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Old 12-29-2006, 02:15 AM   #151
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The USLotto vs the USA case went to the SCOTUS and they agreed that using a computer to gamble violated the wire act because we use phone lines accross state lines to connect to the internet even if to a foreign nation.
I am not familiar with this case. Do you have a link to it, I would like to read up on it.
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Old 12-29-2006, 02:47 AM   #152
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They had a FUCKING signup booth at THE WORLD SERIES OF POKER a year or so back..

I signed up..

ITs a credit card that says WORLD SERIES OF POKER on it..

What the fuck do they think someone like me is gunna do with their card??

Buy groceries with it?
You should tell this story to fox news or one of the other news outlets they would for sure give you airtime for some crazy shit like this.
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Old 12-29-2006, 03:11 AM   #153
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Old 12-29-2006, 03:23 AM   #154
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Old 12-29-2006, 03:32 AM   #155
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a gambling addict has a bank account and is continually moving around 10's of thousands of dollars to make illegal sports bets and gamble in online casinos, both of which are illegal - and the bank is concerned... and somehow that strikes you as being odd?

you might worry about whats next. i seriously doubt the bank is your biggest problem right now. i don't see any possible situation where they suspect illegal activity and take direct action without reporting it to authorities at the same time.
LMAO, so what does the guy expect? OMG MY HEAD IS SPINNING COZ I WAS BEING A SHADY ASSHOLE AND NOW IM FUCKED.. tool!

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Old 12-29-2006, 03:34 AM   #156
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Thats casue you look shady............

Me, im good looking, yet trustworthy looking as well.
mate I hope things will resolve for the best side for you..
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Old 12-29-2006, 05:25 AM   #157
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this is a travesty, as i whorelheartedly condone any and all vices


hope you get your loot back man
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Old 12-29-2006, 05:51 AM   #158
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When they closed the accounts of SilverCash several years ago (with no notice so most affiliate checks bounced) solely for being an "adult" company, I called and they told me they don't do business with anyone in the adult industry or the liquor industry.

I moved my accounts within the week.
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Old 12-29-2006, 06:22 AM   #159
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Uh ......Yeah.

I've even heard of people being brought up on RICO charges for that.
God damn

I'd say Bank of America is the least of your worries since they have surely informed the alphabet guys (IRS, FBI, etc.) of your transactions.
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Old 12-29-2006, 06:24 AM   #160
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This is FUCKING INSANE... BANK OF AMERICA just closed ALL of my accounts..

Checking, creditcards, all revolving lines of credit, you name it...

They said, and this bitch said it like she was a teacher and I was a kid in 2nd grade who got in trouble.

"We have been montoring you and you have been engaging in illegal activities"

Then she told me Gambling was Illegal......

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON??????????


never happened to me, are you under a business account or no? i find you get a little bit more respect when you only keep a business acount with bofa.
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Old 12-29-2006, 06:29 AM   #161
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thats so fucked up,i would fiucking throw a boomb on them,jesus
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Old 12-29-2006, 07:43 AM   #162
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Fucking Iowa Congressman Jim Leach. Can't he find something better to waste his time on?
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Old 12-29-2006, 07:48 AM   #163
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what's wrong with some of you people?

"freedom" doesn't mean "free to break the law". "freedom" doesn't mean "Do anything you want". you can't spend your hard earned money on a machine gun right? you can't spend your hard earned money on a small nuclear bomb. you can't spend your hard earned money on heroin... you can't spend your hard earned money gambling online.

the reasons for that are those little annoyances to some of the kids out there called "laws". do you understand how regulated banks are? the rules they have. they laws they have to follow? they don't get to pick and choose which clients they allow to break the law using their bank to facilitate the transactions.
and what if the gov says one day you cannot spend your hard earned $ on porn... then what..
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Old 12-29-2006, 07:51 AM   #164
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You should tell this story to fox news or one of the other news outlets they would for sure give you airtime for some crazy shit like this.
Yeah, that's a real good idea.

He should probably fax them over a list of all his porn sites, too.
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Old 12-29-2006, 07:55 AM   #165
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Another example of you coming off as clueless. You don't see a difference between a legal casino and an off-shore gambling site?
your fucking clueless idiot
1. offshore sites are legal, in fact online gaming is legal is almost all of the world, public on the UK stock exchange and other places

2. it should be the choice of the customer where to spend his money or where not to - saying you cannot spend $ for online gambling in the privacy of your own home can be a slippery slope in the future - what if they say no more porn as a next step?

