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georgeyw · 04-18-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Where guns are banned.. only the criminals have them.

I find this comment quite interesting.

Is it the criminals who are going on these gun rampages? Seems to me it is usually the mentally unstable who do?

maxjohan · 04-18-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Diane Feinstein: "US Senator, If I could have banned them all - 'Mr. and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!" (Statement on TV program 60 Minutes, Feb 5 1995)

This bitch has a carry permit from San Francisco

Adolf Hitler: "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations, Second Edition (1973), Pg. 425-426. Translated by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens.

Admiral Yamamoto: "You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Advising Japan's military leaders of the futility of an invasion of the mainland United States because of the widespread availability of guns. It has been theorized that this was a major contributing factor in Japan's decision not to land on North America early in the war when they had vastly superior military strength. This delay gave our industrial infrastructure time to gear up for the conflict and was decisive in our later victory.

President Theodore Roosevelt: "The great body of our citizens shoot less as times goes on. We should encourage rifle practice among schoolboys, and indeed among all classes, as well as in the military services by every means in our power. Thus, and not otherwise, may we be able to assist in preserving peace in the world... The first step ? in the direction of preparation to avert war if possible, and to be fit for war if it should come ? is to teach men to shoot!" ? President Theodore Roosevelt's last message to Congress.

And finally

Ted Nugent: "To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic."

Not the first time i see american propaganda on this board, huh?

Vick! · 04-18-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

You have a huge gun (crime) problem and many other countries dont have that problem. Why is that you think? Could it have anything to do with your country being flooded with guns?

Why dont you realize that the more guns there are in general the more dangerous it is and the bigger the problem gets.

Why dont you realize that it is statistically proven that its more likely accidents will (and do) happen with guns in houses which are there for "self protection" than that those same guns actually are used for self protection.

The moment a gun is available there is an extra risk of something bad thats gonna happen with it. A risk that wasnt there before. Why do you people fail to see that? Can someone explain that to me?

Though I am a gun pro but I really agree with you. Actually, there are two possibilities.

Either no one should have gun.

or

Everyone should have.

No like US itself, who likes to have Nuclear Bomb but don't like others to have just because they think others are irresponsible. And is not even agreed to destroy the whole shit.

By the way, first option is for ideal world, and since we do not live in an ideal one so let the second option be true.
Give everyone a gun so that other party is aware that if he uses his tool he will get a bullet in his ass.

For example, if Japan had Nuclear Bomb in WW2, USA would never dare to bomb poor Japanese. Unfortunately, Its true.

Vendzilla · 04-18-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan

Not the first time i see american propaganda on this board, huh?

two of the quotes were not american

but if your just not into reading, here's one last quote from a peace loving man

The Dalai Lama: "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." (May 15, 2001, The Seattle Times)

CheeseFrog · 04-18-2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Firearms Death Rate (per 100,000, age adjusted) for Selected Countries in one year between 1990 and 1995 (Krug, Powell and Dahlberg, 1998)

Look at the disparity between the US and Canada. Kinda weird considering Canada has almost exactly the same guns per capita as the US does (actually, more IIRC). Obviously guns themselves aren't the problem otherwise Canada would have similar gun-related death rates as the US.

Phil · 04-18-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

You have a huge gun (crime) problem and many other countries dont have that problem. Why is that you think? Could it have anything to do with your country being flooded with guns?

Why dont you realize that the more guns there are in general the more dangerous it is and the bigger the problem gets.

Why dont you realize that it is statistically proven that its more likely accidents will (and do) happen with guns in houses which are there for "self protection" than that those same guns actually are used for self protection.

The moment a gun is available there is an extra risk of something bad thats gonna happen with it. A risk that wasnt there before. Why do you people fail to see that? Can someone explain that to me?

and that Indian kid in Toronto was just passing by. You don't have problems. Oh, and Jamaican boys...

spunkmaster · 04-18-2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

This Dutch pussyfart loves to get attention by dragging you into a stat he manufactured. So here are some stats even this twink cocksucker will understand.

Country (with no guns) in WWII Netherlands

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

Total deaths: 205,900

Country (with guns) that saved this Dutch fags relatives from the Nazis. USA

The Nazis killed more Dutch people then American casualties in Korea, Viet Nam, and Iraq combined. So listen up fag, worry about your own country. You should be grateful to Americans and our gun laws because you would be sucking a big German cock if it was not for us.

Best post I've seen all year !

psili · 04-18-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

If its the man that kills, and not the weapon, and everyone should the right to carry it for protection, why not let every country in the world have nuclear bombs? Its not the bomb that kills, right?

Exactly fucking right.

