Ii cant believe how Easily the Vtech killer got the guns..... - GoFuckYourself.com

Juicy D. Links · 04-19-2007, 08:25 AM

i guess the virginia laws are more leanient and such...

for me to legally get one here is fucking a hassle and a half and huge pain.

i just cant believe he bought em so easily.... crazy shit...

back when i was in school toughest shit we had to worry about is a after school fist fight and stuff....not some walking going on shooting spree

sherie · 04-19-2007, 08:26 AM

Especially with such a long history of mental illness...makes you question whether or not the retailers even bothered to do any sort of background check on this guy...

czarina · 04-19-2007, 08:27 AM

in Miami, you just go to a gun shop, show them your id, pay for the gun, and in 3 days, you come back to pick it up (the 3-day wait is called a "cooling period")

czarina · 04-19-2007, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sherie

Especially with such a long history of mental illness...makes you question whether or not the retailers even bothered to do any sort of background check on this guy...

they check the criminal background, not the mental one. Funny, you can be a nutcase, and still get a gun, but if you have embezzled money or had a DIU or such, you can't. Hmmm... I wonder how rednecks get them though :P

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sherie

Especially with such a long history of mental illness...makes you question whether or not the retailers even bothered to do any sort of background check on this guy...

Retailers did a backround check, mandated by law.

That backround check does not delve into someone's medical history.

Juicy D. Links · 04-19-2007, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina

in Miami, you just go to a gun shop, show them your id, pay for the gun, and in 3 days, you come back to pick it up (the 3-day wait is called a "cooling period")

last time i checked , it was a 9 month wait till ya got answer in NY... plus you had to get fingerprinted notify police dept , give em references who they call and more crap...

But then again NYr's are crazy fucks (take me for example)

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina

in Miami, you just go to a gun shop, show them your id, pay for the gun, and in 3 days, you come back to pick it up (the 3-day wait is called a "cooling period")

Since the shooter bought the guns months before the shooting, the 3 day cooling off period doesn't really come into effect.

Juicy D. Links · 04-19-2007, 08:30 AM

did the campus security guys pack any heat????

if they did why didnt they go in with guns blazing?

Dirty F · 04-19-2007, 08:31 AM

ITS THE AMERICAN FREEDOM, you are all so proud of. The freedom every other country should have so we can be like America.

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina

they check the criminal background, not the mental one. Funny, you can be a nutcase, and still get a gun, but if you have embezzled money or had a DIU or such, you can't. Hmmm... I wonder how rednecks get them though :P

How is it funny?

No one with a FELONY should be able to own a gun, thank the Law for that.

Juicy D. Links · 04-19-2007, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

ITS THE AMERICAN FREEDOM, you are all so proud of. The freedom every other country should have so we can be like America.

Franckkkkkkkkkkkkk if i packed heat i would shoot you in the toe

campimp · 04-19-2007, 08:34 AM

while this dude definitely bought from a dealer, most criminals dont buy guns from a store, they get them used, or from gun shows where basically anyone can pick up a gun

being a graduate from va tech i must say the only way this could have been avoided is if someone had actually given a shit about the crazy shit he was doing in class before the shootings... anyone read his writings he turned into his writing teachers??? one teacher said she had a class go from 70 students to 7 students solely because of this nuts behavior and overall creepiness in class... how could that have gone without raising some eyebrows?

why is it that the university didnt shut down the campus following the first shootings?

sad day for the hokies

Kenny B! · 04-19-2007, 08:34 AM

I'm so happy to be a canadian! We have shootings too, but I feel safer knowing it's harder to aquire a weapon here.

Martin3 · 04-19-2007, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sherie

Especially with such a long history of mental illness...makes you question whether or not the retailers even bothered to do any sort of background check on this guy...

Medical records are protected by federal law. Most western countries have similar privacy laws.

Juicy D. Links · 04-19-2007, 08:34 AM

also i mean why didnt some of the students gang up and take the fucker out?? I mean if you knew there was good chance you would die wouldnt you do what was necesssary???

I mean its easier said than done but a few people gang rushing him would have took him done and spared lives

ThePornPusher · 04-19-2007, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

last time i checked , it was a 9 month wait till ya got answer in NY... plus you had to get fingerprinted notify police dept , give em references who they call and more crap...

But then again NYr's are crazy fucks (take me for example)

Yet here in ny we can go into a gun store and buy a AR15, or any other automatic rifle at that, the biggest clip they have for it and then leave mins after buying it.

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin3

Medical records are protected by federal law. Most western countries have similar privacy laws.

HIPAA - Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 08:41 AM

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Yet here on ny we can go into a gun store and buy a AR15, or any other automatic rifle at that, and leave the same day with it.

A hand gun is concealable.

An AR15 is not.

Still bothers me to hear that NY does not have a cooling period.

