DH, Wizzo, WiredGuy, Lars, Juicy, etc..

[Brujah]

No drama. Just a thread to understand the reasoning behind it.

Why do they post at all to defend the spyware/adware, torrent sites, etc..? Do any of them own spyware or torrent sites? What motivation is there to encourage more people to use these methods for promotion? Wouldn't it just dilute their own campaigns? Why bother? The aggressive defense of these practices is what keeps people replying and flooding the forum with so many threads about it.

[WiredGuy]

I haven't defended bit torrents or spyware. Adware, yes, because its legal and has a lot of misconception about it. I don't see anything wrong with software being distributed freely which is supported by advertising. Lots of people put adware and spyware in the same category and it simply isn't true.
WG

[Jace]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I haven't defended bit torrents or spyware. Adware, yes, because its legal and has a lot of misconception about it. I don't see anything wrong with software being distributed freely which is supported by advertising. Lots of people put adware and spyware in the same category and it simply isn't true.
WG

you also have to realize there are two types of adware...that which was installed by an exe that someone intentionally clicked on to install that ad supported software, and that which installed without permission that pops ads on a users screen

both are adware, but one is perfectly fine, while the other is malicious

[Juicy D. Links]

between the 5 of us , we run a ring of torrent sites that will blow your mind away.

DH is our spokesman
Wired Guy is the programmer
Wizzo is there to give guidance
Lars is there to keep me company
I am there just to look good and be eye candy

[fris]

this is serious business

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

between the 5 of us , we run a ring of torrent sites that will blow your mind away.

DH is our spokesman
Wired Guy is the programmer
Wizzo is there to give guidance
Lars is there to keep me company
I am there just to look good and be eye candy

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

between the 5 of us , we run a ring of torrent sites that will blow your mind away.

DH is our spokesman
Wired Guy is the programmer
Wizzo is there to give guidance
Lars is there to keep me company
I am there just to look good and be eye candy

can boneprone and i have a job?

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp

can boneprone and i have a job?

Yes please forward me resume

[Juicy D. Links]

[Digipimp]

so where does it begin and end. arent torrents practically an extension of tgp. i mean a tgp site has thousands of pics and videos for free, its just sponsor approved. i remember back when programs were picky about tgp and now 9 out of 10 will give you every bit of content they have to use for it.

[Evil E]

Originally Posted by Digipimp

so where does it begin and end. arent torrents practically an extension of tgp. i mean a tgp site has thousands of pics and videos for free, its just sponsor approved. i remember back when programs were picky about tgp and now 9 out of 10 will give you every bit of content they have to use for it.

Sure a TGP has a lot of pics and movies, but those are samples.

[seeric]

i want job tooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


i will get the bitches for everyone

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by knewon

Sure a TGP has a lot of pics and movies, but those are samples.

They're still pretty much giving away the cow while trying to sell the milk.

Regardless, the main difference here is the stamp of approval given to TGP's, to which sponsor cater by offering free content in various forms, while torrent sites blatantly rip entire sites without anyone's approval.

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

i want job tooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


i will get the bitches for everyone

woofie can be the bitches scout.

[tony286]

I have never seen Juicy defend any of this, he jokes not in the happiest of threads but no support.

[Voodoo]

It's all badware to me.

[Digipimp]

Originally Posted by DamageX

They're still pretty much giving away the cow while trying to sell the milk.

Regardless, the main difference here is the stamp of approval given to TGP's, to which sponsor cater by offering free content in various forms, while torrent sites blatantly rip entire sites without anyone's approval.

not much difference, tgp opened up because people pushed it and did it like this. because big tgps threw up tons and tons of content and got sales. bottom line is and has always been money. tgp didnt always have such massive approval, much less have so many programs that will give you virtually their entire collection of content to use for it however you choose. im just saying its not a huge jump and you're all not so clean.

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by tony404

I have never seen Juicy defend any of this, he jokes not in the happiest of threads but no support.

i think i might have said something but i have been "high" with weed last few days , not sure when or if i said not sure tbh

[Juicy D. Links]

i amm about to roll a joint soon also.

after 8 pm dont pay attention to anything i say

[Humpy Leftnut]

It really takes you 15 minutes to get high? ;)

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut

It really takes you 15 minutes to get high? ;)

nah like 3 puffs , i am n00b puffer

[wyldworx]

juicy, you are going bald. Me on the other hand, well, there's some eyecandy!!

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by wyldworx

juicy, you are going bald. Me on the other hand, well, there's some eyecandy!!

u high????????// i got a full set up hairrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Xenophage]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

between the 5 of us , we run a ring of torrent sites that will blow your mind away.

