Man arrested for using cafes free wifi from his car!!! - GoFuckYourself.com

[ Nate ] · 05-25-2007, 08:04 AM

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...m-his-car.html

This guy was using wifi from the parking lot of a cafe and got arrested for it!!!

Goodings Media · 05-25-2007, 08:22 AM

hehe good for him, why pay for something thats free?

fallenmuffin · 05-25-2007, 08:25 AM

Shit happens...

RedShoe · 05-25-2007, 08:28 AM

Jesus, I do that in Maui all the time. You can get it almost anywhere in Kahului. I didn't know it was illegal.

TheLegacy · 05-25-2007, 08:32 AM

bet it was porn that made him do it

Pleasurepays · 05-25-2007, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe

Jesus, I do that in Maui all the time. You can get it almost anywhere in Kahului. I didn't know it was illegal.

you didn't know that theft of services was illegal?

JamesK2 · 05-25-2007, 08:33 AM

What a load of shite, he obviously didn't know it was illegal. (Neither did I)

JamesK2 · 05-25-2007, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

you didn't know that theft of services was illegal?

Well if they don't secure the connection with a password and put a big sign outside that using the WiFi without ordering shit is illegal, IMO they're just asking for it.

peeperpimp · 05-25-2007, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe

Jesus, I do that in Maui all the time. You can get it almost anywhere in Kahului. I didn't know it was illegal.

It shouldn't be ileagal, if cafe's got da connection opened to the Public its up for grabs...

what if I lived above the cafe and picked up the signal they have opened to share Then what? , I couldn't use it?...

Thats BS... If They don't want anyone to use it then they can make it private and give their patrons the password when patrons walk thru the door... (i.e. via text on the menu or sumthin)

SmokeyTheBear · 05-25-2007, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

you didn't know that theft of services was illegal?

well it both is and isnt as simple as that

I was always under the assumption that if you have an OPEN wireless network you were basically "granting" authorization to use the service.

but i suppose that isn't very logical , as just because i leave my house door unlocked doesnt mean i am "granting" authorization to come use my stuff.

RedShoe · 05-25-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

you didn't know that theft of services was illegal?

Take your laptop tp Maui. Open it up on any street in Kahului and you get internet. That's theivery?? Who the fuck am I supposed to pay? Just send a check into the city of Kahului? It's not a secure service. I mean you don't need an acces spas or anything. It just works.

Upcountry I have a desktop and an actual paid connection but if we're out and about you can just get it. I mean it's an XP so it's always just connected to the wifi in town.

And naw man, seriously I had no idea you had to pay for it.

How do you pay for it though? Like if Starbucks has an open connection and 8 other stores in the area do as well, who do you pay?

Fetish Gimp · 05-25-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesK

Well if they don't secure the connection with a password and put a big sign outside that using the WiFi without ordering shit is illegal, IMO they're just asking for it.

I agree. Same thing as leaving a shop open and unattended and being shocked that people are going in and robbing it blind. Same goes for your personal wifi, secure your shit dumbass, it ain't rocket science.

ADL Josh · 05-25-2007, 08:44 AM

that sux!!!

peeperpimp · 05-25-2007, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp

I agree. Same thing as leaving a shop open and unattended and being shocked that people are going in and robbing it blind. Same goes for your personal wifi, secure your shit dumbass, it ain't rocket science.

I agree a shared connection is a shared connection up for grabs..

if U dont wanna share it openly then secure it and just give your customers the password...

It really isn't rocket science...

The Stupidity of people just dusqusts me

Pleasurepays · 05-25-2007, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe

Take your laptop tp Maui. Open it up on any street in Kahului and you get internet. That's theivery?? Who the fuck am I supposed to pay?

not knowing who not to pay doesn't mean that taking something for free isn't theft.

you are aware that you are getting it for free.. you are aware that others are paying for it. you are aware that you should be paying for it. you are aware that no one is intending for you to use it for free.