3. this whole online / offline gambling argument is politically and religiously driven for the most part - also there is a push from the land-based gaming community to ban online ONLY because it helps their bottom line - not because of any moral issue
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Old 12-29-2006, 07:59 AM   #166
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your fucking clueless idiot
1. offshore sites are legal, in fact online gaming is legal is almost all of the world, public on the UK stock exchange and other places

2. it should be the choice of the customer where to spend his money or where not to - saying you cannot spend $ for online gambling in the privacy of your own home can be a slippery slope in the future - what if they say no more porn as a next step?

3. this whole online / offline gambling argument is politically and religiously driven for the most part - also there is a push from the land-based gaming community to ban online ONLY because it helps their bottom line - not because of any moral issue
god i hope boneprone has you on ignore - worst advice EVER!
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:02 AM   #167
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god i hope boneprone has you on ignore - worst advice EVER!
thats not advice for his situation at all
that is just what is going on
that is the real situation from the inside of the biz
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your fucking clueless idiot
1. offshore sites are legal, in fact online gaming is legal is almost all of the world, public on the UK stock exchange and other places

2. it should be the choice of the customer where to spend his money or where not to - saying you cannot spend $ for online gambling in the privacy of your own home can be a slippery slope in the future - what if they say no more porn as a next step?

3. this whole online / offline gambling argument is politically and religiously driven for the most part - also there is a push from the land-based gaming community to ban online ONLY because it helps their bottom line - not because of any moral issue
Thankfully you aren't a lawyer, because the judges would hurt themselves laughing at you.
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:43 AM   #170
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So much misinformation

Online gambling is/was only illegal in a few states hence the reason for the new bill; which hasn't even come into effect yet.

You just have to check out the Peter Dicks of Sportingbet case in New York. He was released by a judge as he broke no laws in New York State.

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Old 12-29-2006, 08:54 AM   #171
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So much misinformation

Online gambling is/was only illegal in a few states hence the reason for the new bill; which hasn't even come into effect yet.

You just have to check out the Peter Dicks of Sportingbet case in New York. He was released by a judge as he broke no laws in New York State.
I was always under the impression that it really depended on who was interpreting the law.. There was nothing specific banning online offshore gambling, but many considered it to be under the umbrella of other statutes, while others didnt. Dont know if there had ever been a real precedent set, when it comes to offshore online gambling. I need to read up on some of this stuff.
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Old 12-29-2006, 09:09 AM   #172
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LMAO, so what does the guy expect? OMG MY HEAD IS SPINNING COZ I WAS BEING A SHADY ASSHOLE AND NOW IM FUCKED.. tool!

Justice is served!
can we get like a 3 strike rule for this dumbass and his huge font posts?
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Old 12-29-2006, 09:21 AM   #173
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haven't had time to read this thread but how come you were unaware of this new law that comprimised the right to gamble if you use american banks?
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Old 12-29-2006, 09:45 AM   #174
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Has boneprone stopped posting (which he did right in the middle of drama) because the low men in yellow coats have finally found him and taken him away?
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Account wagering has been illegal in the US for more than a few months. It is, and will continue to be, the cornerstone of the legal and criminal cases that come to trial.

You can bet all you want to -- you can play poker -- you can do whatever -- without account gaming. Once you deposit money into an account, or have an account created that would store your winnings and allow you to bet with them, you have then created an account.

That is illegal.
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Has boneprone stopped posting (which he did right in the middle of drama) because the low men in yellow coats have finally found him and taken him away?
I suspect you have much experience with that... except your "men in yellow coats" said "praise xxx church" over and over again.

Donny, go back to whatever hole you crawled into. Useless git.
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I suspect you have much experience with that... except your "men in yellow coats" said "praise xxx church" over and over again.

Donny, go back to whatever hole you crawled into. Useless git.
ugg get over it already......
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Once you deposit money into an account, or have an account created that would store your winnings and allow you to bet with them, you have then created an account.

That is illegal.

that doesn't make sense.. how can something be illegal if it hasnt been done yet..

The creation of the account isnt illegal. The facilitating its use to gamble is.
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Old 12-29-2006, 11:32 AM   #179
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They are threating me now...

Like they are going to report me or some shit......

Report me???? What the fuck is going on.....

They are really being mean now. Ive been transfered to some muscle guy now whos job it seems like is to scare people.

Is this Bank Of America or the fucking mafia.

Serious whats going on?

This is UNREAL.
Well....you know that Bank of America used to be Bank of Italy...perhaps a coincidence...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_America
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good luck straightening things out. :/
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hope you get things sorted :/ time to move to the UK I guess...
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Old 12-29-2006, 12:00 PM   #183
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damn that sucks man, I hope u get it all back.

