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Old 08-10-2002, 09:08 PM   #1
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Just to let you know the Greek letters you have for Nu Xi are wrong. It shoud be an N instead of the Pi symbol.

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Old 08-10-2002, 09:14 PM   #2
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You sure you guys actually were at Frat Parties...... I had a feeling I was right for once
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Old 08-10-2002, 09:18 PM   #3
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Well pipcrew sorry your wrong
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Old 08-10-2002, 09:29 PM   #4
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Well pipcrew sorry your wrong
Never thought I would see those words together in a sentence... Just admit you actually go to the parties and have the sex in a different room or at a studio and i will be happy

Wonder if you will take alot of heat from the Fraternity Head offices, since they are run like a business, I am sure they arent too happy but who knows!
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Thanks, Makingcoin. I'll go fix that. I was never in a fraternity. I was just going off what I saw. LOL

I'll hit them up and see what I can do.
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Old 08-10-2002, 09:40 PM   #6
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Hey pipecrew just join the website and watch the movies and we can end your doubt. Then you will see that these girls are getting fucked in front of large groups of college kids in real frat houses. It very easy to tell that this footage is real specially when there 80 people in the background screaming and chanting there fraternity and no we didn't use CGI to add this effect
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Old 08-10-2002, 09:43 PM   #7
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so those 80 people dont mind that they are being broadcast all over the internet? i find that hard to believe that you'd have all those releases?


I guess if you offer to buy all the beer at the party, it could work out
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Its simple these fraternities just want bragging privileges about how wild their parties get so we just show up and film the party and then we stir up some competition with the other frat house's tell them how off the hook the previous party were and now their all try to out do each other. So now its just a big compitatuion on who can throw a bigger and better party.

And there all aware that the fottage its going on the interent.
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Old 08-10-2002, 09:57 PM   #9
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not trying to get in to you two's pissing match but don't you still need releases when you are profiting off of somebody elses likeness?
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Old 08-10-2002, 10:05 PM   #10
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Yes, you do need release form for anyone that participates in any of the sex act. We get them to sign the forms when there done having fun. It's not all the time easy we had a few girls that were just fucken trash and they just start sucking off random guys and at the end of the night when they sobered up they didn't want sign the release form so we just discarded the footage. but now i learned to get them to sign when there drunk and not sober;)
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I mean,even innocent by-standers..I'm pretty sure you need their concent to profit from their likeness... I know that applies to t.v. ,should apply in this situation too
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because I wouldn't want to be at a frat party drunk as hell watching people go at it and than you broadcast it to half the world and maybe my parents who sent me to college for an education, to see lol
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if you're completely tanked and sign any sort of contract...
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well hopefull ill make a few billion before i get sued. But its like girls gone wild if you know someone is video taping and you dont want be on camera just leave or stay out of sight. They won a few lawsuits stress that point. But if i caught a girl fighting her way threw the croud to see her girl friend sucking off some guy and she tell me me she doest want be on film i just edit her out .

but so far no complaints all the frat house have visited the website and they love it and so does the surfer the site is doing quite well if anyone is wondering.
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if you're completely tanked and sign any sort of contract...

did bells go off in your head? I also go the siren that said "i cant believe he just said that"
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Yes, you do need release form for anyone that participates in any of the sex act. We get them to sign the forms when there done having fun. It's not all the time easy we had a few girls that were just fucken trash and they just start sucking off random guys and at the end of the night when they sobered up they didn't want sign the release form so we just discarded the footage. but now i learned to get them to sign when there drunk and not sober;)

I'm really sorry to see a webmaster make a comment like that


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but now i learned to get them to sign when there drunk and not sober;)
If you're serious man...this last statement could be held against you.
That's why I thought I'm imortalize it with a quote ;)
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Oh come on loose up people this parties are fun and everone that participates has a great time we get call all the time from frat house that want be featured on CFF. This site is done in good taste everyone who is shown is aware before hand and concented to what they did. the only people to see to have a problem is some of you webmaster. Strange
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So RedShoe, you left your FX job to work with people like that huh ?? Not the sharpest tool's in the shed me think's, sounds like they will find themselves in court more than not.

I bet they will regret saying that on this board if it ever show's up in a laswsuit that they are in


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the comment about being sober when signing was a joke
when is triplexcash coming out with its new line of Pills? Rohipnal and the rest of them ? I wish you the best of luck but you guys should talk to a lawyer to be safe cause this is gonna blow up in your face i guarantee
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the comment about being sober when signing was a joke
Sure as hell could have fooled me.
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thanks pipecrew we did speake with a lawer first and we did get all the proper release forms to make everything legal. We make sure everyone is aware of are being there and if they have a problem they leave or we edit them out if there face was caputured on video. We got a good repor going with the frat houses that why you will see many parties to come.
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So RedShoe, you left your FX job to work with people like that huh ?? Not the sharpest tool's in the shed me think's, sounds like they will find themselves in court more than not.

