how is the EXPIRING DOMAIN game lately? - GoFuckYourself.com

polish_aristocrat · 01-30-2007, 08:56 AM

havent been following or doing it for a while...

is Pool still ruling the market like as 2-3 years ago?

what are the best services right now? and also are there anymore domain dropping services left which are NOT auction based?

jimthefiend · 01-30-2007, 08:58 AM

This thread should be deleted. This is the ePassporte support forum and I can't see how this topic is relevant to that at all.

Mike Semen · 01-30-2007, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jimthefiend

This thread should be deleted. This is the ePassporte support forum and I can't see how this topic is relevant to that at all.

Fucking LOL!

Lazonby · 01-30-2007, 09:11 AM

Pool = scammers.

DjSap · 01-30-2007, 09:15 AM

None of the big players have a "fixed" fee for the droppings anymore. I think it's basically pool and snapnames that are ruling the game right now. However it is not as easy as it used to be as it has moved more towards a normal domain auction than a bargain catch.

Klen · 01-30-2007, 09:17 AM

Speaking about expired domains,is there any site except domaintools.com which give free monitoring of domains?

polish_aristocrat · 01-30-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DjSap

None of the big players have a "fixed" fee for the droppings anymore. I think it's basically pool and snapnames that are ruling the game right now. However it is not as easy as it used to be as it has moved more towards a normal domain auction than a bargain catch.

do you know/remember perhaps the site listing the drop services with the highest sucess rate?

and speaking about the smaller services, aren't there really ANY left with a flat fee?

I wouldnt mind paying $100 or whatever even if I had only 10% chance that I get the domain through some less popular service (although the domain name that im interested in, is probably "Reserved" by someone else already)

polish_aristocrat · 01-30-2007, 09:51 AM

and yes, good point - in pool.com you dont get any bargains anymore

if a domain name is worth f.e $50k, then chances you'll buy it on Pool for $10k are maybe 1%

pradaboy · 01-30-2007, 10:11 AM

If you want a domain you gotta backorder at Pool + SnapNames + eNom and that will give you like 95% chance it will be caught.

Been getting some good deals at eNom, not as much competition as Snap and Pool.

Juilan · 01-30-2007, 10:15 AM

Backorders aren't what they used to be, as soon as you declare interest in one, it goes to the respective enom/pool/snap/godaddy public auction and quite a lot of waiting is involved as they try to see if anyone else can be alerted to your find.

v4 media · 01-30-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Speaking about expired domains,is there any site except domaintools.com which give free monitoring of domains?

http://www.deleteddomains.com/

not really monitoring but shows all domains onhold/deleted

woj · 01-30-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jimthefiend

This thread should be deleted. This is the ePassporte support forum and I can't see how this topic is relevant to that at all.

germ · 01-30-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jimthefiend

This thread should be deleted. This is the ePassporte support forum and I can't see how this topic is relevant to that at all.

ok normally you annoy me...but THAT was funny.

JustinBackDoorCash · 01-30-2007, 12:43 PM

Snap and Pool have worked out deals with certain Registrars that guarantee them dropping names. GoDaddy (who has the largest stock of Domains) sends all domains to TDNAM where you can compete for them.

Snap has quite a great rap going - I backorder many domains there as they almost always get what your after. However, often times the few big players tend to spend whatever it takes to get a domain name. Well over my head. Sometimes names that would get maybe 5-6k on the market, shoot up to 10-15k at Snap. I almost wish I could auction my names off at Snap like they were drops. (This seems to be the direction they are going)

polish_aristocrat · 01-30-2007, 12:50 PM

The domain name im interested in is with Network Solutions....

madawgz · 01-30-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jimthefiend

This thread should be deleted. This is the ePassporte support forum and I can't see how this topic is relevant to that at all.

haha

pornguy · 01-30-2007, 01:16 PM

I have found a few good ones that simply dropped, and I got them for 8.88

BigOil · 01-30-2007, 01:23 PM

network solutions has an exclusive deal with snapnames. all their expired names go there.

DomBuyer · 01-30-2007, 01:25 PM

Best of luck Polish. You're name is now in the great black hole. You'd have an easier time buying sex.com at this point.

polish_aristocrat · 01-30-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigOil

network solutions has an exclusive deal with snapnames. all their expired names go there.

thanks

will they allow a new customer to bid up to $20k for a name though, heh?

but I guess I have to clarify it with them

pradaboy · 01-30-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

thanks

will they allow a new customer to bid up to $20k for a name though, heh?

but I guess I have to clarify it with them

I don't think there's any verification aside from a $1 cc charge I believe.

polish_aristocrat · 01-30-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy

I don't think there's any verification aside from a $1 cc charge I believe.

