kytec

I have used a pc all my life. I want to buy a Mac pro computer becouse there are some nice video and photo editing softwares that will not work on windows.

Which do you think is better and why? Is there a big learning curve for mac?

Thanks for all your input.

Martin3

They're both PC's now

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di0de

I grew up with PCs - when I switched to mac last march, all I could say was "omfg - computers 2.0!" It honestly took about a month to get used to it - but os x just ends up making sooo much sense. I did re-map my keyboard though. Overall, i'd say do it - you'll only thank yourself... there are 0 downsides to mac.

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kytec

anyone regretting moving to a mac

kytec

who likes single 30" monitor or 20" dual monitors

borked

They have always both been PC's ;)

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kytec

ok mac vs windows

ayne468

I haven't used a mac since I was at school...

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stickyfingerz

Wait there should be some Macrons coming in here soon..

bogo

The only mac i will ever buy is a Big Mac.

tony286

if the cost wasnt so high to get in at my level ,I would do it . If I learned final cut pro at the same level I know vegas. I could make a good chunk doing mainstream editing.

StuartD

As much as people like to compare the two, I still think they're two different things and have two different purposes. Do your research based on what you'll be using it primarily for and make a decision after that.

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haha good point. but i have always found that the only thing macs are better for is photo/video editing. And of course as most people know there arent many viruses made for macs. But yeah thats my little scoop

kytec

i do photo and webdesign and there are better apps for mac for those purposes

borked

I don't agree - a user's workflow is much more streamlined on a Mac.

Take the simple shit called labels. From opening up a new finder window, I can find what document I'm working on within a matter of seconds, nomatter how deep just from following labels.

Take automator - without knowing any programming language I can create a custom workflow or take one of the hundreds of premade ones to one unlimited actions on my OS

Take applescript - I can create shit easy scripts to open any file I edited on 31 January, 1984 or create custom menus for current projects (an excellent feature)

Take smart folders - without moving files around or manually creating alisases, I can group all my current documents in one folder, I can stick any php file edited in the last week in a single folder etc etc

The Mac isn't more powerful than Windows, it just makes your life easier.


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and for me anyway, easier is more productive

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jixxi

I've been using windows for 10 years. But based on what I've heard, I might switch to mac soon.

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stickyfingerz

What in the world makes you think a mac is required for mainstream editing? FCP is very close to Adobe Premiere Pro. In fact the guy that made it left Adobe to do so.

stickyfingerz

Such as?

kytec

apateur and final cut pro and ones that i need to work with

Himuro

I'll never get tired of that new Macron word

stickyfingerz

Link me to this apateur you speak of. and final cut pro is near identical to Adobe Premiere pro

tony286

because you go to mainstream sites they ask for it by name

stickyfingerz

Shame someone already has Macron.com

stickyfingerz

When in 1999 ? You have a link as an example? This used to be said about audio recording too which Ive done since 1998. Must use a mac, have to, must


Btw Macron.com was gone, so I got WhatIsaMacron.com

ucv.karl

Don't forget the Photoshop Automator plugin.

http://www.completedigitalphotography.com/?p=339

It's very useful.

Applescript is one of those somewhat hidden gems of OSX. It short, it provides 'hooks' into many of your programs (e.g., Photoshop, TextEdit, QuickTime Player, iPhoto, iTunes, etc...) and is isanely useful. Between Automator and Applescript, you can minimize the amount of time doing repetitious/tedious tasks.

Also, why hasn't anyone mentioned Spotlight, or QuickSilver?

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tony286

You dont know what your talking about, for mainstream they ask for two programs final cut pro and avid. Almost no asks for vegas or PPro.
http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/70/856810?
http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/70/856767?
http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/70/856732?
http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/70/856725?

This is just first page.

Nookster

Not true unless all you do is graphics crap. If you're a real web developer there's about a million downsides.

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Dvae

Its only a matter of time before you will be using a Mac and singing its praises.

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J.P.

The only downside I see is I cannot check if the site works properly in IE on Windows... What are the other downsides?

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stickyfingerz

Haha ya someone told me that back in the late 90's that I would switch to mac if I wanted to be able to keep recording demos... lol Its now almost harder to find recording equip for macs than it is for pcs.

stickyfingerz

Oh so those are huge companies. What stock name are they traded under... lol

ucv.karl

What 'development' are you referring to? C++ GUI Programming?

