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Old 02-04-2007, 05:06 PM   #51
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i don't know why people have this mac/pc debate anymore, they are both so fast these days, each with their own benefits....it basically is up to you, try a mac and if you like it, grab one, if not, oh well

i really think people that still participate in the mac/pc debate are just caught up in the old 90's way of thinking
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:07 PM   #52
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i don't know why people have this mac/pc debate anymore, they are both so fast these days, each with their own benefits....it basically is up to you, try a mac and if you like it, grab one, if not, oh well

i really think people that still participate in the mac/pc debate are just caught up in the old 90's way of thinking
I dont really care either way, the thing I hate is the elite crap the mac side tries to pull, and then act like a pc is only good to be used as a calculator, yet SOMEHOW millions of people manage to do EVERYTHING they need without drinking coffee or buying a mac. lol
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:11 PM   #53
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I hate all the bullshit that comes with a windows PC nowadays, settings scattered throughout the OS, Pop up notification bubbles, activation, viruses, spyware, complicated dialog menus, drivers, security etc etc.
wtf are you running, windows 98?

I have two machines running windows xp
I never get pop up notifications
I activated ONCE, a year ago
I have not had any virus issues in at least a year
spyware isn't even an issue, complicated dialog menus? um, yeah, us smart people like more options, sorry if it confuses you
drivers? I plug in new shit and it works, what are you having issues with?
security? in what way?

you really sound lik you are running an old version of windows, have you upgraded recently?
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:14 PM   #54
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I dont really care either way, the thing I hate is the elite crap the mac side tries to pull, and then act like a pc is only good to be used as a calculator, yet SOMEHOW millions of people manage to do EVERYTHING they need without drinking coffee or buying a mac. lol
I agree man, it is just SILLY fight anymore....macs and pc's are both awesome machines, there is no need to fight with someone because they prefer one over the other

one thing I always notice though, is when a pc user speaks up about using a pc in a group of mac people, all KINDS of mis-information flies

but when a mac user speaks up about using a mac in a group of pc people, pc people get inquisitive and ask questions

wonder why that is?
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:15 PM   #55
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and just to squash everyones view that I am a mac hater...I have 3 computers in my house, 1 mac and 2 pc, plus I am about to order a new macbook in the next month
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:16 PM   #56
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wtf are you running, windows 98?

I have two machines running windows xp
I never get pop up notifications
I activated ONCE, a year ago
I have not had any virus issues in at least a year
spyware isn't even an issue, complicated dialog menus? um, yeah, us smart people like more options, sorry if it confuses you
drivers? I plug in new shit and it works, what are you having issues with?
security? in what way?

you really sound lik you are running an old version of windows, have you upgraded recently?
Its pretty hard to run XP "I tell you what"


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Old 02-04-2007, 05:20 PM   #57
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Its pretty hard to run XP "I tell you what"
LOL...i don't know how all those old grandpas do it, they must spend all their days scratching their heads and picking their butts trying to figure out all those complicated menu doo hickeys
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:23 PM   #58
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I use dashboard a lot as well - write my own little javascript apps to keep a check on my websites... how many new posts, new submits, server load, etc - very very simple, yet beautiful
That's cool. I've been meaning to look into doing things like that.

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And I fully agree on Applescript - my desktop is full of them to speed everything up.
I've also been meaning to look into Ruby bridge for applescript.

http://rubyosa.rubyforge.org/

I really like the idea of controlling applications via high level languages like ruby, or python. RubyCocoa and PyObjC are also things that make my panties moist.
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:25 PM   #59
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these religious discussions remind me of Atari versus Amiga - they're both dead today































And Atari TOS was better

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Old 02-04-2007, 05:31 PM   #60
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The new mac pro's and mac book pros are crazy fast and reliable, even when running windows (XP, soon I will through vista on and test).
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Old 02-04-2007, 06:40 PM   #61
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I shoot in 1080i at a resolution of 1920x1080. HDV IS the best choice hands down for online HD content period.

Btw since you have forgot more than I know, please lets hear what HD camera or HDV camera you currently own, or have own, or have shot with. Ive seen several statements you've made about HD that are completly wrong, and many of the big content producers shooting in HD told you you were wrong.
Who has said I was wrong, actually a few have agreed with me especially those who shoot with hvx200. The cams I have tried sony fx ,z1 and Ive tired the hvx200 (which is true hd).I was very excited when HDV came out , sat thru demo of the first one which was a jvc one chipper,then sat thru the sony ones.None of them impressed me and my friend who shoots fulltime mainstream still shoots most of his stuff on beta. Ive studied videography under a man who has won a Emmy,I studied cinemography under a award winning independent film maker. I just dont see the small porn world. I have yet to see porn footage on hdv that was nothing to write home about.People go a wow not because its better its because its bigger but that dont mean better. The only hd footage on line that truly blew me away was for RED.