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

also i mean why didnt some of the students gang up and take the fucker out?? I mean if you knew there was good chance you would die wouldnt you do what was necesssary???

I mean its easier said than done but a few people gang rushing him would have took him done and spared lives

I posted about this before.

He came in, and once he stated shooting, everyone was ducking, and the feasablity of attacking him dropped. Remember he had 2 guns.

ThePornPusher · 04-19-2007, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

A hand gun is concealable.

An AR15 is not.

Still bothers me to hear that NY does not have a cooling period.

Still at columbine they managed, its fucked up what is going to do more damage a hand gun or an assault rifle (not in this case though), makes no sense to me.

Martin3 · 04-19-2007, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePornPusher

Yet here in ny we can go into a gun store and buy a AR15, or any other automatic rifle at that, the biggest clip they have for it and then leave mins after buying it.

No you can't. Automatics require a Class 3 license. And that is NOT easy to get at all.
AR15 is not an automatic rifle. It's semi auto and no different is then a regular hunting rifle except to for the bigger clip(which you can buy for just about any rifle). It just looks scary.

Juicy D. Links · 04-19-2007, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePornPusher

Yet here in ny we can go into a gun store and buy a AR15, or any other automatic rifle at that, the biggest clip they have for it and then leave mins after buying it.

true man we can buy the big stuff but the regular handguns are a pain

Juicy D. Links · 04-19-2007, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

I posted about this before.

He came in, and once he stated shooting, everyone was ducking, and the feasablity of attacking him dropped. Remember he had 2 guns.

true i bet he must have been practicing for awhile and such....

or just shooting like crazy , i wonder how many rounds were actually fired

ThePornPusher · 04-19-2007, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin3

No you can't. Automatics require a Class 3 license. And that is NOT easy to get at all.
AR15 is not an automatic rifle. It's semi auto and no different is then a regular hunting rifle except to for the bigger clip(which you can buy for just about any rifle). It just looks scary.

Yeah you're right, I've never bought a gun but I've know a few people who got there hands on some serious looking rifles with no problem.

Martin3 · 04-19-2007, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePornPusher

Yeah you're right, I've never bought a gun but I've know a few people who got there hands on some serious looking rifles with no problem.

That's the thing.
Alot of people make a big deal about the AR's and other weapons they call assault weapons but most are just normal rifles that have been dressed up to look scary.

Anthony · 04-19-2007, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin3

That's the thing.
Alot of people make a big deal about the AR's and other weapons they call assault weapons but most are just normal rifles that have been dressed up to look scary.

AR stands for Assault Rifle.

The difference between an M16A3 and my Ar15 is a selector swtich.

From full auto to semi auto.

shoeaholicanon · 04-19-2007, 09:03 AM

how about we just dont buy guns and we dont have to know these details?

ThePornPusher · 04-19-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin3

That's the thing.
Alot of people make a big deal about the AR's and other weapons they call assault weapons but most are just normal rifles that have been dressed up to look scary.

Assault rifles aren't a big deal though ?? I would think someone could do more damage with that then a hand gun.

scardog · 04-19-2007, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePornPusher

Yet here in ny we can go into a gun store and buy a AR15, or any other automatic rifle at that, the biggest clip they have for it and then leave mins after buying it.

You can't buy an automatic rifle in NY. You may be able to buy a semi-automatic weapon. Big Difference.

ThePornPusher · 04-19-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by scardog

You can't buy an automatic rifle in NY. You may be able to buy a semi-automatic weapon. Big Difference.

point being that you could walk into a store in ny and buy a gun with bullets and bring it home that same exact day.

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Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Ii cant believe how Easily the Vtech killer got the guns..... i guess the virginia laws are more leanient and such... for me to legally get one here is fucking a hassle and a half and huge pain. i just cant believe he bought em so easily.... crazy shit... back when i was in school toughest shit we had to worry about is a after school fist fight and stuff....not some walking going on shooting spree

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campimp Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Gamehendge Posts: 1,340	while this dude definitely bought from a dealer, most criminals dont buy guns from a store, they get them used, or from gun shows where basically anyone can pick up a gun being a graduate from va tech i must say the only way this could have been avoided is if someone had actually given a shit about the crazy shit he was doing in class before the shootings... anyone read his writings he turned into his writing teachers??? one teacher said she had a class go from 70 students to 7 students solely because of this nuts behavior and overall creepiness in class... how could that have gone without raising some eyebrows? why is it that the university didnt shut down the campus following the first shootings? sad day for the hokies Last edited by campimp; 04-19-2007 at 08:35 AM..

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czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	in Miami, you just go to a gun shop, show them your id, pay for the gun, and in 3 days, you come back to pick it up (the 3-day wait is called a "cooling period")

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Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	did the campus security guys pack any heat???? if they did why didnt they go in with guns blazing?

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shoeaholicanon Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,003	how about we just dont buy guns and we dont have to know these details?