Living here in Vegas, I seen a sign at the casino that allows you to bet on sports using the internet, and I'am guessing that you have to live in the state of Nevada.

Good Luck, time to make some changes, but I'am wondering of what they did it 100% legal.
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on what part?

#1 and #3 are facts
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1. offshore sites are legal, in fact online gaming is legal is almost all of the world, public on the UK stock exchange and other places

2. it should be the choice of the customer where to spend his money or where not to - saying you cannot spend $ for online gambling in the privacy of your own home can be a slippery slope in the future - what if they say no more porn as a next step?

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on what part?

#1 and #3 are facts
#2 is my opinion
#1 is only correct if you live somewhere other than Portland, OR.
#3 is your opinion.
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on what part?

#1 and #3 are facts
#2 is my opinion
#1 is a fact outside of the US. The fact that it is legal to smoke pot in Amsterdam doesn't mean you can deal on a street corner in Jersey City.

#2 is a total opinion.

#3 is politically slanted spew, likely learned from watching cable news. Political opinion isn't a fact.

As I said, the judges would split a gut listening to you.
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As I read the screen all I can do is laugh


Bonerprone dude I swear this is not meant to make light of your situation or laugh at you but seriously are you like bi-polar or something???

even the lowest level retard knows that gambling has always been a touchy if not illegal subject and that bank of america doesent do touchy...what exactly were you thinking???


then you bounce from board to board braging about how much money you spend on XYZ ETC ETC

....dude you are the weakest link

someone really needs to take this guy under their wing and teach him basic day to day life management

then instead of you turning of the fucking computer and dealing with your issues....you post a play by play on GFY

I call every thing you ever said bullshit

get a life man
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By the way if this really had happened to this retard

I would hope idiot has enough sense to drive over to his branch office and deal with it

again I call bullshit drama from a retard just trying to brag or some shit once again

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you are a gambling addict, what did you expect? retard
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Only in the USA.

God I am glad to be Canadian ;-)

TD Canada Trust froze and then reversed a $15K wire on me, then another $10K. They never provided a good reason they literally said "we cannot be certain of the source of your funds so we are terminating our banking relationship with you". I know the real reason was some teller didnt like the look of me and money laundering laws are just as Nazi in canada too.
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Ahhh.. Im starting to remeber something like this....

Were they the bank that prached morals and closed accounts for being adult industry related a few years back??
It states in both Wells Fargo and BofA's TOS that they do not do business with adult companies.

It usually is up to your branch manager and many times they will ask you to not mention what you do and if your rep knows what you do and not the branch manager they may ask you to call their cell and shit like that. It's crazy what you have to do in order for someone to TAKE your money.
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Man I hope for you all is going to be ok BP. Fucking sucks to be in a situation like this.

KK that's an interesting read you just posted ;-)
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Smoking pot in Amsterdan is illegal. They let you get away with it, but it is illegal.
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Old 12-29-2006, 05:49 PM   #195
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I love how the only type of "Legal" gambling is government sponsored gambling lol
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Old 12-29-2006, 07:34 PM   #196
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BP , move you and your family to canada !
I'll start looking 4 real estate here for yah ....
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:54 PM   #197
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Things are getting worked out..

Im not worried...

Im more worried about the 7k I have on tonights Blazer game against the 76ers..
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:58 PM   #198
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Good luck with it. I'm glad things are looking up.
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Old 12-29-2006, 09:01 PM   #199
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OK here's the deal and update to what’s going on. All Joking Aside….

As many of you know, I own a deli.. A casino video poker deli.. With slot machines and video poker in it.

It is LEGAL here in this state.. In fact they are state leased and managed machines.. Licensed and legal.. 83% of the revenue of this Deli comes from Video Poker revenue..

Of which this biz has its banking done at B of A...

It has taken some time to explain to them that yes indeed the account there was used for gaming income. But LEGAL gaming income.. As licensed by the state.. Thus they have no right to close this account for "gambling" as the lumped this all into.. For it was LEGAL...

As for the credit cards like the World Series of Poker Visa they gave me, yes that will be closed.. It was used for what is now considered illegal online gambling. There is no excuse for that and I have accepted this.. No excuses from me on this.. Funny how its a "poker" credit card issued to me when I was in Las Vegas playing in the world series of poker, but all joking aside it is something I can live with.

As for the other accounts, we are filing an appeal which im confident will turn out just fine..

Time will tell.

This has been a learning experience to say the least.

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Old 12-29-2006, 09:05 PM   #200
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This has been a learning experience to say the least.
Dude, I don't know you from whatever, but if this is a learning experience from what you just explained..... Fuck man... Did you think you were some super hero or something?
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