I bet they will regret saying that on this board if it ever show's up in a laswsuit that they are in


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HCH, I'm not sure what I ever did to you to get such praise. Until you've done FX for 9 years, don't judge. I have emotional scars that are definitely going to fuck me up well into my 40's for the degrading shit I had to in FX. The things dumb people do to see there name on a screen 5 feet wide. It's not worth it. (don't believe me? Watch "swimming with sharks" sometime)

As for working on the CFF project, I couldn't be happier. The people have all been 1000 times nicer, and happier than ANYONE I ever met in FX. This board has offred great support and acceptance in this project. There have only been a handful of peole that just insist on bashing the program. But, to each his own.

If you can be a webmaster, and honestly sit there and think that this whole project hasn't been run thru a lawyer, many, many times you shouldn't be a webmaster. LOL

We really do go to real frat houses, we really film sex acts right there in front of everyone. People are having a great time. College students get drunk, and get crazy. And we're here to sell it to the masses. The CollegeFuckFest has had an awesome start, and is getting even better. If you want in and make some cash with us, you know what to do.

GFY was started so we could all gather and discuss new ideas, and try new things. It's also a place to hang out and have fun. However, I don't think bashing a program just for the sake of bashing it, is really helping anyone. I don't know what else to tell you about the parties.

Bottom line guys, we're all here to make money. Make it with us, and we'll help you in any way that we can. Don't join us, and I'll only help you a little.
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Very Well said RedShoe,

Do i get a membership now for pointing that mistake out... hehe
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CollegeFuckFest.com contains 100% real students, going to real colleges, shot in real frat houses. These videos and photos are raw and uncut. We were suprised at how wild these girls got. At first they are a bit shy, but as they night goes on, they open up (literally) and they get really wild.

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just wanted to know if every site you build, are you going to announce it?...opens up for some high quality bashing
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Thanks for point that out Sly_RJ i think it time for me to get hook on phonics
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did bells go off in your head? I also go the siren that said "i cant believe he just said that"
me too id edit taht fucker before it showed up in court when some alabama redneck saw his daughter slobbin a knob all drunk
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Thanks, Makingcoin. I'll go fix that. I was never in a fraternity. I was just going off what I saw. LOL

I'll hit them up and see what I can do.
Redshoe,

To prevent any legal problems, compare your greek letters to national greek letter organization listings [you can search for this via google]. They're very touchy about their marks being used in a light that dilutes its value/meaning to the public.

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HCH, I'm not sure what I ever did to you to get such praise. Until you've done FX for 9 years, don't judge. I have emotional scars that are definitely going to fuck me up well into my 40's for the degrading shit I had to in FX. The things dumb people do to see there name on a screen 5 feet wide. It's not worth it. (don't believe me? Watch "swimming with sharks" sometime)

As for working on the CFF project, I couldn't be happier. The people have all been 1000 times nicer, and happier than ANYONE I ever met in FX. This board has offred great support and acceptance in this project. There have only been a handful of peole that just insist on bashing the program. But, to each his own.

If you can be a webmaster, and honestly sit there and think that this whole project hasn't been run thru a lawyer, many, many times you shouldn't be a webmaster. LOL

We really do go to real frat houses, we really film sex acts right there in front of everyone. People are having a great time. College students get drunk, and get crazy. And we're here to sell it to the masses. The CollegeFuckFest has had an awesome start, and is getting even better. If you want in and make some cash with us, you know what to do.

GFY was started so we could all gather and discuss new ideas, and try new things. It's also a place to hang out and have fun. However, I don't think bashing a program just for the sake of bashing it, is really helping anyone. I don't know what else to tell you about the parties.

Bottom line guys, we're all here to make money. Make it with us, and we'll help you in any way that we can. Don't join us, and I'll only help you a little.

Not bashing your program RedShoe, mearly pointing out the obvious that dumb fucks that make statements like your buddy Asthma about getting the sig while they are drunk, make my skin craw, it should send a bell off in your head !! And even if he was joking, I'm sure that those many Lawyers that they spoke with before launching the program, would drop dead in their $5000 suits if they saw his comment on a public message board. I have nothing but respect for you, and I'm sorry if you thought my comments were an attack on you, they are not. As for Asthma he can suck the sweat off my left nut sack. The sooner people like him get dragged into court and sued for every dime they have, the better. Most of the older webmasters on the board have got families and kids, and I doubt that a lot of them would like to hear how their drunk 18 daughter got banged by the football defensive line, and that it was all legal since she signed a consent form before she passed out from all the alcohol that was given too her

You feel free to make your dollars however you want, you've got to look yourself in the mirror each morning. Just remember that there is a little thing called karma, which works both ways, and someday it might just bite you in the ass my friend. Good luck with your site dude.


