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4 Teens killed when they hit train
The story is on the front of CNN right now. It is a truly tragic story, but it shows exactly what is wrong with the mentality of most Americans when it comes to liablity.
6 teens, ranging in age from 13 to 15, are off joyriding in a stolen SUV. Okay, so let's see. None of them are old enough to have a license. The vehicle is stolen. Got it? Oh, did I mention it is something like 3 in the morning? Apparently they are flying down a two lane road in the dark at high speed in a stolen vehicle without a license and they slam into the side of a stopped train (it was dark, they didn't see it, apparently) and 4 girls in the back seat are killed. Wait for it: There is only 3 seatbelts in the back seat, it is a 5 passenger SUV (old cherokee). Now, the father of one of the girls, who lives very close to the place where the accident occurs is up in the face of the railroad people for parking a train there (apparently happens fairly often). He says basically "If you didn't park the train there, my daughter wouldn't be dead, you fucker!" or something to that effect. Holy shit. My mind reels dealing with this sort of fucked up logic. Dude, I know you just lost your daughter and you are probably saying some stupid shit, but... It's 3 fucking AM. Why is your 15 year old daughter out at that time without an adult? What the fuck is she doing in a stolen car? Without a icensed driver? Speed in the dark.... likely without her seatbelt on because there wasn't enough to go around anyway? There is any number of points along this story where the parent could have taken their personal responsbility and none of this would have happened. Blaming the railroad for parking the train there is so fucking far down the list... Sadly, he will probably sue the railroad and win. tort reform. It's needed. |
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They had it coming to them. Sucks, but it's true.
Blaming anyone or anything else is just plain retarded... |
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I believe it is called contributory negligence.
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yea it doesnt make sense at all, parents need to be more responsible for their children, clearly they shouldnt have been out at that time...
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Surely the train hit them?
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Why be responsible when you can sue and blame other people? its the american way
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I'm sure the money they get from the lawsuit will replace their daughter just fine.
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certain ppl wanna blame everyone else.... whenever a kid is violent its because of 50 Cent... whenever a kid smokes weed its because of Snoop Dogg and Method Man... whenever a kid rams a stolen SUV into a parked train...it's the train
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Yup, and it is the worst type of stupid legal result possible.
There was any number of steps that could have been taken to prevent this accident. The crossing, while in a dark place, does have non-lit crossing sites, and it isn't like someone snuck in late at night and suddenly plunked train tracks down. A train being on the train tracks... who would have thunk it? The train company should sue the parents for damaging their train and loss of use of the tracks. |
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Thank god those fucking morons didn't kill innocent people. BooHoo.
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Jeez..what a tragic way to lose your life
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Holy shit! Seat belts save lives....
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May they R.I.P.
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Forget who was driving the car or that it was stolen. Should trains be allowed to stop on unlighted crossings? Maybe there needs to be a law that at least puts light reflectors on all train cars.
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Only in america.
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That's precisely what should happen.
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what a way to go...
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theres alwasy 2 ways to look at it..
just because one party is grossly negligent doesn't mean the other party is also not grossly negligent. A court case is used to decide who is more negligent.. common sense i suppose might say both sides were equally negligent , but the train didnt lose a daughter. If your drunk driving and hit a stolen car your still negligent for the damages you cause.
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I'm sorry; I feel for his loss of his 15 year old daughter. However, she was cruising around in a stolen SUV (breaking the law) and not wearing her seat belt (again breaking the law). Chances are there were dozens of other laws breaking (speeding, etc). The person at fault here is the driver who was speeding down the road in a stolen SUV with passengers who didnt' have their seat belts on. Man, if this happened to me I'd be pissed.
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Here's a CNN video link:
http://www.cnn.com/video/player/play...its.train.khou
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Seems to me this wasn't a dirt road, but a someone commonly used paved road - with no lights or anything. The SUV hit it's breaks thirty-five feet from the tracks.
They never had a chance. Can someone explain to me why in the world a train would be sitting blocking a road with no lights? At 3am in the morning? Can somone explain to me how they don't have lights at a rail road crossing?
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The railroad co. could use that as part of their defense, but not the father as part of his complaint..
Contributory negligence says that a plaintiff was also negligent in some way that helped contribute to the problem.. |
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the father should be allowed to fuck the wife of the train conductor to get another daughter, word!
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I think the SUV driver was more liable than the train operator.
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they were probably fat too.
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And then tell me why there are teenagers from the ages of 13-15 driving a stolen suv at 3 am? Sorry but they had what was coming, so did the parents. Parents should step up to the plate and take control of their shitbag kids. I see this kinda stupid shit everywhere. Always someone elses fault. Retarded parents = eat my ass. |
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need more details - if a court decides that the train being left where it was with little illumination and that it was a potential hazard to drivers then they have a great case. if a judge determines even a cold sober driver might have made met the same fate then whether the kids were drunk or not shouldn't matter that much, when assessing damages/fault i'm sure the judge would take it into consideration.
i seriously doubt that somebody is leaving a train in the middle of an unlit road crossing - there'd be dead people every other week.
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The fact they were driving a stolen car at 3 am or that they were not wearing seat belts hase nothing to fucking do with it. What the fuck is that train doing sitting there in the middle of the night with no lights on it or on the signs?!!!
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Another thing, even in the pitch black, if you had headlights on, you would be able to see this train much farther away than 35 feet.
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You blame the parents? Those of you who blame the parents must not have kids, because - as scary as this sounds - you do not always know where your kids are at all times. The sleep over at a friends house..... sneak out.... When I was sixteen I lied about having to go to work - two nights in a row. The first night I had my driver's license confiscated by an off duty cop, and when I went out the next night to the police station to get it back I lost control of my car, and hit another car head on at 40mph. The car I hit had a 14 year old mentally retarded kid and his mother in the car. (Thankfully no one was serously hurt.) I also remember when I was a kid one of my classmates snuck out, grabbed the family car, ended up drinking, and drove off a cliff. We all did stupid shit when we were kids. Some of us lived to tell about it.
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Sure they can sue - but the fact still stands.. your daughter is still dead.
HA HA. Seriously.
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poor teens.. they are too young to die
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did you watch the video you posted earlier in the thread? the road looks pretty wide open to me, and i dont know about you, but i slow down when i go around curves that might restrict my view.
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Tragic one....
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