RawAlex

Boneprone, considering the type of money you have claimed to be betting, you can be sure that you set some flags off in the past little while. By law now banks are not permitted to help you gamble offshore, and some are taking more aggressive actions than others.

For what it's worth, the bank shutting you down is likely the least of your concerns. I would be more worried about the feds or the IRS coming to knock on your door to see if you have declared all your "winnings".

Good luck dude.

BusterBunny

had a 6.5 foot black man close my account at bank of america, without showing id...for a school paper ......was only like $100 but i am mabye 6 foot and white as hell(i was in line right behind him and they were none too happy when i walked up and told them they just gave my cash to someone that wasn't me)

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damn man.. that sucks ass. I hate BofA, biggest scamming bank in the country

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sux man, good luck with that

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this is fucking scary. our business acounts are all with bank of america. time to move?

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I am not a BOA fan, they cut me off one time in Toronto right when I was paying for a sushi dinner. (very embarassing) They claimed its procedure and my card could have been stolen since I lived in cali. Even after I called them the week prior and informed them that I would be in Toronto on business.

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RobV

I'm sorry this bullshit has to happen to you. I actually work for BofA and just finished a banker class about why this situation has to happen to accounts (you wouldn't believe how simple some of the shit is). I think the majority of it is bullshit. If I was working there longer I might be able to provide some kind of help, or if you want you can e-mail me the name your account is under (and state opened) I can have some of my people look into it - or at least find out what the normal outcome is.

On that same side note - I used to work for Wells Fargo. If anyone has accounts there that have a problem (business or personal) , or you want/need special attention drop me a line as well. I know bankers and managers who will provide it and not ask too many questions. Even when processing lines of credits,loans, or mortgages involving self employment they great to deal with.

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Pleasurepays

a gambling addict has a bank account and is continually moving around 10's of thousands of dollars to make illegal sports bets and gamble in online casinos, both of which are illegal - and the bank is concerned... and somehow that strikes you as being odd?

you might worry about whats next. i seriously doubt the bank is your biggest problem right now. i don't see any possible situation where they suspect illegal activity and take direct action without reporting it to authorities at the same time.

RawAlex

Dammit, will you quit agreeing with me! People are going to think we plan this shit!

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I look at this the same way as domains and hosting -- diversify. Use credit cards from different companies that aren't your bank. Keep business accounts at banks different from your personal accounts, and so on. Yeah it can be a pain in the ass, but I just don't feel right sucking the nipple of one company.

Kimmykim

Some of you need to read up on the Wire Act of 1961. Gambling on the internet -- ESPECIALLY sportsbook gambling -- is illegal if you are a US citizen.

This isn't new and has nothing to do with the new law.

Pleasurepays

you're like the credit card processing mom we never had.

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yea, no kidding

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Some people contend that since the actual bet takes place on servers overseas, gambling online from the US is not illegal. The new law to prevent the funding of accounts with US bank accounts makes this loop hole purely academic.

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Myst

take this shit up in court boneprone
what theyre doing is absolutely unreal indeed

make those assholes pay

madawgz

fuck that sucks, i hope you get all your money back...

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Pete-KT

Hope everything is solved bro

Myst

I dont think the internet was around in 1961

RawAlex

phone lines and "wires" were.

pocketkangaroo

Not much you can do. While I don't think they should be able to freeze YOUR funds, they have every right not to want to be your bank.

As for the law, I'm not exactly sure that internet gambling has been tested yet in front of the Supreme Court. Nonetheless, we had a bunch or morons in government who want to butt into everyone's own business. Yay Republicans!

tony286

Regulators might have told them to do that online gambling is breaking the law they aren't playing on this. You make alot of money from this so you are probably being watched.

Daruma

I said a while before - this type of action reaks of freedom of speach, though not the same - how about freedom to be able to spend your hard earned taxed money the way that you want, surely you can go to Vegas and withdraw from a casino through your BofA account - but its very selective when they start killing accounts based on non Vegas gaming transactions

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mikesouth

guess what yo9u can blame b of a BUT they are just doing what is required by law

and let me guess you didnt even vote...see what you get when you let everyone else pick who makes the rules

remember this come election time....

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Myst

any updates?

split_joel

lol sounds like epassporte and bank of America have alot in common LOL.

dude get yourself a lawyer stop fucking around

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Pleasurepays

what's wrong with some of you people?

