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bigOh · 05-17-2007, 07:16 AM

So here what happened.
I installed a CMS (joomla!) for one of
my clients. (I also customized a template for him.) The
price we agreed on was $300US. I requested 50% retainer
and the balance upon completion of all said work. All
went well. And all work was done. but when i requested
the balance the client did not want to pay. He began to
try and make deals with me to get around paying the
balance. He said thing like, " well i will send you some
clients", or " well lets add more thing to the site and
then you be done", hinting at things the were outside of
the scope of the original project. So 1 year or more has
past and this person still has not sent my payment. he
has since ignored my email & calls. In a desperate
attempt to get his attention i turned off the site (through the cms cpanel). This did get his attention but still did not sway him to send
my final payment. And I just noticed the bastard has taken down the
link back to my site. Normally i would just chalk this up
as a loss but i cant seem to let this one go. I feel
like he just flipped me off and I am enraged. I feel he needs to learn to pay his debts. its really not the money at this point its the principal.
i mean 150 is not a "whole" lot but still, ya know?
I wish I new some RU hackerscum that i could unleash on his site.
So what do you guys think? What should I do?

Juicy D. Links · 05-17-2007, 07:17 AM

not to say it aint bad , but we all get fucked sometime or another....

i personally recently been fucked over for 5 figures and its growing weekly

superdio · 05-17-2007, 07:22 AM

This happends all the time, you have to show screenshots, not deliver the working product until full payment.

he-fox · 05-17-2007, 07:22 AM

Name the name and move forward.

Damian_Maxcash · 05-17-2007, 07:24 AM

Its a major problem for all of us on the net......

You don't want to ask for escrow because it instantly says you don't trust the client and is a bad start to a business relationship. You just have to take it as part of your business expenses

bigOh · 05-17-2007, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by he-fox

Name the name and move forward.

huh? what?

Chris · 05-17-2007, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

not to say it aint bad , but we all get fucked sometime or another....

i personally recently been fucked over for 5 figures and its growing weekly

send me 10k and i will never give it back
we can have on going drama and get mad views for years

ya digg?

Murderous · 05-17-2007, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

not to say it aint bad , but we all get fucked sometime or another....

i personally recently been fucked over for 5 figures and its growing weekly

Following Lars' stock tips???

Screaming · 05-17-2007, 07:40 AM

it happens.....

Tom_PM · 05-17-2007, 07:43 AM

Karma will take $150 worth out of their hide eventually.

fallenmuffin · 05-17-2007, 07:43 AM

joomla + ripped off ... scriptlance?

who · 05-17-2007, 07:44 AM

You wanted $300 for installing joomla?

jayeff · 05-17-2007, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who

You wanted $300 for installing joomla?

Which has what to do with the price of eggs? In any case, reading the post might not hurt - "I also customized a template for him" - then you wouldn't be quite so obviously rushing to whore your sig...

who · 05-17-2007, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff

Which has what to do with the price of eggs? In any case, reading the post might not hurt - "I also customized a template for him" - then you wouldn't be quite so obviously rushing to whore your sig...

Well for such a small amount you probably should've asked to be paid in full upfront.

LiveDose · 05-17-2007, 07:59 AM

Just post his name and chalk it up as lesson to get 100% down before dealing with people in this industry. This kind of bs happens with assholes in mainstream as well btw...

Farang · 05-17-2007, 08:02 AM

that's not good...

bigOh · 05-17-2007, 08:19 AM

actually this was a mainstream client.
i feel like saving 2week worth of my kids shitty diapers and usps'ing them to his house. or i could post the domain and the whois but that wont to anything but send him more traffic. i even thought of posting some kind of ad with his address on craigslist. like "sat 5/19/07 free wigets and discounts on wobblys!"
lol that would be fun

who · 05-17-2007, 08:22 AM

Pay him a vist, and take a hefty friend along with you.

Nifty Themes · 05-17-2007, 08:27 AM

In non payment situations I will shut down the site and remove all the files after taking a backup copy. Usually people who don't pay aren't smart enough to either delete access to the script admin / ftp / mysql at the same time.

Randyyy · 05-17-2007, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

not to say it aint bad , but we all get fucked sometime or another....

i personally recently been fucked over for 5 figures and its growing weekly

fuck that, anyone screws for that much and i hunt them down!!

bigOh · 05-17-2007, 09:03 AM

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woj · 05-17-2007, 09:31 AM

don't feel alone on this, we've all been fucked in the past...

montrealpornking · 05-17-2007, 09:37 AM

take him to small claims court or put up a microsite for everything to know what this guy did to you so when they look up his company's name your micro site might come up letting people know the type of business this guy does.
this in itself might encourage him to pay you the 150 to get rid of bad publicity.

bigOh · 05-17-2007, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montrealpornking

take him to small claims court or put up a microsite for everything to know what this guy did to you so when they look up his company's name your micro site might come up letting people know the type of business this guy does.
this in itself might encourage him to pay you the 150 to get rid of bad publicity.

you my good man are a phucking GENIOUS!

thanks for the idea!

bigOh · 05-17-2007, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

joomla + ripped off ... scriptlance?

you also sir

thanks!

