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MrPinks · 04-05-2007, 08:16 AM

The only solution that is going to work is all sponsors need to provide all affiliates with sanitized docs and/or use only softcore content that is 2257 exempt for affiliates to use for promotion. It's as simple as that. Yes, it's easily said but it will take a little bit of time to protect affiliates.

Kre8t0r · 04-05-2007, 08:50 AM

I'd have to agree with the "sanitized docs" idea but to cut U.S. webmasters off at the knees by only letting them have access to softcore material wouldn't be the best answer to this I think with the minds in this industry if we WANTED to we could manage something better.

Lets hope sponsor programs can see that the U.S. webmaster doesn't deserve to suffer in needless ways. It is hard enough to make sure all our ducks are in a row without having to find/remove any custom materials made by sponsors, FHG's, RSS feeds and so on...

MrPinks · 04-05-2007, 08:53 AM

Softcore content for US webmasters would only be if they choose not to provide docs. Honestly, I prefer to use softcore on my site because I like to keep hardcore for paying members. But I think sponsors really need to start using both options.

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Originally Posted by Kre8t0r

I'd have to agree with the "sanitized docs" idea but to cut U.S. webmasters off at the knees by only letting them have access to softcore material wouldn't be the best answer to this I think with the minds in this industry if we WANTED to we could manage something better.

Lets hope sponsor programs can see that the U.S. webmaster doesn't deserve to suffer in needless ways. It is hard enough to make sure all our ducks are in a row without having to find/remove any custom materials made by sponsors, FHG's, RSS feeds and so on...

FightThisPatent · 04-05-2007, 09:51 AM

only takes 1 sponsor to do so, and the domino affect can happen.

affiliates would most likely promote that program in feeling they will be better covered in being 2257 compliant, and may drop those that give them the liability exposure.

Fight the ripple effect!

ServerGenius · 04-05-2007, 09:56 AM

The real solution to 2257 is Europe ;-p

pornguy · 04-05-2007, 09:57 AM

I think that we might find if we were to leave a little to the imagination of the surfer, we might see a jump in sales. I see so many galleries with cum shots and everything that it is amazing.

Personally I find clothed women more sexually appealing now.

pornguy · 04-05-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ServerGenius

The real solution to 2257 is Europe ;-p

In the long run, you are going to find out, that this is not true.

The online gambeling company found out the hard way.

Bossman · 04-05-2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ServerGenius

The real solution to 2257 is Europe ;-p

Until some "bright" EU politician gets the same idea ;-p

Sosa · 04-05-2007, 10:01 AM

I have a feeling I'll be removing some sponsors over all of this.

BobG · 04-05-2007, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPinks

The only solution that is going to work is all sponsors need to provide all affiliates with sanitized docs and/or use only softcore content that is 2257 exempt for affiliates to use for promotion. It's as simple as that. Yes, it's easily said but it will take a little bit of time to protect affiliates.

That's what my lawyer just said.

04-05-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

only takes 1 sponsor to do so, and the domino affect can happen.

affiliates would most likely promote that program in feeling they will be better covered in being 2257 compliant, and may drop those that give them the liability exposure.

Fight the ripple effect!

Linke Bangbros has done in their hostes galleries for the last year? They are the only major change I've seen.

MrPinks · 04-05-2007, 10:36 AM

Maybe I should become a lawyer then, hahaha. Just kidding. It is the best solution in my opinion and the lack of responses from sponsors is actually quite discouraging.

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Originally Posted by BobG

That's what my lawyer just said.

FightThisPatent · 04-05-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by shermsshack

Linke Bangbros has done in their hostes galleries for the last year? They are the only major change I've seen.

i haven't checked in with bangbros, but hosted galleries are not a 2257 issue for affiliates, other than for the paysite.. since affiliates are linking into the FHG pages with their affiliate code, but the images come from the paysite, which would have the 2257 docs.

FHG is a good method for affiliates to use to promote a sponsor since they don't have to worry about 2257.

The concern is over banners and images provided to affiliates from sponsors that affiliates use on their own sites.

a side plug, affiliates should label their site with ASACP's RTA (restricted to adults label) found for free of use at http://www.rtalabel.org

Fight the plug!

Worried · 04-05-2007, 11:37 AM

I have a question, if we use softcore pics from a series, but the series has hardcore pictures, do we still need docs or no?

Sands · 04-05-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Worried

I have a question, if we use softcore pics from a series, but the series has hardcore pictures, do we still need docs or no?

From what I understand, yes.

MrPinks · 04-05-2007, 11:47 AM

I believe so. Sponosors will either have to use samples frm a softcore set or give us sanitized docs.

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Originally Posted by Worried

I have a question, if we use softcore pics from a series, but the series has hardcore pictures, do we still need docs or no?

Boobzooka · 04-05-2007, 12:28 PM

2257 requires the performers real name be cross-referenced with her aliases and the scene. So, depending on your definition of "sanitized", that either isn't going to protect the models, or isn't going to fulfill 2257.

MrPinks · 04-05-2007, 01:15 PM

Then they should go the softcore route for affiliates

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Originally Posted by DareRing

2257 requires the performers real name be cross-referenced with her aliases and the scene. So, depending on your definition of "sanitized", that either isn't going to protect the models, or isn't going to fulfill 2257.

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Worried · 04-05-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPinks

I believe so. Sponosors will either have to use samples frm a softcore set or give us sanitized docs.

From what I read a softcore thumb from a hardcore set on a thumb tgp will still need docs because it comes from a hardcore series. So that's why I was thinking softcore pics from a hard set will technically still need docs, just because the entire set is hardcore. Unless you promote a non-nude site and the entire set is just softcore.

MrPinks · 04-05-2007, 01:35 PM

They will have to use only softcore sets. allot a few sets to only use for promotion. Might have to shoot additional content but it will really help affiliates.

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Originally Posted by Worried

From what I read a softcore thumb from a hardcore set on a thumb tgp will still need docs because it comes from a hardcore series. So that's why I was thinking softcore pics from a hard set will technically still need docs, just because the entire set is hardcore. Unless you promote a non-nude site and the entire set is just softcore.

inabon · 04-05-2007, 01:38 PM

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Kre8t0r · 04-05-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

I think that we might find if we were to leave a little to the imagination of the surfer, we might see a jump in sales. I see so many galleries with cum shots and everything that it is amazing.

Personally I find clothed women more sexually appealing now.

I cant argue the logic of that but that has been the problem for a long time now. It is almost impossible to get that genie back in the bottle. Especially with this only affecting U.S. webmasters... Just my

04-05-2007, 08:16 AM	#1
MrPinks Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: FL Posts: 1,767	The only real solution to 2257, sponsors step inside too The only solution that is going to work is all sponsors need to provide all affiliates with sanitized docs and/or use only softcore content that is 2257 exempt for affiliates to use for promotion. It's as simple as that. Yes, it's easily said but it will take a little bit of time to protect affiliates.

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Kre8t0r Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: From Hurricane Hell to Frozen Hell Posts: 1,304	I'd have to agree with the "sanitized docs" idea but to cut U.S. webmasters off at the knees by only letting them have access to softcore material wouldn't be the best answer to this I think with the minds in this industry if we WANTED to we could manage something better. Lets hope sponsor programs can see that the U.S. webmaster doesn't deserve to suffer in needless ways. It is hard enough to make sure all our ducks are in a row without having to find/remove any custom materials made by sponsors, FHG's, RSS feeds and so on...

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Worried Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 149	I have a question, if we use softcore pics from a series, but the series has hardcore pictures, do we still need docs or no?

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