I already inquired but no reply yet

if they allow only CC payments then I am fucked anyway, the only way I can pay them such amounts is with wire

polish_aristocrat · 02-07-2007, 12:37 PM

ok, enom's system.hm.. i believe I need to apply for a direct account with enom? or do they have a seperate url for their expiring service? I wish they'd be replying to emails as well

ah one more thing, godaddy's system, whats their success rate on average?
or do they catch only the expiring names that drop from godaddy?

from my understanding so far is that snapnames and pool have like 80% of the market

I remember I was using namewinnner.com few years ago, looks like they were bought by snapnames already

The Dawg · 02-07-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinBackDoorCash

Snap and Pool have worked out deals with certain Registrars that guarantee them dropping names. GoDaddy (who has the largest stock of Domains) sends all domains to TDNAM where you can compete for them.

Snap has quite a great rap going - I backorder many domains there as they almost always get what your after. However, often times the few big players tend to spend whatever it takes to get a domain name. Well over my head. Sometimes names that would get maybe 5-6k on the market, shoot up to 10-15k at Snap. I almost wish I could auction my names off at Snap like they were drops. (This seems to be the direction they are going)

I know what you mean: vaxis, bonkerstwo & benfranklin have DEEP pockets.

polish_aristocrat · 02-10-2007, 10:09 AM

final bump for this thread, should anyone have some more input

CyberHustler · 02-10-2007, 10:29 AM

I own expireddomians.com

BlackCrayon · 02-10-2007, 10:36 AM

i hate the idea that they are auctioning off expired domains. it should be first come first serve in my opinion. the same thing when the .mobi pre-reg came out. sure, if pool got them you could bid on them but all this did is line pools pockets big time. they were getting 5-10k on some names that didn't even cost them 70 bucks.

DaddyHalbucks · 02-10-2007, 10:41 AM

GoDaddy's drop service is dreadful. It's not even worth trying.

polish_aristocrat · 02-10-2007, 12:12 PM

hey one more question (again) does anyone remember the url that states the daily success rates of various drop services?

tranza · 02-10-2007, 12:22 PM

Nice enlighting thread...

polish_aristocrat · 02-12-2007, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza

Nice enlighting thread...

Miguel T · 02-12-2007, 04:52 PM

I dont play expired domains "game"...

polish_aristocrat · 02-16-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

hey one more question (again) does anyone remember the url that states the daily success rates of various drop services?

i guess nope

teomaxxx · 02-16-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dawg

I know what you mean: vaxis, bonkerstwo & benfranklin have DEEP pockets.

yeah, at the times when i used snapnames a lot, some of these guys were really unstoppable. I am not even able to imagine, that they could profit from domains they bought.

Linkster · 02-16-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

I already inquired but no reply yet

if they allow only CC payments then I am fucked anyway, the only way I can pay them such amounts is with wire

They allow you to prefund with CC or paypal , but you can set up wires with them (at least you used to be able to)
You also need to check the private auctions as they tend to only allow certain bids into those - even though they are still drops - and they will lock out the min.bidders - but you can still get some good finds in there - and I agree that Ive had better luck with snap - I remember the list youre thinking about but cant find it.

rowan · 02-16-2007, 08:56 PM

I came across an interesting variation the other day... expired IPs! I ordered some new IPs from my host and one of them still has several domains pointed at it. Googlebot was busy looking over them when I discovered this unusual situation.

01-30-2007, 08:56 AM	#1
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	how is the EXPIRING DOMAIN game lately? havent been following or doing it for a while... is Pool still ruling the market like as 2-3 years ago? what are the best services right now? and also are there anymore domain dropping services left which are NOT auction based? __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

01-30-2007, 09:15 AM	#5
DjSap Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,869	None of the big players have a "fixed" fee for the droppings anymore. I think it's basically pool and snapnames that are ruling the game right now. However it is not as easy as it used to be as it has moved more towards a normal domain auction than a bargain catch. __________________ Blog Themes, TGP Design, Writing Services, Grunt Work ICQ: 66871495

01-30-2007, 09:51 AM	#8
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	and yes, good point - in pool.com you dont get any bargains anymore if a domain name is worth f.e $50k, then chances you'll buy it on Pool for $10k are maybe 1% __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

01-30-2007, 10:11 AM	#9
pradaboy sell me your banners Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: on the tubes Posts: 12,931	If you want a domain you gotta backorder at Pool + SnapNames + eNom and that will give you like 95% chance it will be caught. Been getting some good deals at eNom, not as much competition as Snap and Pool. __________________ Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic! FREE to register domains... Better than 99% of the crap sold here!