Every person on this planet should be a responsible enough human being to be able to take care of a gun or a nuclear weapon. However, that's just not the case, due to so many factors in human behavior breeding more fucked up human behavior, that it becomes ridiculous.

It's the people and the proliferation of people that should be kept in check, not inanimate objects.

I'm not for eugenics or some shit, but fuck -- I'm surprised we lasted so long as a species where every Tom, Dick and Harry can fuck and make babies with Nancy, Sally and Shakula. What's even worse is that anyone holding true to a "religion" are puking out many more offspring than free-thinkers who just want to live.

tree · 04-18-2007, 08:54 PM

franck and other whiney non americans.....this is an American problem.

why dont you mind your OWN fucking business and stick to reading the news about whatever gunless pussyville country you live in k

nico-t · 04-19-2007, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Yes, he's that stupid.. Frank, the reason the Nazis did not invade Switzerland is because every household had a machine gun. Hitler did not want to get in a third front. This is basic EUR history they teach us in our "Imbecile" American schools.

holy shit... if they really teach you that fairy tale it's even worse than i thought

Shok · 04-19-2007, 07:50 AM

How many Bloods and Crips are in Holland?

What about MS13?

??

psili · 04-19-2007, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Shok

How many Bloods and Crips are in Holland?

What about MS13?

??

Dude, you never heard of the HCG (holland clog gang) ?

They don't need guns.
They'll shoe your ass to death with their wooded feet.

Shok · 04-19-2007, 08:12 AM

and stick a tulip in my dying ass

Dirty F · 04-19-2007, 08:14 AM

Why are you idiots unable to understand that America has a gun problem and many other countries dont? And then even worse, why are you so fucking proud of it?

Dirty F · 04-19-2007, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tree

franck and other whiney non americans.....this is an American problem.

At least you admit its a problem. Seriously, you are the first one in this thread. The rest calls it freedom and is proud of it.

Shok · 04-19-2007, 08:19 AM

how many gangs are in Holland Franck?

for real?

They make up the majority of gun violence here

Shok · 04-19-2007, 08:19 AM

double post

Dirty F · 04-19-2007, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Shok

how many gangs are in Holland Franck?

for real?

They make up the majority of gun violence here

We have gun violence like basically any other country in the world, ofcourse. But the average person will never have a gun pointed at him or see a situation with a gun involved. Holland is quite safe.
No Holland wouldnt be quite safe if guns were suddenly legal and one would be able to buy one on every corner of the street. This place would turn into a dangerous shithole.

What is it you dont understand about this?

We have crime and no gun problem. You have crime AND a gun problem. You keep on acting as if guns reduced the crime but im pretty damn sure crime rate in the US in higher than in Holland...yes even WITH your guns.

justsexxx · 04-19-2007, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Shok

How many Bloods and Crips are in Holland?

What about MS13?

??

Yeah pls don't come to The Netherlands. It's like the Bronx here...Gun fights all over, and many school drama's here...And the problem is, we can not buy guns...I feel so unsafe here

Dirty F · 04-19-2007, 08:28 AM

Only the US and a bunch of 3rd world countries have a huge gun problem. Why doesnt the rest of the world have this problem? Many because they dont have a country full of guns??? Really hard to understand right?

Once again your freedom to allow guns fucked up your country and you are proud of it and act like the rest of the world cant function without guns. Man...when you think of it can you realize why the rest of the world things the average American is an imbecile?