DH is our spokesman
Wired Guy is the programmer
Wizzo is there to give guidance
Lars is there to keep me company
I am there just to look good and be eye candy

And what good eye candy you are

[Xenophage]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

i want job tooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


i will get the bitches for everyone

We always need some stand up guys

[Sean]

what the fuck is my job going to be?

[Jman]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

between the 5 of us , we run a ring of torrent sites that will blow your mind away.

DH is our spokesman
Wired Guy is the programmer
Wizzo is there to give guidance
Lars is there to keep me company
I am there just to look good and be eye candy

Yo Juicy, you'll need a frenchy in there... OUI OUI!!!!!!

[Xenophage]

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp

what the fuck is my job going to be?

Burning bandwidth as usual

[LadyMischief]

Originally Posted by Digipimp

not much difference, tgp opened up because people pushed it and did it like this. because big tgps threw up tons and tons of content and got sales. bottom line is and has always been money. tgp didnt always have such massive approval, much less have so many programs that will give you virtually their entire collection of content to use for it however you choose. im just saying its not a huge jump and you're all not so clean.

TGP is a different situation, they have direct control over the content on their sites (even if they choose not to exercise it). There's accountability there. Torrent sites don't really have this kind of control.. they can block searches, etc, but they aren't directly in control of the content that's offered on their sites. Not even the same kind of business model.

[Rankings]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I haven't defended bit torrents or spyware. Adware, yes, because its legal and has a lot of misconception about it. I don't see anything wrong with software being distributed freely which is supported by advertising. Lots of people put adware and spyware in the same category and it simply isn't true.
WG

sup man, shoot me an icq bro

[Tryme]

Originally Posted by LadyMischief

TGP is a different situation, they have direct control over the content on their sites (even if they choose not to exercise it). There's accountability there. Torrent sites don't really have this kind of control.. they can block searches, etc, but they aren't directly in control of the content that's offered on their sites. Not even the same kind of business model.

Tgp's started out as illegally linking to content, sorta like what torrents do now.

Maybe you weren't around, or didn't make avs sites... I lost over $4000 due to Thehun and Al4a.

[kektex]

Originally Posted by Tryme

Tgp's started out as illegally linking to content, sorta like what torrents do now.

Maybe you weren't around, or didn't make avs sites... I lost over $4000 due to Thehun and Al4a.

ANd you took some sort of action and you knew how to stop getting ripped off by TGPs.
How do you stop a bunch of surfers from sharing complete site rips?

[Tryme]

Originally Posted by kektex

ANd you took some sort of action and you knew how to stop getting ripped off by TGPs.
How do you stop a bunch of surfers from sharing complete site rips?

$4000 later I was told to put up a .htacess, to stop it, but that only stopped a few of the sites not all.

Sponsors can find a way to work with Torrent Sites too. Shouldn't you expect them to do the same? You are telling me I was supposed to be able to stop them from fucking me. It wasn't like Thehun emailed you and said, hey I wanted to link your shit, but if you want to stop it, add a htaccess.

[kektex]

Originally Posted by Tryme

$4000 later I was told to put up a .htacess, to stop it, but that only stopped a few of the sites not all.

Sponsors can find a way to work with Torrent Sites too. Shouldn't you expect them to do the same? You are telling me I was supposed to be able to stop them from fucking me. It wasn't like Thehun emailed you and said, hey I wanted to link your shit, but if you want to stop it, add a htaccess.

I don´t know man, maybe I´m not that smart but I fail to see how a sponsor can compete against people that are uploading complete site rips...
Sure maybe you can flood the P2P networks with teaser videos and stuff. But then the surfer just does a search, orders the results by size and boom...you´ve got a 1.2GB site rip ready to download.
I highly doubt he´s gonna pull out his credit card...

[DaddyHalbucks]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

between the 5 of us , we run a ring of torrent sites that will blow your mind away.

DH is our spokesman
Wired Guy is the programmer
Wizzo is there to give guidance
Lars is there to keep me company
I am there just to look good and be eye candy

Juicy, your above post also proves you are the brains and comic relief behind the operation.

We all know you are great looking, but you don't need to be so modest about your other talents.

[Digipimp]

Originally Posted by Tryme

Tgp's started out as illegally linking to content, sorta like what torrents do now.