"freedom" doesn't mean "free to break the law". "freedom" doesn't mean "Do anything you want". you can't spend your hard earned money on a machine gun right? you can't spend your hard earned money on a small nuclear bomb. you can't spend your hard earned money on heroin... you can't spend your hard earned money gambling online.

the reasons for that are those little annoyances to some of the kids out there called "laws". do you understand how regulated banks are? the rules they have. they laws they have to follow? they don't get to pick and choose which clients they allow to break the law using their bank to facilitate the transactions.

pocketkangaroo

I think people are trying to say how stupid the law is. It's my money, my hobby, and doesn't effect anyone else. Individuals should have the freedom to spend their money on the hobbies they choose. Comparing it to a nuclear bomb or machine gun is plain silly. Last I checked, no one blew up a building with a poker game.

Pleasurepays

from Bank of America's perspective, its about the law, their interpretations of the law, the potential liability issues they face, shareholders views, their policies and government pressure... its not about about their personal opinions of the Constitution and personal freedoms.

if people want to gamble online.. fine. there is a mechanism to make that possible. most of you should have learned about it in junior high. just because someone always feels that life isn't fair, doesn't mean their constitutional rights are being infringed on. i get really tired of hearing that rediculous crap here.

pocketkangaroo

I understand what BofA did and don't have a problem with it. I think the poster you were arguing with was stating that the law was unfair. I don't think anyone really blames BofA for following the law. Their practices do seem a tad hypocritical, but that's beside the point.

I think the bigger issue is what the government has done. First their hypocritical and ridiculous stance on gambling, then making banks police it for them. Gotta love those small government Republicans.

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Why anyone in this business would still be banking with B.O.A. is beyond me.

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baddog

You are the one that comes off as clueless . . . .time after time.

baddog

I have been using BofA for longer than most of you have been alive.

They treat me quite well, with free business accounts (as many as I want), free checking, and anything else I can think of . . . . well, okay, they do charge me to send wires.

baddog

Another example of you coming off as clueless. You don't see a difference between a legal casino and an off-shore gambling site?

pocketkangaroo

I had a bank account with them many years ago and never had any problems with them. They actually used to have checks showing up in your account real fast (if you deposited in the morning it showed in the afternoon).

I did have a school loan with them though which was a disaster. Their online payment system was always down and then they'd charge you $15 to do it over the phone. They also snuck in a lot of other charges any chance they could get (I think I was charged $35 to set up auto-payments). They were by far the worst bank I had a student loan with.

I still think it's important to diversify banks these days. No one should be trusted with all your money.

spunkmaster

Online gambling in the USA has been illegal for close to 10 years.

Look up USLotto vs the United States !

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The Wire Act of 1961 applied to phone lines and the USLotto vs the USA case went to the SCOTUS and they agreed that using a computer to gamble violated the wire act because we use phone lines accross state lines to connect to the internet even if to a foreign nation.

The USLotto site was doing a few million $$ per day on an Indian reservation in Idaho !

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Uh ......Yeah.

I've even heard of people being brought up on RICO charges for that. In fact, back around 1997-98 I helped install a telephonic firewall at American Wagering, Inc AKA "Leroy's Sports Book" in Las Vegas to stop people from placing bets outside of the state lines over the phone.

I'm honestly shocked that the Government has not taken a more stern stance against online gambling.

pocketkangaroo

Online gambling in the US is illegal, however Boneprone is not betting through the US but instead overseas. The US Lotto case would have no bearing on this at all.

While placing sports bets overseas has been illegal for close to 10 years, online gambling has not.

RawAlex

Gambling is only legal in certain states. By default, if you are not in a state where gambling is legal, any wagering done, if in person or online, is illegal.

You are attempting to dance on the head of a legal pin. Too many angel's asses in the way for that. If this was a question of someone making $20 wagers once a month, we wouldn't be here. Boneprone (by the content of his threads) suggests to be someone moving tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars through offshore gambling situations. I suspect the levels of activity alone were enough to tip someone off.

I really think he will be lucky if they unfreeze the money and just give it back without getting the authorities in.

spunkmaster

The USLotto vs the USA case went to the SCOTUS and they agreed that using a computer to gamble violated the wire act because we use phone lines accross state lines to connect to the internet even if to a foreign nation.

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JD

ouch man... I think that the bank locking you out is the very LEAST of your worries

pocketkangaroo

What Boneprone did was illegal as he was betting on sports. I was talking about online gambling as a whole, which has not been illegal for the past 10 years. What law are you citing that makes it illegal to gamble online overseas (non-sports)?

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