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Old 07-10-2007, 01:57 PM   #101
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I'm going to guess that the only reason Israel isn't listed higher is the fact that they have never publicly acknowledged their nuclear arsenal, so no one really knows the depth of it. Israel does NOT need the US to protect it. If Israel had been allowed to keep the oil fields they captured in the 6 Day War, which was a defensive war on their part, they would have never needed economic aid and the US oil problems would not be what they are today...

They 6 day war was defensive in the same sense that the current Iraq war is defensive.

Israel is strong but they do need our massive military aid to support them.
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quack quack says the taliban cocksucker J. Falcon

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Of course, I must be a terrorist now, since I dont agree with you. Please continue this interesting exhibition of your ignorance for others to see. It's idiots like you that prove my point every time they open their mouths.
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They 6 day war was defensive in the same sense that the current Iraq war is defensive.

Israel is strong but they do need our massive military aid to support them.
Your kidding, right? The 6 Day War was a completely defensive war that started with military build ups on the Israeli borders by Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, and Jordan. Had the Soviets not brokered the cease fire Israel would've marched right through to Cairo, Damascus and Amman. How is that in any way comparable to the invasion of Iraq?
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STFU commie.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA so anyone who believes the US lost the war is a communist? I have just been labled a terrorist and a communist. My God, your stupidity is beyond comprehension.
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They 6 day war was defensive in the same sense that the current Iraq war is defensive.

Israel is strong but they do need our massive military aid to support them.
Bullshit. Israel can level the middle east anytime they feel like it. They've proven MANY times that they can handle their own national security. You're just plain wrong on that one.

They've also made it perfectly clear that they are not a satellite state of the US and that THEY themselves make the final decisions in situations directly effecting their security interests and no one else.
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Bullshit. Israel can level the middle east anytime they feel like it. They've proven MANY times that they can handle their own national security. You're just plain wrong on that one.

They've also made it perfectly clear that they are not a satellite state of the US and that THEY themselves make the final decisions in situations directly effecting their security interests and no one else.
Very well said
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA so anyone who believes the US lost the war is a communist? I have just been labled a terrorist and a communist. My God, your stupidity is beyond comprehension.

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Iraq so far 3600

Durring WWII there might have been a FEW days were we lost that many over all the average was 350 a day. Also not to disrespect the men and women in Iraq risking there lives there is a HUGE difference between WWII and this war. If we never invaded Iraq, Saddam is still in power and is mainly being a pain in the ass to his own people. If we never get involved in WWII we have the Nazi flag flying above the White House.
And if we never got involved in Iraq, Iraq would own Kuwait, and perhaps a few other countries. How much would our oil cost then?
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USA hasnt won a war in 40 years.

Sure we have. We have defeated many terrorist plots in recent years. We ousted Saddam Hussein and Slobodan Milosevic.

The basic nature of warfare has changed over the last half century. In the past, war was Country v. Country. Now, most war is asymetrical warfare, fly by night Terrorists V. the State.

If any *country* were to declare war on the USA and attack us --does anyone really doubt the outcome?
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Your kidding, right? The 6 Day War was a completely defensive war that started with military build ups on the Israeli borders by Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, and Jordan. Had the Soviets not brokered the cease fire Israel would've marched right through to Cairo, Damascus and Amman. How is that in any way comparable to the invasion of Iraq?


Yes, the Israeli occupation of the entire Arab world would have gone swimmingly. The lands they did occupy during that war (West Bank, East Jerusalem, Golan Heights) are what plague them to this day as it is. Imagine the level of violence we'd be seeing if they had been trying to hold "Cairo, Damascus and Amman".

It was not defensive. The Egyptians moved their army into the Sinai desert and cut of Israeli shipping lines. This does not mean they were about to invade Israel. I'm not saying they didn't have a right to feel threatened, but the IDF launched a first strike attack. Even Kissinger agrees with me on this one. Nasser was incompetent and got caught with his pants down, lost his entire air force in a couple hours, and the war was over. lol, and here we are 40 years later, only 200 years away from peace.
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Bullshit. Israel can level the middle east anytime they feel like it. They've proven MANY times that they can handle their own national security. You're just plain wrong on that one.