Maybe you weren't around, or didn't make avs sites... I lost over $4000 due to Thehun and Al4a.

thank you, thats exactly what im saying. these people just cant make the connection.

tgp wasnt always looked in such a friendly way as i said and now a sponsor will practically give you all of the content they have, full videos, entire photo sets and let you tgp the shit out of it. but they're crying about this, its the same thing over again. they only bitch when they're not in it and making money from it, but they'll exploit this and a few years from now it will be accepted and all these cry babies will be bitching about something else.

youre all greedy and dirty whether you like it or not on some level

[nikooo]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

i want job tooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


i will get the bitches for everyone

[donkevlar]

People need to either join with the torrent sites in some way or come up with a product worth purchasing.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Digipimp

so where does it begin and end. arent torrents practically an extension of tgp. i mean a tgp site has thousands of pics and videos for free, its just sponsor approved. i remember back when programs were picky about tgp and now 9 out of 10 will give you every bit of content they have to use for it.

The difference is, TGP aren't used to pirate software and they don't engorge theft or offer up full length porn DVD or site rips. Torrents are not just another way to market, they are part of the downward spiral of this industry.

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp

what the fuck is my job going to be?

We need someone to get frosty lattes and espressos

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by Tryme

$4000 later I was told to put up a .htacess, to stop it, but that only stopped a few of the sites not all.

Sponsors can find a way to work with Torrent Sites too. Shouldn't you expect them to do the same? You are telling me I was supposed to be able to stop them from fucking me. It wasn't like Thehun emailed you and said, hey I wanted to link your shit, but if you want to stop it, add a htaccess.

you could have hit em back with reverse DDOs attack

[Max Cheese]

this thread turned funny

[boneprone]

I love the word Torrent.....


Boneprone Approved.

Someone list some good urls for me.

I need to jerk and dont wanna pay.

[jhauser]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

between the 5 of us , we run a ring of torrent sites that will blow your mind away.

DH is our spokesman
Wired Guy is the programmer
Wizzo is there to give guidance
Lars is there to keep me company
I am there just to look good and be eye candy

Wizzo told me he was the fluff boy. Maybe he has 2 roles. lol

[Digipimp]

Originally Posted by crockett

The difference is, TGP aren't used to pirate software and they don't engorge theft or offer up full length porn DVD or site rips. Torrents are not just another way to market, they are part of the downward spiral of this industry.

its only downhill if youre not making money on it. if all these people knew how to make money off it they would be doing it. but they'd rather cry and claim to have biz ethics and they're mostly all full of shit and will cave just the way they have with tgp, mgp and everything else prior.

[mattz]

Originally Posted by Digipimp

so where does it begin and end. arent torrents practically an extension of tgp. i mean a tgp site has thousands of pics and videos for free, its just sponsor approved. i remember back when programs were picky about tgp and now 9 out of 10 will give you every bit of content they have to use for it.

Yeah tgps have free pics and movies, but torrent sites have free full length movies. I never saw a TGP with full length movies, it would be pointless, they woudln't be able to send any joins if they did. Tgps / Mgps just give out samples.

Their is a big difference

[Brujah]

Which TGP or MGP will be the first to offer complete site rips and full length dvd quality movies?

[Digipimp]

Originally Posted by mattz

Yeah tgps have free pics and movies, but torrent sites have free full length movies. I never saw a TGP with full length movies, it would be pointless, they woudln't be able to send any joins if they did. Tgps / Mgps just give out samples.

Their is a big difference

guess people dont remember when tgp was a bad thing and things progressed, and we had sponsors give out a small amount of content for tgp pics, then they gave out all their pics to use for tgp, then video clips, 10 seconds, 20 seconds, then 30, then 2 minutes and so on, now a few sponsors have tools to put 10 to 20 minute videos on your site for free. if you cant see the progression and all the whining and crying is about being left out of the money then you've missed it all along.

[Jakke PNG]

Originally Posted by Tryme

Tgp's started out as illegally linking to content, sorta like what torrents do now.

Maybe you weren't around, or didn't make avs sites... I lost over $4000 due to Thehun and Al4a.

There's a BIG fucking difference to deeplinking a fucking gallery or sharing a whole members-area. While the argument "they should have had better protection" holds true in both cases, there's pretty much nothing a guy can do to torrent links, they're up there and out of your control. When you got an AVS gallery deeplinke, you could just rename that folder and redirect to your 'sales page'.

Also, I do understand most of you are in the states. But deeplinking to a non-protected directory is not illegal. But it IS illegal to download or seed torrents with unlicensed material in finland, and finnish trackers have been raided and shut down. Sweden apparently has different laws, and so do the states (I assume?)

[Jakke PNG]

Also, TGP's are a business. TGP owners share 'enough' content to keep visitors happy but still make money. Torrent USERS are people who just want to share content, for free, without any financial gain. They just want as much for 100% free as they can...that is if we take piratebay etc trackers and rapidshare and the like out of the equation who are making a buck out of it. The USERS of these services, the 'surfers' who do the actual surfing aren't intrested whether anyone makes money or not.

TGP owners do care. (or atleast should care)