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Redshoe, If I were you guys I would intentionally mess up all the frat's greek letters that don't sign a legal consent form. Most of the surfers have no clue which ones are real or not anyway. There's so many pan-hellenic frats out there that it's impossible to keep track of all the off-brand letters. But it seems like that might be what you are doing anyway.



It sucks that fellow webmasters would quote a potentially legally dangerous statement and possibly put another webmaster in a bind due to a simple dumb statement. That's not cool guys. Redshoe has been one of the nicest board members. Never do that.

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Redshoe, If I were you guys I would intentionally mess up all the frat's greek letters that don't sign a legal consent form. Most of the surfers have no clue which ones are real or not anyway. There's so many pan-hellenic frats out there that it's impossible to keep track of all the off-brand letters. But it seems like that might be what you are doing anyway.



It sucks that fellow webmasters would quote a potentially legally dangerous statement and possibly put another webmaster in a bind due to a simple dumb statement. That's not cool guys. Redshoe and Asthma have been 2 of the nicest board members. Never do that.
Maybe he shouldn't have made the statement then, and no one would have a reason to get up and in his face with it ??


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Hey Red my post wasn't bashing in fact it was a joke hence the wink...however you say you guys have run this all by the lawyers...well let me refresh you on a couple of statements made by Asthma:

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Getting forms signed after you are done is not a smart move at all.
#1 the reason you get model releases signed BEFORE filming is to ensure that everyone is 18+.
Waiting until they are "done" having fun could lead to cp charges if anyone involved happens to be a minor.

I am currently interviewing models for a future project of my own and I have specifically told models that I will not even discuss anything with them unless they bring 2 forms of id to prove who they are and what age they are.


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I really can't say anymore regarding model releases...I'm not a lawyer and don't even pretend I understand all the complexities involving usc 2557...but this horrible business practice in both the legal and financial sense.
Not only are you risking jail time, but possible lawsuits as well as spending time setting up a shoot and paying for models and then you can't even use the end product because it had to be "discarded."

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This last statement I kinda figured it MIGHT be a joke...however if you read it in the context of the whole paragraph that it was written in I have questions...serious questions that it may be.
And I guarantee you any judge or jury would as well.


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After reading all of Asthma's statements I doubt very seriously you guys are following the advice of your attornies.

But good luck with the site anyway...I don't wish ill will on anyone in this biz except for metax ;)
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It sucks that fellow webmasters would quote a potentially legally dangerous statement and possibly put another webmaster in a bind due to a simple dumb statement. That's not cool guys. Redshoe has been one of the nicest board members. Never do that.
It sucks that webmasters would post a potentially legally dangerous statement as well as a number of others.

I think this goes along with the whole killing the messenger thing
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Old 08-10-2002, 11:57 PM   #37
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Eros, you are absolutely correct about the legalities. I couldn't agree more. I still think the bonehead comments that Asthma made should be deleted by him, and you should delete that quote. They have a great idea with the College Fuck Fest that can be destroyed now by anyone who reads this thread that has malicious intent. I would hate to see that happen to Redshoe. Asthma is a bonehead no doubt, but this could balloon to something much bigger if it isn't handled now. I can see the Ox guys or SIC or another company taking this idea and running with it in no time flat, especially if their site hits a bump in the road thanks to a stupid comment on a board. That would suck bigtime.
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Old 08-10-2002, 11:58 PM   #38
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Hey eroswebmaster if you go view our trailers you will notice that everone is wearing a rist band which is required to enter the party at that point we check ids and make sure their of legal age and then we make then sign a waiver stating that they their faces will be showen on the website ect.
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Old 08-11-2002, 12:07 AM   #39
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Let me ask you a question, are you providing the drinks at these parties too ??


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Old 08-11-2002, 12:12 AM   #40
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No we just ask the frat house before hand if we can show up at 1 one of their parties and shot footage for our website.
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Old 08-11-2002, 12:19 AM   #41
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Hey eroswebmaster if you go view our trailers you will notice that everone is wearing a rist band which is required to enter the party at that point we check ids and make their of legal age and then we make then sign a waiver stating that they their faces will be showen on the website ect.
Dude...I'm just quoting what you are spouting off on here.

And according to my lawyer here it's not enough that you check the id but you have to inspect it to ensure that it hasn't been tampered with etc.