Sarah_Jayne · 05-25-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp

I agree. Same thing as leaving a shop open and unattended and being shocked that people are going in and robbing it blind. Same goes for your personal wifi, secure your shit dumbass, it ain't rocket science.

My ethics might be weird but even if somebody leaves their shop unattended I don't think I have the right to take things from it.

tony286 · 05-25-2007, 08:50 AM

its amazing when it has to do with the internet right and wrong go out the window

ztik · 05-25-2007, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by [ Nate ]

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...m-his-car.html

This guy was using wifi from the parking lot of a cafe and got arrested for it!!!

That should not be illegal at all. Thats fucking stupid shit

directfiesta · 05-25-2007, 08:55 AM

Note to myself:

Keep old empty cups ( Starbucks, 2nd cup, etc..) and put on dash while using wifi.

peeperpimp · 05-25-2007, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

not knowing who not to pay doesn't mean that taking something for free isn't theft.

you are aware that you are getting it for free.. you are aware that others are paying for it. you are aware that you should be paying for it. you are aware that no one is intending for you to use it for free.

But If It's a Hot Spot and the connection is being shared openly with the public then their giving it away...

In an effort to attract clientel (hello) marketing gimmick, and it works...

just like when U see store employees giving away physcal goods in front of the biz in an effort to get people to come inside and buy /spend money...

They don't give that stuff away and then call the cops and have you arrested cause you decided not to go in, and walk away instead

So for every one using it outside theres one inside buying sumthin..

thats the price / consequence the biz pays / takes...

Otherwise why make it public just supply the paying customers with the password

Fetish Gimp · 05-25-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

My ethics might be weird but even if somebody leaves their shop unattended I don't think I have the right to take things from it.

I guess you also leave your car open and running while you do grocery shopping and are SHOCKED and APPALLED when you find somebody with no ethics whatsoever stole it.

It's called common sense, you should try getting some. It's awesome.

jimthefiend · 05-25-2007, 08:58 AM

Well I'm fucked. I know every bar in town thats close to an unsecured network.

Sarah_Jayne · 05-25-2007, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp

I guess you also leave your car open and running while you do grocery shopping and are SHOCKED and APPALLED when you find somebody with no ethics whatsoever stole it.

It's called common sense, you should try getting some. It's awesome.

If you think it would be okay to take that car you have messed up ethics. Personally, I don't even leave my front door unlocked when I am actually in it but if I leave it unlocked there is no excuse for anybody to walk inside of it without my permission.

RedShoe · 05-25-2007, 09:02 AM

Anyone here ever find money on the ground? Quarter? Dollar? 5 bucks?

Was it YOUR money? Did you turn it into the authorities? Did you try to find the rightful owner? You know it wasn't your money. Let me guess, you played 'finder keepers' with it right?

FUCKING THIEVES!

.

pornguy · 05-25-2007, 09:05 AM

I like the part where they say the arrest will not go on his record. What a fucking joke.

peeperpimp · 05-25-2007, 09:07 AM

This is more like a store owner standing in front of his store and giving away free sample in an effort to attract customers...

Some peeps will go in and some won't...

is it right for the store owner to call the cops and have those that accepted the free sample and walked away arrested cause they didn't come in and spend money...

C'mon, Thats just stupid

pornguy · 05-25-2007, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe

Anyone here ever find money on the ground? Quarter? Dollar? 5 bucks?

Was it YOUR money? Did you turn it into the authorities? Did you try to find the rightful owner? You know it wasn't your money. Let me guess, you played 'finder keepers' with it right?

FUCKING THIEVES!

.

Exactly right. By law in most states, you have to take the money to the police, they will impound it. If no one claims it in 90 days, then the copy of the impound sheet, says that you own it.

IF the money if a hight enough value, then the PD may try to take it through the courts.

Other wise, if you keep it, you are guilty if theft.

Fetish Gimp · 05-25-2007, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

If you think it would be okay to take that car you have messed up ethics. Personally, I don't even leave my front door unlocked when I am actually in it but if I leave it unlocked there is no excuse for anybody to walk inside of it without my permission.