They've also made it perfectly clear that they are not a satellite state of the US and that THEY themselves make the final decisions in situations directly effecting their security interests and no one else.

No, they need the billions of dollars in military aid we provide them to support their air force and nuclear arsenal. They don't need our army, and they are not a satellite of ours, but they rely heavily on our aid. It's not charity though, we need them too.
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Am I the only one on earth who doesnt consider the Iraq conflict an actual "War"?

I'm thinking more along the lines of a Police Action. Maybe I'm crazy though.

Either way, Falcon you're a little off in your logic.
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No, they need the billions of dollars in military aid we provide them to support their air force and nuclear arsenal.
Noooo, they DON'T.


You have the numbers handy on how much "aid" we send to them that gets funnelled right to the IDF?

I do.
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Am I the only one on earth who doesnt consider the Iraq conflict an actual "War"?

I'm thinking more along the lines of a Police Action. Maybe I'm crazy though.

Either way, Falcon you're a little off in your logic.
Bush said in Cleveland today it was in fact a war
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Of course he did. DUH.
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Am I the only one on earth who doesnt consider the Iraq conflict an actual "War"?

I'm thinking more along the lines of a Police Action. Maybe I'm crazy though.

Either way, Falcon you're a little off in your logic.


It's not a police action or a war, it's a military occupation and an attempt at creating a puppet government. Closest in modern history to the French in Algiers. Will end the same way too.
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Israel's army is one of the most technologically advanced in the world. But here is the actual list

According to the CIA and other Intelligence Services (European, Asian, African) this is the tally - based on a Combination of Manpower, Technology, Firepower, Training, Resources, Available Reserves, and Nuclear Potential (Current or Likely):
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2. China
3. Germany
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10. Pakistan

Want to see some really interesting facts look these countries up on Janes Guide.
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USA/RUSSIA

But any country with the big bomb theoretically can wipe out any other. The technological playing field is becoming more level as time goes on to the point where the size of your army is less important. A billion Chinese fighters will disintegrate under a big bomb explosion just as easily as a single man.
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Am I the only one on earth who doesnt consider the Iraq conflict an actual "War"?

I'm thinking more along the lines of a Police Action. Maybe I'm crazy though.

Either way, Falcon you're a little off in your logic.

You are not crazy, just blind of the facts. There is no policing going on, just a country screwing over a weaker country to seize their oil.
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Am I the only one on earth who doesnt consider the Iraq conflict an actual "War"?

I'm thinking more along the lines of a Police Action. Maybe I'm crazy though.

Either way, Falcon you're a little off in your logic.
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Bullshit. Israel can level the middle east anytime they feel like it. They've proven MANY times that they can handle their own national security. You're just plain wrong on that one.
I dont think that holds so true anymore. Israel is too worried about casualties, like the US and other nations are today. Lebanon in 2006 showed that no doubt they have the technology to blow shit up but politicians don't let the military fully follow up on the ground.
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Yes, the Israeli occupation of the entire Arab world would have gone swimmingly. The lands they did occupy during that war (West Bank, East Jerusalem, Golan Heights) are what plague them to this day as it is. Imagine the level of violence we'd be seeing if they had been trying to hold "Cairo, Damascus and Amman".

It was not defensive. The Egyptians moved their army into the Sinai desert and cut of Israeli shipping lines. This does not mean they were about to invade Israel. I'm not saying they didn't have a right to feel threatened, but the IDF launched a first strike attack. Even Kissinger agrees with me on this one. Nasser was incompetent and got caught with his pants down, lost his entire air force in a couple hours, and the war was over. lol, and here we are 40 years later, only 200 years away from peace.
These exact words came from Nasser's mouth... "As of today, there no longer exists an international emergency force to protect Israel. We shall exercise patience no more. We shall not complain any more to the UN about Israel. The sole method we shall apply against Israel is total war, which will result in the extermination of Zionist existence." Along with these... "The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel...to face the challenge, while standing behind us are the armies of Iraq, Algeria, Kuwait, Sudan and the whole Arab nation. This act will astound the world. Today they will know that the Arabs are arranged for battle, the critical hour has arrived. We have reached the stage of serious action and not declarations."