If you have one of the new Intel Apple computers, just boot it up in XP using Bootcamp (or use Parallels within OSX) and do your development in windows. Or you can boot in XP and see how IE7 looks with your design, or graphic 'development' appears to windows users.

Note: running XP doesn't involve emulation or any kludgy nonsense like that.

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Bill Gates just told this to Newsweek:

"Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally. I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16934083/site/newsweek/

tony286

You must not know who to read , I said mainstream. Not huge and no huge production company uses PPRO
one of them is pietown : http://pietown.tv/index1.html they are pretty big

God you are so arrogant and you know nothing

borked

The photoshop automator script site is borking, but I'll definately check that out later.

Spotlight goes without saying - it's not an app, it's the OS, but hell yeah, it's absolutely fantastic. Realtime text searching even in image documents...

I use dashboard a lot as well - write my own little javascript apps to keep a check on my websites... how many new posts, new submits, server load, etc - very very simple, yet beautiful

And I fully agree on Applescript - my desktop is full of them to speed everything up.

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TSGlider

I use windows but like macs too. The big reason I use windows--other than the price--is that it's easier to walk potential clients through sites, programs, etc. if we're both using the same platform. It's easy enough to get tripped up while communicating through different browser versions, to say nothing of browsers.

So if I'm pitching to someone green, someone who isn't remotely comfortable on a computer or online, odds are he's on Windows XP, and I can IM him the baby steps simply enough:

"Okay, so you see the big START button in the lower left corner of the screen...right, that one...click that...now..." etc.

If we were on two completely different platforms, the process would be unnerving--more frustrating for me and, more importantly, potentially more frustrating for the client.

Yes, I know you can install XP on Mac now.

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macmark

Honestly, Macs and PCs do the same thing. Just how they do them is slightly different. I don't buy the whole mac is better for graphics thing, nor do I buy the whole windows is better for business thing.

I love my macs, I never ever say that about any of my PCs. I hate all the bullshit that comes with a windows PC nowadays, settings scattered throughout the OS, Pop up notification bubbles, activation, viruses, spyware, complicated dialog menus, drivers, security etc etc.

For me, the mac just feels better. I love using it, I love the hardware, I love the community, I love the software.

The difference is mac users love their macs and OS X, very rarely do you hear people say the same about Windows. Whatever you use is cool I guess.

macmark

Yea, and he's getting slated for it. I think the fact he has no proof may be something to do with it

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/03/c...guys-break-the

I've seen a few Bill Gates interviews on TV recently, nearly everytime someone is asking him why Vista borrows so much from OS X and you can tell it's pissing him off

stickyfingerz

Yes Ive seen your comments about HD. lol

stickyfingerz

I love all my PCs

macmark

shit really? you should try a mac, you'll want to marry it ;-)

tony286

Ive forgot more about HD then you know and you dont shoot HD ,you shoot HDV. Its a consumer codec.

tony286

Sorry not codec I meant format, see sticky its easy to say I was wrong. Makes you look more like a adult.

Dvae

Marry it?
Hell, I'd have sex with all of mine if I could.

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goldmine

Mac sucks!!!

Mac is not for gaming

Mac and virus

and the main reason to use a pc...

Ryan St. Germain

I have both mac and pc in my office, and I can say without a doubt that I prefer mac. I find myself curing the pc everytime I have to use it (which i do daily).
When it comes to creative apps (photo/vid/audio), i don't think PC can even compete with MAC.
When it comes to book keeping and other software options, i'll admit that the Mac options frustrate me sometimes. When trying to get tax software that would allow me to print a 1099, I ended up having to go with PC software, for lack of availability.
There are both sides of the coin for you. It really depends on what you intend to do with this computer.
Oh, and as others have already stated, it's now possible to run Windows on your MAC.

PS, MAC fixes exploits in record time compared to windows, who uses the launch as the actual beta-test, waiting to hear back from the first buy suckers that got owned, so they can figure out what's wrong with it.

stickyfingerz

I shoot in 1080i at a resolution of 1920x1080. HDV IS the best choice hands down for online HD content period.

Btw since you have forgot more than I know, please lets hear what HD camera or HDV camera you currently own, or have own, or have shot with. Ive seen several statements you've made about HD that are completly wrong, and many of the big content producers shooting in HD told you you were wrong.

ucv.karl

Someday Apple computers will use those insanely powerful chips.

Wait.... when did that happen?

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