justsexxx · 04-19-2007, 08:33 AM

Enoch Brown school massacre - Franklin County, Pennsylvania, United States; July 26, 1764
Poe Elementary School Attack - Houston, Texas, United States; September 15, 1959
University of Texas at Austin massacre - Austin, Texas, United States; August 1, 1966
Kent State shootings - Kent, Ohio, United States; May 4, 1970
Avivim school bus massacre - Avivim, Israel; May 8, 1970
Jackson State killings - Jackson, Mississippi, United States; May 14-15, 1970
Ma'alot massacre - Ma'alot, Israel; May 15, 1974
California State University, Fullerton Library Massacre - Fullerton, California, United States; July 12, 1976
Parkway South Junior High School shooting - Saint Louis, Missouri, United States; January 20, 1983
Stockton massacre - Stockton, California, United States; January 17, 1989
École Polytechnique Massacre - Montreal, Quebec, Canada; December 6, 1989
University of Iowa shooting - Iowa City, Iowa, United States; November 1, 1991
Concordia University massacre -Montreal, Quebec, Canada; August 24, 1992
Simon's Rock College of Bard shooting - Great Barrington, Massachusetts, United States; December 14, 1992
Richland High School shooting - Lynnville, Tennessee, United States; November 15, 1995.
Frontier Junior High shooting - Moses Lake, Washington, United States; February 2, 1996
Dunblane massacre - Dunblane, Scotland, United Kingdom; March 13, 1996
Sanaa massacre - Sanaa, Yemen; March 30, 1997
Pearl High School shooting, Pearl, Mississippi, United States; October 1, 1997
Heath High School shooting, West Paducah, Kentucky, United States; December 1, 1997
Jonesboro massacre - Jonesboro, Arkansas, United States; March 24, 1998
Thurston High School shooting - Springfield, Oregon, United States; May 21, 1998
Columbine High School massacre - Littleton, Colorado, United States; April 20, 1999
W. R. Myers High School shooting - Taber, Alberta, Canada; April 28, 1999
Heritage High School shooting - Conyers, Georgia, United States; May 20, 1999
Santana High School - Santee, California, United States; March 5, 2001
Appalachian School of Law shooting - Grundy, Virginia, United States; January 16, 2002
Erfurt massacre - Erfurt, Germany; April 26, 2002
Monash University shooting - Melbourne, Australia; October 21, 2002
Rocori High School shootings - Cold Spring, Minnesota, United States; September 24, 2003
Southwood Middle School tragedy, Miami, Florida; February 3, 2004
Beslan school hostage crisis - Beslan, Russia; September 1, 2004
Red Lake High School massacre - Red Lake, Minnesota, United States; March 21, 2005
Dawson College shooting - Montreal, Quebec, Canada; September 13, 2006
Platte Canyon High School shooting - Bailey, Colorado, United States; September 27, 2006
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Virginia Tech massacre - Blacksburg, Virginia, United States; April 16, 2007

Shok · 04-19-2007, 08:35 AM

Well yeah I guess you guys are much smarter than us what can we say, maybe we will be as cool as Holland some day.

Yes there are lots of guns here
Yes we have an abundance of violent youth
Yes we racial hatred
Yes Yes Yes

The guns arn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Thats just the way it is.
It's too interwoven into our fabric.

What's to argue?

Saying imbecile 500 times doesn't change things.

Dirty F · 04-19-2007, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shok

Well yeah I guess you guys are much smarter than us what can we say, maybe we will be as cool as Holland some day.

Yes there are lots of guns here
Yes we have an abundance of violent youth
Yes we racial hatred
Yes Yes Yes

The guns arn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Thats just the way it is.
It's too interwoven into our fabric.

What's to argue?

Saying imbecile 500 times doesn't change things.

If guns wouldnt be legal there in the first place just like Holland and all those violent people would have a really hard time finding a gun instead of now where they buy a gun any time of the day, do you think the US would be a bit safer? Just like its safer in every other country where guns arent widely available? Or is this freedom illusion sooooo fucking important to you that you will never ever admit guns fucked things up there?

Shok · 04-19-2007, 08:38 AM

Amazingly I have somehow managed not to have been the victim of gun violence in the last 35 years.

Same with everyone in my family.

Of course now Im sure I just jinxed myself.

Shok · 04-19-2007, 08:40 AM

Actually you know what I think fucked up america and is the problem?

Parents just don't give a shit anymore.

It's all about having babies from 5 different men that the kid will never know.
Mothers trying to support large families on their own and there is no disipline anymore.

Kids are rude and have no manners.
They are not taught right from wrong.
They look up to thug and prison life as something cool.

Throw a gun into the mix and it just makes matters way more fucked.

Dirty F · 04-19-2007, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Shok

Amazingly I have somehow managed not to have been the victim of gun violence in the last 35 years.

Same with everyone in my family.

Of course now Im sure I just jinxed myself.

Wait, there is no gun problem in the US??

Oh snap, what was i thinking.

My mistake, sorry.

Dirty F · 04-19-2007, 08:47 AM

Shok, Can you answer me please?

If guns wouldnt be legal there in the first place just like Holland and all those violent people would have a really hard time finding a gun instead of now where they buy a gun any time of the day, do you think the US would be a bit safer? Just like its safer in every other country where guns arent widely available? Or is this freedom illusion sooooo fucking important to you that you will never ever admit guns fucked things up there?

psili · 04-19-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Shok

Actually you know what I think fucked up america and is the problem?

Parents just don't give a shit anymore.

It's all about having babies from 5 different men that the kid will never know.
Mothers trying to support large families on their own and there is no disipline anymore.

Kids are rude and have no manners.
They are not taught right from wrong.
They look up to thug and prison life as something cool.

Throw a gun into the mix and it just makes matters way more fucked.