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Old 02-04-2007, 07:53 PM   #62
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Old 02-04-2007, 08:04 PM   #63
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I have yet to see porn footage on hdv that was nothing to write home about.
I have to agree with you there, most of the HD stuff I have seen in porn is just like the rest of the porn I have seen, just bigger
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Old 02-04-2007, 08:26 PM   #64
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LOL those were great
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Old 02-04-2007, 08:31 PM   #65
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I have to agree with you there, most of the HD stuff I have seen in porn is just like the rest of the porn I have seen, just bigger
Here wanna see what HDV can do? This film was shot with the FX1 and Z1U both HDV cams.

Its 1.3GB but the torrent is incredibly fast.

Download the torrent
http://www.zudeo.com/az-web/download...T74WRQ.torrent

Goto the preview on that torrent site. Legal to download put there for public viewing.
http://www.zudeo.com/az-web/details/...J54T74WRQ.html

HDV is an incredible format.
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Old 02-04-2007, 08:34 PM   #66
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Btw thats only 720p too.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:39 PM   #67
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I have to agree with you there, most of the HD stuff I have seen in porn is just like the rest of the porn I have seen, just bigger
Jace, you should make a distinction between the people that are just using 'HD' as a selling point and the people that are actually striving for a higher level of quality. There are plenty of sites out there that are jumping on the ambiguity that is 'HD' and 'High Definition'. If the bitrate isn't at a minimum of 3.25Mbps for a 1280x720 wmv, the quality is lacking and you'll just get the it's 'just bigger' result.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:42 PM   #68
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Since last year... not much of a difference... both can run windows, both run on PC chips...
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Old 02-05-2007, 12:06 AM   #69
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Since last year... not much of a difference... both can run windows, both run on PC chips...
Actually there is a huge difference. Yes, both run Window but why anyone would need to run Wondows besides a couple of specialty apps is beyond me. Apple OS runs flawlessly with their hardware and the OS is light years beyond Windows.

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Old 02-05-2007, 12:11 AM   #70
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Jace, you should make a distinction between the people that are just using 'HD' as a selling point and the people that are actually striving for a higher level of quality. There are plenty of sites out there that are jumping on the ambiguity that is 'HD' and 'High Definition'. If the bitrate isn't at a minimum of 3.25Mbps for a 1280x720 wmv, the quality is lacking and you'll just get the it's 'just bigger' result.
I know about the sites selling something they don't have, that has been happening since the invention of paysites

that sample you posted looks all right, but still doesn't make me wanna believe that hd for porn is this amazing innovation....it looks like just high quality shot porn to me
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Old 02-05-2007, 12:13 AM   #71
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Actually there is a huge difference. Yes, both run Window but why anyone would need to run Wondows besides a couple of specialty apps is beyond me. Apple OS runs flawlessly with their hardware and the OS is light years beyond Windows.

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please go into more detail, because all that you did was exactly what every mac user does, just spew out vague cut downs without any backing up of you claims

let's do it this way, if I had a dual xeon 4gb ram box sitting here with me, why would a mac be better than that?
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Here wanna see what HDV can do? This film was shot with the FX1 and Z1U both HDV cams.

Its 1.3GB but the torrent is incredibly fast.

Download the torrent
http://www.zudeo.com/az-web/download...T74WRQ.torrent

Goto the preview on that torrent site. Legal to download put there for public viewing.
http://www.zudeo.com/az-web/details/...J54T74WRQ.html

HDV is an incredible format.
yes, but is that porn? I agree that HD is awesome shot for hollywood movies, my point is that I haven't seen any porn that makes it worth it...some is a little higher quality, but usually just bigger...LOL

i will say this though, if porn is going to take the step in the HD direction, it is going to have to start using better backdrops than motel beds and crappy furniture...step out of the box and fuck on a bridge that overlooks a beautiful landscape, or find some old warehouse settings and light them up all spectacular, etc....

the few samples I have seen are just hotels or 80's mansions with the same old props, nothing that brings out the "HD" in the dvd
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OSX = For people who like being told what to do.
Windows = For people who like like to point, click and can problem solve.
Linux = For people who like to feel smarter than the average person and like to type everything in rather than click it.
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OSX = For people who like being told what to do.
Windows = For people who like like to point, click and can problem solve.
Linux = For people who like to feel smarter than the average person and like to type everything in rather than click it.
It wasn't funny the other 3 times you said it either.
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It wasn't funny the other 3 times you said it either.
It's not meant to be funny. It's fact.
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It's not meant to be funny. It's fact.
Well maybe you should explain it, cuz none of them make any sense. Mac people like to be told what to do, and Windows like to click? uh.. ok.
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Old 02-05-2007, 04:41 AM   #77
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Wait.... when did that happen?
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