It's not like no one at a college frat party has ever had a bogus id...LOL

You're just asking for trouble not getting model releases signed BEFORE you stage these things.

I was watching O'reilly the other night can't recall exactly where this case took place it was either Georgia or Floriday...anyway some club put on a live sex show and the cops raided it.
Well guess what...one of the females there who had claimed she was 19 was only 16...bada bing bada bang.

Now guess who gets to sign the ol' sex offender registry for the rest of his life ;)
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Old 08-11-2002, 12:22 AM   #42
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Asthma -

I have no idea who you are, or what your background is. But I will offer you a friendly piece of advise. When in doubt to one's ignorance it's best not to prove it by opening one's mouth! I hope that what your doing is 100% above board. If you want to be funny "ha ha" and joke around I would suggest that you not do so about your business/sites, get a fucking alias like boneprone and do it in that context, don't open yourself up to criticism and ridicule with offhand comment's like what you made in the above post. And I say this not to berate you, but hopefully to open your eyes to how what you said can be misconstrue and taken the wrong way by a number of folks. Good luck in your venture!


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Old 08-11-2002, 12:32 AM   #43
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eroswebmaster Dont get me wrong I appricate your comment and your concerns im very aware of those possibility been doing this for 9yrs now but let me insure you that strict percautions are taken. the first step is to check there ids at the door and give them risk bands and have them sign the waivers now if a girl is intrested in having sex she will confront us first then we check for 2 forms of id and if we decieide we want use the footage then we procede to the next step and have them sign the release form ect.

This website is run very professinal and 100% legal is sad that a few of you got so affended to such a oviouse joke. you think im that stupid to make a comment like that if it wasent intented to be a joke.
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Old 08-11-2002, 12:37 AM   #44
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Tim thanks but i dont need your friendly advice when we can laught together at a stupid joke then we can be friends
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Old 08-11-2002, 12:42 AM   #45
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you think im that stupid to make a comment like that if it wasent intented to be a joke.
I have no fucking idea what you think is a joke and what you don't. All I know is that you have fewer that 100 posts here, and you were making some pretty stupid comments about what should be a very serious matter to you, the business that put's money into your pocket every day. So in the future I would suggest that you make it very apperant when you are joking around, and when your not


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eroswebmaster Dont get me wrong I appricate your comment and your concerns im very aware of those possibility been doing this for 9yrs now but let me insure you that strict percautions are taken. the first step is to check there ids at the door and give them risk bands and have them sign the waivers now if a girl is intrested in having sex she will confront us first then we check for 2 forms of id and if we decieide we want use the footage then we procede to the next step and have them sign the release form ect.

This website is run very professinal and 100% legal is sad that a few of you got so affended to such a oviouse joke. you think im that stupid to make a comment like that if it wasent intented to be a joke.


dude didn't you say you film them and THEN ask for id afterwards? That wasn't a joke... kind of contradicting yourself...but whatever... I'm not the police so you don't have to prove anything to me ...and I don't think anybody is bashing the site,you should take it as people are TRYING to look after you and give you sound advice
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Old 08-11-2002, 12:44 AM   #47
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Guys, guys. LOL, Seriously. Jokes, man. Jokes. Relax.

You guys have all done this long enough to know what's up. You all should know me by now.

Being a father myself, I would never do anything to ANYONE without covering EVERY base. The last thing I want is to raise baby RedShoe from prison. LOL

I think some of you might be taking all this a little too seriusly. And Tim (HCH), c'mon guy, it was all meant as a joke to sort of point out how ridiculous this all is. Like I said, all bases are covered.

Hey, not everyone thought Andrew Dice Clay's humor was very acceptable, but I thought he was fuckin' hilarious, so did Mrs. RedShoe. My point is, we are just joking with those that are trying to bash the program.

No matter what you try to do in life, there is always going to be an opposition. I've been told that before, but now I understand it.

I agree with Tim on the issue of Karma. I try to be nice to people, and (sometimes goofy) on the boards.

Suddenly I feel like a magician when someone asks him how he does Magic. No matter what he says, they are never satisified, until he shows them hows it's done.

That said, everything is on the level guys. Seriously. Join up, make some cash, or not. We hope that you would sign up, and you will see for yourself that people really are into this type of content. We work with the webmasters, and will help you in any way that we can. When you make money we make money. So it's in our best interest to help as many people as we can.
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Old 08-11-2002, 12:53 AM   #48
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yes nocostporn we do check there ids after there done having fun then i take their IDS to my portible copy maching and make copys. their no point in making copys before hand if i dont use the footage Those are thing one does in the adult bussiess to protect themself
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Red Shoe your the best im glad your apart of this team
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