm
How do you know?

So far we are on equal ground (Member since 1977)
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So far we are on equal ground (Member since 1977)
well then even if that is true he owns 180 acres and owns 2 homes and spent more on his cat for christmas then what you make a month.

Even if you can beat that then you are a nobody to him so what you say means nothing.

you can't show up jimmy, if he disagrees with you or doesn't like you then he is better then you 100% of the time.
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http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/google.comGoogle sends out 23 spam emails a week fuck wonder how I never noticed that one?
Google alerts and the topic they chose was Brad Pit. Google was not listed as a spammer and site listed as safe.

I use google alerts.
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We've tested this site and found it safe to use.


Site is listed there as safe. Some COMMENTS from "reviewers were negative"

Look like you are trying to twist their rankings to make it look as though they are wrong.
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this post speaks volumes....i suppose you dont want to associate with them either susheboy?
See 2 previous posts.
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Old 12-27-2006, 01:19 PM   #84
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BTW Silvercash bounced a $140 check a few years ago. The replaced the check but never paid me the bank fees after calls and emails. They claimed their bank dropped them because they were adult but the check was marked NSF.
No offence but the calls probably cost more then the fees. Nice of you to let us all know SilverCash screwed you out of a few dollars....... We will all pull our links, don't want to loose that three fiddy!!
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No offence but the calls probably cost more then the fees. Nice of you to let us all know SilverCash screwed you out of a few dollars....... We will all pull our links, don't want to loose that three fiddy!!
After 3 calls and 1 email I stopped. I knew better that my time was worth more than perusing it.

Pull links over $35 no. Be cautious if something "feels wrong" absolutely.

Linking to Silvercash didn't hurt me. Linking to Epic did.
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well then even if that is true he owns 180 acres and owns 2 homes and spent more on his cat for christmas then what you make a month.

Even if you can beat that then you are a nobody to him so what you say means nothing.

you can't show up jimmy, if he disagrees with you or doesn't like you then he is better then you 100% of the time.
And this proves the honesty of Epic or Jimmy how?

This makes him better than me how?
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And this proves the honesty of Epic or Jimmy how?

This makes him better than me how?
it doesn't it is nice to see someone else get him pissed off. For all the shit he pulls good to see people slinging it back at him. I love the " would you like that supersized comments".

Since you are in mensa, can you verify if James Kirkman from Indiana is actually a member or if he is full of shit, just like every thing else he says here. I am betting he is not.
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Old 12-27-2006, 01:54 PM   #89
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And this proves the honesty of Epic or Jimmy how?

This makes him better than me how?

I don't think you're getting that Will76 is basically making fun of Epic/Jim... he's on your side. Read.

Also, I think the Raven Riley site rating proves that McAfee's site ratings are questionable. I've never dealt with EpicCash, so I can't defend/condemn, but the Raven Riley rating is just weird.
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Thank goodness for global search and replace.

Made removing links across multiple pages real easy!

All done.
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siteadvisor is bullshit. its totally unfair that so many people use macaffe and get subjected to this shit. i'm sure if the warnings are totally false the site should be able get them removed or sue if necessary. it harms their business.
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i'm sure if the warnings are totally false the site should be able get them removed or sue if necessary. it harms their business.
That's my point. Epic Cash appears to have no desire to do this so that appears to be an admission of guilt to me.
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Thank goodness for global search and replace.

Made removing links across multiple pages real easy!

All done.
who did you replace them with ?
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Some were not replaced as they were in a more unique fetish niche I must now research, some went to MM and SilverCash although I had to stop since I discovered 2 new issues with them now.

Fortunately most were gallery pages but some of the free site pages meant I had to actually look at each page but at least a global search of "Epic" made it easy with homesite.

As for the virally circulated content, well I should have only used my own urls to make it easy to redirect.
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