Biz Thread: What stats are more important? - GoFuckYourself.com

Sharky · 03-19-2007, 06:59 AM

I'm going through a NATS config right now and am wondering what are more important to webmasters..

1st page unique
2nd page unique
Join hits?

would you rather have 1st and 2nd page shown with no join clicks? or 2nd page and join clicks? or 1st and join?

What stat is more important to you?

nekrom · 03-19-2007, 07:12 AM

Well for me, all stats other then unique 1st page, are pretty useless imo.

-N

Sharky · 03-19-2007, 07:24 AM

Thanks.

Anyone else?

zigx · 03-19-2007, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nekrom

Well for me, all stats other then unique 1st page, are pretty useless imo.

-N

ditto that shit... the rest just skew ur results unless you own the site... then u should be using that data to UP the conversion ratio.

Vegas Ken · 03-19-2007, 07:29 AM

If you are going to bundle two together I woud say 1st and join.
I mainly look at 1st uniques and our overall conversion ratios.

Kevsh · 03-19-2007, 07:31 AM

Income per unique (1st page) click ... though I don't think NATS has that option.

For me, that is really the only stat that matters and for 99% of programs, it's a manual calculation.

Isol8ter · 03-19-2007, 07:34 AM

Hits / Uniques / Conversions

scottybuzz · 03-19-2007, 07:36 AM

i like joins, shows how well the site is made, to persuade the surfer to click that join page

Sharky · 03-19-2007, 07:37 AM

I too like 1st page unique, however it seems like most programs these days base their conversions off 2nd page.
Does anyone really care about the join clicks? Its valuable info to the paysite owner, but not really the webmaster. If the conversions are there, who cares how many clicks the join does or does not get?

Sharky · 03-19-2007, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

i like joins, shows how well the site is made, to persuade the surfer to click that join page

But don't you also feel its a source of frustration? The more clicks to the join the better, I know. But does that stat really make a difference in whether you will promot a sponsor or not? Or will you promote a sponsor with that info over another if the conversiosn are the same?

JamesK2 · 03-19-2007, 07:41 AM

The $ earned per signup and click

kristin · 03-19-2007, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharky

I too like 1st page unique, however it seems like most programs these days base their conversions off 2nd page.
Does anyone really care about the join clicks? Its valuable info to the paysite owner, but not really the webmaster. If the conversions are there, who cares how many clicks the join does or does not get?

Because you want to see if your surfers are even making it to the join page. A webmaster may use this info to utilize a new tour or to make some changes to their promotion. Any stat is useful. : )

Sosa · 03-19-2007, 08:12 AM

I like seeing first page uniques. But the most important is total at the end of the day

RawAlex · 03-19-2007, 08:46 AM

The more stats you put out the better. 1st page raw, 1st page unique, 2page unique, join page hits... these are all valid things to know, as they are clear indications of how the surfers are working their way through the tours.

Example, high 1st page but low second page often means your sales pitch sending the surfer isn't that good... or the tour itself isn't that good.

So the more you can make available, the better it is.

scottybuzz · 03-19-2007, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharky

But don't you also feel its a source of frustration? The more clicks to the join the better, I know. But does that stat really make a difference in whether you will promot a sponsor or not? Or will you promote a sponsor with that info over another if the conversiosn are the same?

well if the join hits are really high and no/little sales are coming then the problem logically lies in the processer, rather than the tour

I remember I had a problem some time ago, where i was sending purely british traffic to a sponser and to save costs they put on this european biller that required loads of extra info and hoops to climb through in order for the european surfer to signup. I of course only realised this by seeing the low conversion rate of joins, and checked the site out.

but yes, thats why I love join hits, but I would say unique second page are much better than raw.

WDjay · 03-19-2007, 09:05 AM

DOLLARS IN...........DOLLARS OUT !

thats all

zibril · 03-19-2007, 09:10 AM

1st and join, but joins show how good the site is...

A-Bomb · 03-19-2007, 09:13 AM

1st and joins

gAmE-MaStEr · 03-19-2007, 02:06 PM

1st and join too

Wizzo · 03-19-2007, 02:09 PM

dollars because I know how much traffic comes from a particular spot and so $$$$$ is what counts...

mikeyddddd · 03-19-2007, 02:11 PM

1st + join

Pinacolada · 03-19-2007, 02:46 PM

1st page unique most important for me...

Sharky · 03-21-2007, 07:54 AM

Thanks everyone. I'll take that into account when putting this together;-)

03-19-2007, 06:59 AM	#1
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03-19-2007, 07:12 AM	#2
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03-19-2007, 07:29 AM	#5
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03-19-2007, 07:34 AM	#7
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03-19-2007, 07:31 AM	#6
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	Income per unique (1st page) click ... though I don't think NATS has that option. For me, that is really the only stat that matters and for 99% of programs, it's a manual calculation.

03-19-2007, 07:36 AM	#8
scottybuzz Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Location: NY Posts: 14,800	i like joins, shows how well the site is made, to persuade the surfer to click that join page __________________ $$$$$ MAKE HUGE MONEY IN CAMS - CLICK HERE $$$$$

03-19-2007, 07:37 AM	#9
Sharky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,938	I too like 1st page unique, however it seems like most programs these days base their conversions off 2nd page. Does anyone really care about the join clicks? Its valuable info to the paysite owner, but not really the webmaster. If the conversions are there, who cares how many clicks the join does or does not get? __________________ Sharky

03-19-2007, 07:41 AM	#11
JamesK2 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 6,589	The $ earned per signup and click __________________

03-19-2007, 08:12 AM	#13
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	I like seeing first page uniques. But the most important is total at the end of the day

03-19-2007, 08:46 AM	#14
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	The more stats you put out the better. 1st page raw, 1st page unique, 2page unique, join page hits... these are all valid things to know, as they are clear indications of how the surfers are working their way through the tours. Example, high 1st page but low second page often means your sales pitch sending the surfer isn't that good... or the tour itself isn't that good. So the more you can make available, the better it is.

03-19-2007, 09:05 AM	#16
WDjay Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: So.Cal Posts: 381	DOLLARS IN...........DOLLARS OUT ! thats all __________________

03-19-2007, 09:10 AM	#17
zibril Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 731	1st and join, but joins show how good the site is...

03-19-2007, 09:13 AM	#18
A-Bomb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 1 of 3 holes Posts: 680	1st and joins

03-19-2007, 02:06 PM	#19
gAmE-MaStEr Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 896	1st and join too

03-19-2007, 02:09 PM	#20
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	dollars because I know how much traffic comes from a particular spot and so $$$$$ is what counts... __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

03-19-2007, 02:11 PM	#21
mikeyddddd Viva la vulva! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself Posts: 16,557	1st + join __________________ AdultStarProfits AmbyaCash AnilosCash AzianiGold ColdHardCash FlashTheMoney IdolBucks MediumPimpin NSCash Nubiles PussyCash ScoreCash Sextronix SpunkyCash TubeTitans Twistys

03-19-2007, 02:46 PM	#22
Pinacolada Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,300	1st page unique most important for me...

03-21-2007, 07:54 AM	#23
Sharky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,938	Thanks everyone. I'll take that into account when putting this together;-) __________________ Sharky