Yeah, and if everybody was nice and caring and gave each other hugs we could all sit under a waterfall and sing songs and watch the birds and prance around with flowers in our hair.

But back in the real world you lock your doors, don't let people see your ATM pin number, use firewalls and secure your wifi because, NEWSFLASH, not everybody is nice and ethical and says thank you.

That is the point you so obviously are trying so hard to ignore.

Sarah_Jayne · 05-25-2007, 09:13 AM

So, because not everybody follows the rules it is okay to break them? I am trying to follow your reasoning.

Penthouse Tony · 05-25-2007, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Note to myself:

Keep old empty cups ( Starbucks, 2nd cup, etc..) and put on dash while using wifi.

This guy wouldn't have been caught if he didn't open his big mouth. All he had to say is that he was checking his e-mail and no you cannot have a look at my computer.

LiveDose · 05-25-2007, 09:15 AM

Interesting thread.

Pleasurepays · 05-25-2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by peeperpimp

But If It's a Hot Spot and the connection is being shared openly with the public then their giving it away...

dude... try to grasp a little reality here. 1) you don't own the service... 2) they do. that means that 3) you don't determine the terms of use and 4) just because its there, don't you think that the intent of free access is for PAYING CUSTOMERS? isn't that obvious?

shekinah · 05-25-2007, 09:16 AM

shit happens anywhere every time unexpectedly

Penthouse Tony · 05-25-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

dude... try to grasp a little reality here. 1) you don't own the service... 2) they do. that means that 3) you don't determine the terms of use and 4) just because its there, don't you think that the intent of free access is for PAYING CUSTOMERS? isn't that obvious?

How is one suppose to know the terms of the service?

Fetish Gimp · 05-25-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

So, because not everybody follows the rules it is okay to break them? I am trying to follow your reasoning.

Because not everybody follows the rules it is reasonable to take steps to protect yourself. This stunning feat of logic is sometimes called "common sense".

Is being obtuse something you do professionally or are you simply gifted?

Evil E · 05-25-2007, 09:19 AM

Another display of fascism from the Americans. Your laws are fucking stupid.

peeperpimp · 05-25-2007, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

dude... try to grasp a little reality here. 1) you don't own the service... 2) they do. that means that 3) you don't determine the terms of use and 4) just because its there, don't you think that the intent of free access is for PAYING CUSTOMERS? isn't that obvious?

Your right but as I said above....

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Originally Posted by peeperpimp

This is more like a store owner standing in front of his store and giving away free sample in an effort to attract customers...

Some peeps will go in and some won't...

is it right for the store owner to call the cops and have those that accepted the free sample and walked away arrested cause they didn't come in and spend money...

C'mon, Thats just stupid

Otherwise why not just secure the connection &give the paying customers the password... It's not that hard to add it / print it on the menu for customers to get

SmokeyTheBear · 05-25-2007, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe

Anyone here ever find money on the ground? Quarter? Dollar? 5 bucks?

Was it YOUR money? Did you turn it into the authorities? Did you try to find the rightful owner? You know it wasn't your money. Let me guess, you played 'finder keepers' with it right?

FUCKING THIEVES!

.

heh , there actually is aprocess for this..

I found about 2 thousand dollars when i was a kid and my parents made me turn it in to the cops , and they make advertisements in the paper asking people to identify the cash , and strangely enough nobody came forward and i got the cash back .

but of course we have all found like a $20 or $50 bill before and not said anything. , not sure what the crime would be if you could prove it ..

Like if lets say there was a stickeron the bill or something, would someone get charged for not turning in a $20 bill he found, and what would the charge be ?

Pleasurepays · 05-25-2007, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF

How is one suppose to know the terms of the service?

how are you supposed to know not to get into someones car and drive off in if no one tells you not to.

are you fucking retarded? maybe ask the owners? maybe seek clarification before stealing? if you know its not yours.. you know someone is paying for it... any person with an IQ over 10 probably realizes (and certainly the law expects you to) that it probably wasn't intended for you to use for free.