It wasn't just the supply line being caught off...all 4 of those countries mobilized their troops on the Israeli borders and their sole purpose was to invade Israel. The fact that the IDF stuck Egypt first was irrelevant at that point...they had no choice, as they couldn't stay mobilized forever.
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I dont think that holds so true anymore. Israel is too worried about casualties, like the US and other nations are today. Lebanon in 2006 showed that no doubt they have the technology to blow shit up but politicians don't let the military fully follow up on the ground.
I don't think Lebanon was so much about the casualties as it was the fact that Israel had to walk on eggshells during this most recent conflict in Lebanon due to Hezbollah being so entrenched in civilian villages and using them as a human blockade/shield. Israel could've easily leveled most of Lebanon had it chosen to not be sensitive to civilian casualties...
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No problem mr. nobody, been doing it for years and I still have more friends here than you have probably ever had in real life

I'm just purging the the bullshit, and you smell today

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army is made to protect civilians.
terror is a shortcut to those exactly.
when a few terrorists have the ability to kill thousands of civilians, what good is an army ?
terror is grown in civilian residents which in it also operates in order to protect itself.
it doesn't matter how strong an army is - as long as it presents a civilized party - it will never bombard civilians enough to destroy all terrorists in it.
in reality no one will nuke anyone unless that one will nuke them first. and it won't happen.
that's why I say the strongest army in the world is that of an Islamic terror group. the fact that I can not associate it with a country (as in "the army of Afghanistan or Iran or whatever") tells you more about how undefeatable it is.
they draft from terror sites on the internet, they use democracy and freedom of speech of other countries to state their point of view, they will hit all YOUR soft spots with no mercy.
the only way to stop them is to kill the poverty from which they strive from, turn their countries to regions that fight ingrowing terror.
their strength come from the fact they have nearly nothing to lose.
just my opinion, I think one day someone will understand my point.
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Israel has one of the most advanced armys in the world but they cant even fucking invade lebanon without getting their ass handed to them

china has the best army, and the usa hasnt won a war in the past 40 years lmao, they cant even kill crazy arabs with AK's
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The greatest day in my life, was the day my dad came home from Vietnam with his gook ear belt. He made me a belt out of the ears of dead vietnamese women and children. It was awesome, and I still have it hanging on my wall and everytime I feel sad, I play with the ears and it makes me smile
Aww....how sociopathic of you, and how purely psychotic of your father, the sensibility of it all brings tears to my eyes, and just think...the greatest day in the life of a foolish, ignorant, sad, unstable little wanna-be maniac.
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:53 PM   #144
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to the person who said israel is to worrie about casulties, are you on fucking crack, they kill woman and children, use them as slaves, have elgalized torture and inprison kids for political reasons...they used chemical bombs in the lebanon war that killed tons of civillians, but army vs army israel dont have shit on hizbullah
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:54 PM   #145
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only almost a million of them


geeeennnniiiiuuussssss!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:55 PM   #146
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hahaha godamn look at these just signed up to gfy trolls coming out in full force


here's to you! fuckheads
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:56 PM   #147
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Israel has one of the most advanced armys in the world but they cant even fucking invade lebanon without getting their ass handed to them

china has the best army, and the usa hasnt won a war in the past 40 years lmao, they cant even kill crazy arabs with AK's
Ass handed to them by Lebanon? Not quite. Had they been able to fight that conflict without the rest of the world over their shoulder scrutinizing their every move Hezbollah would no longer exist in Lebanon.
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hezbollah pushed israel out, if israel wernt losing they wouldnt of agreed to a ceasfire
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:57 PM   #149
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Aww....how sociopathic of you, and how purely psychotic of your father, the sensibility of it all brings tears to my eyes, and just think...the greatest day in the life of a foolish, ignorant, sad, unstable little wanna-be maniac.


I also have gook skin lamp shades.

I once sold one on ebay as "lamb" skin...no one knew any better.
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:58 PM   #150
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If you guys do not forget the 'time' which is taken by each country to become this strong, I'd say China is far better than US.

China took less than 60 years whereas US took nearly ~250 years to come into the strength where they are now.
FYI-China has been around for over 4,000 years. I'd say they're getting to the party rather late.
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