Move to Denmark. #4 for suicide rates for people aged 35-44.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...tes-ages-35-44

At least in the US, fucked up people off themselves early in life, probably due to your point about parents not caring anymore.

Shok · 04-19-2007, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Wait, there is no gun problem in the US??

Oh snap, what was i thinking.

My mistake, sorry.

No ...what I'm saying is, the picture you paint is one of people scurrying under fire to get a cup of coffee at 7-11.

Although it may seem to be a society on the verge of anarchy...it really isn't.

People in London ask me how many horses I own since I live in Texas.
It's all perception
I don't know anyone who owns a horse in Dallas

montel · 04-19-2007, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gregory Black

Ask the Austrailians how gun control has worked for them

Australia has very few gun deaths per 1,000

Shok · 04-19-2007, 08:55 AM

And Franck to answer your question.

If there were never any guns allowed, yes there would be less murders.

I still think there would be violence the same as today though, be it gun or not.
This country fought itself over owning slaves.
Black people hate white people, asians hate black people and we all hate arabs for the time being.

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Shok

And Franck to answer your question.

If there were never any guns allowed, yes there would be less murders.

I still think there would be violence the same as today though, be it gun or not.
This country fought itself over owning slaves.
Black people hate white people, asians hate black people and we all hate arabs for the time being.

I hate Shok only.

montel · 04-19-2007, 08:57 AM

Remember when Scott accidentally shot himself on 90210? Don't you people learn anything?!?!?!

cherrylula · 04-19-2007, 08:58 AM

I didn't read this thread, but thought I'd add: the US is about to sell a bunch of weapons including satellite-guided munitions to Saudi Arabia and other gulf countries. Don't worry, Israel.

read up: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/19/wo...html?ref=world

Ross · 04-19-2007, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

where are you at holland?

my buddy is from ireland... and another buddy from england and he's right... it's easier to get a gun in places where they are illlegal than it is where they are legal....

Thats bullshit. I'm in Scotland and I wouldn't have any idea where to start looking to get a gun. A few of my relatives are pretty dodgy people and know the worst people in my town and even they couldn't get guns so easily.

tree · 04-19-2007, 09:26 AM

guns aren't toys,
they're for family protection, hunting dangerous or delicious animals, and keeping the king of England out of your face!

if we didn't have these guns, the king of England could walk right in here and start pushing you around.

D'you want that? Huh? Do ya?

PornGeneral · 04-19-2007, 09:37 AM

"I only have five words for you: From my cold, dead hands" - Charlton Heston

Charlton Heston for President 2008

rotowa85 · 04-19-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BV

Because if there were no guns some big thugs might try to do a home invasion on my wife and children while I am out of town.

I feel safer knowing that my loved ones are able to protect themselves and make it an even playing field.

Even when I am home I feel safer. If the dog barks or the alarm goes off I am ready.

i think that part of the problem is that americans have been conditioned into thinking the worst, for example when my house alarm goes off in the night i dont think oh my god an intruder who is gonna kill me if i dont pop a cap in his ass first, i think who the fuck went downstairs and didnt switch off the alarm

rotowa85 · 04-19-2007, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tree

guns aren't toys,
they're for family protection, hunting dangerous or delicious animals, and keeping the king of England out of your face!

if we didn't have these guns, the king of England could walk right in here and start pushing you around.

D'you want that? Huh? Do ya?

tree i would just like to point out to you that their hasnt been a King of England since george VI whose reign ended in 1952. the simple reason for this is that law states that a queen can not rule if their is a king, and hence since in a queen is the head of the Monarch as is the case now her husband becomes a prince not a King.

viking1 · 04-19-2007, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Yes, he's that stupid.. Frank, the reason the Nazis did not invade Switzerland is because every household had a machine gun. Hitler did not want to get in a third front. This is basic EUR history they teach us in our "Imbecile" American schools.

Haha this is the most stupied i ever heard , first of all ,it was several countries Hitler didnt invade my friend, before you talk about nazi cocks etc, it was just a few countries in Europe who was really invaded by Hitler.

Its so boring everytime, "if it wasnt for us you would been talked German "

learn the history man , Berlin was outbombed by the English lads over and over again , before they invaded Berlin .

Several countries fighted back,and hitler didnt have full control at all of all countries in EU .

i can go on all night, this is not Normandie you know lol .....

But US was a great help ,thats whats alliance is for .....