.... OOOOOH..

oops. sorry... forgot i was talking to the same fucking morons that claimed they were "forced" to steal from affiliates.

my bad.

mattz · 05-25-2007, 09:23 AM

That's the cafe's fault in my opinion, they should have a password to access it. When you pay, they then give you the password or something like that.

Penthouse Tony · 05-25-2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mattz

That's the cafe's fault in my opinion, they should have a password to access it. When you pay, they then give you the password or something like that.

From the article it didn't look like the cafe really cared much. This is just a anal cop with nothing better to do. Cafe probably ran out of donuts.

D · 05-25-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Fetish Gimp

But back in the real world you lock your doors, don't let people see your ATM pin number, use firewalls and secure your wifi because, NEWSFLASH, not everybody is nice and ethical and says thank you.

That is the point you so obviously are trying so hard to ignore.

I don't think it's being ignored.

Security is just common sense, because there are people out there with loose enough ethics to try and take stuff that doesn't belong to them - that's a fact of life.

But any lack of security still doesn't excuse the fact that they do.

I think the point that a lot of people here seem to be missing, is just because it may be easy to take something that doesn't belong to you, that doesn't all-of-a-sudden mean that you have the right to.

mattz · 05-25-2007, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by peeperpimp

This is more like a store owner standing in front of his store and giving away free sample in an effort to attract customers...

Some peeps will go in and some won't...

is it right for the store owner to call the cops and have those that accepted the free sample and walked away arrested cause they didn't come in and spend money...

C'mon, Thats just stupid

That's not comparable...places like Starbucks aren't giving it away for free, I know the Starbucks where I live you have to go inside and pay to use their wifi

peeperpimp · 05-25-2007, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

dude... try to grasp a little reality here. 1) you don't own the service... 2) they do. that means that 3) you don't determine the terms of use and 4) just because its there, don't you think that the intent of free access is for PAYING CUSTOMERS? isn't that obvious?

I run a store in my neighborhood and do the same thing and i sure as hell would not stand outside and give away free samples to get customers and then have those who decided not to come in arrested....

Ace_luffy · 05-25-2007, 09:34 AM

i hope he can order a cup of coffee on the coffee shops

Fetish Gimp · 05-25-2007, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by D

I think the point that a lot of people here seem to be missing, is just because it may be easy to take something that doesn't belong to you, that doesn't all-of-a-sudden mean that you have the right to.

I concur, and I personally would not take something which does not belong to me or has been clearly offered.

But I am also not blind to the fact that, holee shit mah who would've thunked it, not everybody thinks the same way, and take steps to ensure my shit is secure.

peeperpimp · 05-25-2007, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mattz

That's not comparable...places like Starbucks aren't giving it away for free, I know the Starbucks where I live you have to go inside and pay to use their wifi

Ah but in my area I know quite a few starbucks managers and they are giving it away for free (shared connections) accept for one who wants people to pay for it and he keeps his connection secure ad provides patrons with passwords

Penthouse Tony · 05-25-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

how are you supposed to know not to get into someones car and drive off in if no one tells you not to.

are you fucking retarded? maybe ask the owners? maybe seek clarification before stealing? if you know its not yours.. you know someone is paying for it... any person with an IQ over 10 probably realizes (and certainly the law expects you to) that it probably wasn't intended for you to use for free.

.... OOOOOH..

oops. sorry... forgot i was talking to the same fucking morons that claimed they were "forced" to steal from affiliates.

my bad.

Standing on the corner of a street and you pick up a WiFi signal. I'll ask again how do you find the owner?

geedub · 05-25-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesK

Well if they don't secure the connection with a password and put a big sign outside that using the WiFi without ordering shit is illegal, IMO they're just asking for it.

ding ding ding!!! if they dont secure it, its their own damn fault. kinda nuts he was in the parking lot lol he probably could of sat somewhere better than their parking lot.

Manowar · 05-25-2007, 09:49 AM

hard to secure it for a cafe, someone could get the password then walk out and just start using it

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