VicD · 05-17-2007, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

not to say it aint bad , but we all get fucked sometime or another....

i personally recently been fucked over for 5 figures and its growing weekly

You got that right...

bigOh · 05-19-2007, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

joomla + ripped off ... scriptlance?

well i used your suggestion. I posted my job. and it was done in just under 3 hrs!
the guy actually did the work before i chose his bid on the job. and guess what it cost me....

$30 bucks!

Now if the jackass is smart he my have a backup of his data but, it is still proof of concept that anyone can be touched. for the right price.

(lol sounds like some ish out of a sopranos episode.)

anyways thanks again for the tip fallenmuffin

FreakinWebmaster · 05-19-2007, 09:19 PM

I have full contracts before I do any work before a job... You live and learn.

I pretty much host all of my clients sites that I design, if I dont receive full payment within 30 days of a due invoice, I give them 30 days extra to at least make payment arrangements, if they fail to comply, I take down their site and all the files until payment is paid... Ever since I put this into effect, I have gotten every payment. It's really built on trust, I can pretty much tell right away which kind of people are going to be a pain in the ass. And I jack the price up, when I sence these types of people as well.

Good Luck!

tehHinjew · 05-19-2007, 10:17 PM

i sent his company anthraxxx

en21 · 05-19-2007, 11:53 PM

not worth your time dude

seeandsee · 05-20-2007, 04:01 AM

Ouch! Learn PHP bombing, when they odn't pay just destroy their site!

DWB · 05-20-2007, 05:22 AM

I have sent out a team of ninja assassin ladyboys to kill him. Thank me later.

Violetta · 05-20-2007, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I have sent out a team of ninja assassin ladyboys to kill him. Thank me later.

oh... that means trouble!

tenderobject · 05-20-2007, 06:19 AM

is this zuzanadesigns? lol deja vuh! hahahaha

k0nr4d · 05-20-2007, 01:17 PM

I've been burned before for around $500 too.
What I do now to prevent it is I take the 50% upfront, develop everything on my own server, and then upon completion I get the rest and send them the files.

Works great because theres no trust issues. If I already have the code done they don't worry about paying me and me disappearing without sending them an email with the code.

The only time i develop on a clients server is for affiliate programs, and that's only for larger programs.

k0nr4d · 05-20-2007, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee

Ouch! Learn PHP bombing, when they odn't pay just destroy their site!

What exactly is 'php bombing'?

pornguy · 05-20-2007, 01:37 PM

Its sad that you have to now have a ref, just to get work done.

fetishHIT · 05-20-2007, 01:41 PM

leave it, spend your time at making sites and earn your self those 150's easy.

05-17-2007, 07:16 AM	#1
bigOh Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39	just got stiffed for $150 So here what happened. I installed a CMS (joomla!) for one of my clients. (I also customized a template for him.) The price we agreed on was $300US. I requested 50% retainer and the balance upon completion of all said work. All went well. And all work was done. but when i requested the balance the client did not want to pay. He began to try and make deals with me to get around paying the balance. He said thing like, " well i will send you some clients", or " well lets add more thing to the site and then you be done", hinting at things the were outside of the scope of the original project. So 1 year or more has past and this person still has not sent my payment. he has since ignored my email & calls. In a desperate attempt to get his attention i turned off the site (through the cms cpanel). This did get his attention but still did not sway him to send my final payment. And I just noticed the bastard has taken down the link back to my site. Normally i would just chalk this up as a loss but i cant seem to let this one go. I feel like he just flipped me off and I am enraged. I feel he needs to learn to pay his debts. its really not the money at this point its the principal. i mean 150 is not a "whole" lot but still, ya know? I wish I new some RU hackerscum that i could unleash on his site. So what do you guys think? What should I do? __________________ icq #233084324 email changethings at gee mail dot com

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05-17-2007, 08:19 AM	#17
bigOh Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39	actually this was a mainstream client. i feel like saving 2week worth of my kids shitty diapers and usps'ing them to his house. or i could post the domain and the whois but that wont to anything but send him more traffic. i even thought of posting some kind of ad with his address on craigslist. like "sat 5/19/07 free wigets and discounts on wobblys!" lol that would be fun __________________ icq #233084324 email changethings at gee mail dot com Last edited by bigOh; 05-17-2007 at 08:20 AM.. Reason: typo

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