Like English troops did in 1 and 2 war in Iraq ,helped us soldiers who couldnt finish some attacks good enough , you know ....

tree · 04-19-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rotowa85

tree i would just like to point out to you that their hasnt been a King of England since george VI whose reign ended in 1952. the simple reason for this is that law states that a queen can not rule if their is a king, and hence since in a queen is the head of the Monarch as is the case now her husband becomes a prince not a King.

once again SURFER...its a quote from the simpsons. Lighten up and stop skipping school.

viking1 · 04-19-2007, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

...and you are very ignorant.. about your culture and history. Why is it so hard to click a link and read the history? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_pol...in_Switzerland

The Americans and Russians saved Europe from the Nazis so STFU

Once again learn the history of ALL countries in Europe ,and yes RUSSIA was a main factor for Europe TOGETHER with US for ending the war after years of fighting from soldiers and sabatouers from europe ,who killed german soldiers everyday.

I have family members who was in a camp and survived ,i also know hundreds of histories of young guys who fighted the whole war againgst Hitler for saving their countries ,and once again,Hitler didnt control every country 100% .

So good night and eat your burger in your trailer mr Wikipedia

polle54 · 04-19-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

You have a huge gun (crime) problem and many other countries dont have that problem. Why is that you think? Could it have anything to do with your country being flooded with guns?

Why dont you realize that the more guns there are in general the more dangerous it is and the bigger the problem gets.

Why dont you realize that it is statistically proven that its more likely accidents will (and do) happen with guns in houses which are there for "self protection" than that those same guns actually are used for self protection.

The moment a gun is available there is an extra risk of something bad thats gonna happen with it. A risk that wasnt there before. Why do you people fail to see that? Can someone explain that to me?

Strong Point

I hate america for this.

You are not allowed to swear on TV and they to bazerk when a fucking tit is shown in the superbowl - Still still having a gun in your deskdraw is perfectly legal.
There's no direct connection but I am just saying somewhere along the line something went really wrong.
The values are so fucked up in your miserable country.

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tree Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,601	franck and other whiney non americans.....this is an American problem. why dont you mind your OWN fucking business and stick to reading the news about whatever gunless pussyville country you live in k

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Why are you idiots unable to understand that America has a gun problem and many other countries dont? And then even worse, why are you so fucking proud of it?

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Only the US and a bunch of 3rd world countries have a huge gun problem. Why doesnt the rest of the world have this problem? Many because they dont have a country full of guns??? Really hard to understand right? Once again your freedom to allow guns fucked up your country and you are proud of it and act like the rest of the world cant function without guns. Man...when you think of it can you realize why the rest of the world things the average American is an imbecile?

04-19-2007, 08:35 AM	#172
Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	Well yeah I guess you guys are much smarter than us what can we say, maybe we will be as cool as Holland some day. Yes there are lots of guns here Yes we have an abundance of violent youth Yes we racial hatred Yes Yes Yes The guns arn't going anywhere anytime soon. Thats just the way it is. It's too interwoven into our fabric. What's to argue? Saying imbecile 500 times doesn't change things.

04-19-2007, 08:38 AM	#174
Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	Amazingly I have somehow managed not to have been the victim of gun violence in the last 35 years. Same with everyone in my family. Of course now Im sure I just jinxed myself.

04-19-2007, 08:40 AM	#175
Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	Actually you know what I think fucked up america and is the problem? Parents just don't give a shit anymore. It's all about having babies from 5 different men that the kid will never know. Mothers trying to support large families on their own and there is no disipline anymore. Kids are rude and have no manners. They are not taught right from wrong. They look up to thug and prison life as something cool. Throw a gun into the mix and it just makes matters way more fucked.

04-19-2007, 08:47 AM	#177
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Shok, Can you answer me please? If guns wouldnt be legal there in the first place just like Holland and all those violent people would have a really hard time finding a gun instead of now where they buy a gun any time of the day, do you think the US would be a bit safer? Just like its safer in every other country where guns arent widely available? Or is this freedom illusion sooooo fucking important to you that you will never ever admit guns fucked things up there?

04-19-2007, 08:55 AM	#181
Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	And Franck to answer your question. If there were never any guns allowed, yes there would be less murders. I still think there would be violence the same as today though, be it gun or not. This country fought itself over owning slaves. Black people hate white people, asians hate black people and we all hate arabs for the time being.

04-19-2007, 08:58 AM	#184
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	I didn't read this thread, but thought I'd add: the US is about to sell a bunch of weapons including satellite-guided munitions to Saudi Arabia and other gulf countries. Don't worry, Israel. read up: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/19/wo...html?ref=world

04-19-2007, 09:26 AM	#186
tree Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,601	guns aren't toys, they're for family protection, hunting dangerous or delicious animals, and keeping the king of England out of your face! if we didn't have these guns, the king of England could walk right in here and start pushing you around. D'you want that? Huh? Do ya?