01-30-2007, 10:15 AM	#10
Juilan Sultan of Swing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: XXXodus Posts: 15,141	Backorders aren't what they used to be, as soon as you declare interest in one, it goes to the respective enom/pool/snap/godaddy public auction and quite a lot of waiting is involved as they try to see if anyone else can be alerted to your find. __________________ My Best Converting VOD Sponsor \|

01-30-2007, 08:58 AM	#2
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	This thread should be deleted. This is the ePassporte support forum and I can't see how this topic is relevant to that at all.

01-30-2007, 09:11 AM	#4
Lazonby Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,262	Pool = scammers.

01-30-2007, 09:17 AM	#6
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Speaking about expired domains,is there any site except domaintools.com which give free monitoring of domains?

01-30-2007, 12:43 PM	#14
JustinBackDoorCash Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 98	Snap and Pool have worked out deals with certain Registrars that guarantee them dropping names. GoDaddy (who has the largest stock of Domains) sends all domains to TDNAM where you can compete for them. Snap has quite a great rap going - I backorder many domains there as they almost always get what your after. However, often times the few big players tend to spend whatever it takes to get a domain name. Well over my head. Sometimes names that would get maybe 5-6k on the market, shoot up to 10-15k at Snap. I almost wish I could auction my names off at Snap like they were drops. (This seems to be the direction they are going) __________________ ICQ: 105-650

01-30-2007, 12:50 PM	#15
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	The domain name im interested in is with Network Solutions.... __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

01-30-2007, 01:16 PM	#17
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,912	I have found a few good ones that simply dropped, and I got them for 8.88 __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

01-30-2007, 01:23 PM	#18
BigOil Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 50	network solutions has an exclusive deal with snapnames. all their expired names go there.

01-30-2007, 01:25 PM	#19
DomBuyer Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Amalfi Coast Posts: 2,595	Best of luck Polish. You're name is now in the great black hole. You'd have an easier time buying sex.com at this point.

02-07-2007, 12:37 PM	#23
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	ok, enom's system.hm.. i believe I need to apply for a direct account with enom? or do they have a seperate url for their expiring service? I wish they'd be replying to emails as well ah one more thing, godaddy's system, whats their success rate on average? or do they catch only the expiring names that drop from godaddy? from my understanding so far is that snapnames and pool have like 80% of the market I remember I was using namewinnner.com few years ago, looks like they were bought by snapnames already __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

02-10-2007, 10:09 AM	#25
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	final bump for this thread, should anyone have some more input __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

02-10-2007, 10:29 AM	#26
CyberHustler So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25,214	I own expireddomians.com

02-10-2007, 10:36 AM	#27
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	i hate the idea that they are auctioning off expired domains. it should be first come first serve in my opinion. the same thing when the .mobi pre-reg came out. sure, if pool got them you could bid on them but all this did is line pools pockets big time. they were getting 5-10k on some names that didn't even cost them 70 bucks. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

02-10-2007, 10:41 AM	#28
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	GoDaddy's drop service is dreadful. It's not even worth trying. __________________ Boner Money

02-10-2007, 12:12 PM	#29
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	hey one more question (again) does anyone remember the url that states the daily success rates of various drop services? __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

02-10-2007, 12:22 PM	#30
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Nice enlighting thread... __________________ I'm just a newbie.

02-12-2007, 04:52 PM	#32
Miguel T ♦ Web Developer ♦ Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Full-Stack Developer Posts: 12,469	I dont play expired domains "game"... __________________ Full Stack Webdeveloper: HTML5/CSS3, jQuery, AJAX, ElevatedX, NATS, MechBunny, Wordpress

02-16-2007, 08:56 PM	#36
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I came across an interesting variation the other day... expired IPs! I ordered some new IPs from my host and one of them still has several domains pointed at it. Googlebot was busy looking over them when I discovered this unusual situation.