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SleazyDream 07-22-2007 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12797934)
having people like will76, Scootermuze, or Dirty Franck back you 100% pretty much ends someone's credibility in their career.


mind you - this IS still true. it's kind of like having a Hitler endorsement :2 cents:

Magnum PI 07-22-2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798327)
and although this is little comfort considering the damage that has been done, I'm offering a $1000 credit with cybercat on my site to Lisa if she has galleries or banners or hard links she wants to advertise for her program or any other she wants to promote.

hit me up on icq to get that 105 713 197

SleazyDream is a stand up guy! :thumbsup

Dopy 07-22-2007 03:44 PM

Dr Jekyll leaves the thread, Mr Hyde enters.

RAM 07-22-2007 03:47 PM

Well i wonder now if the TWO who started this BS can say something like...wow sorry.

I forgot.....still need to view the Hard Rock Tapes...heheheh That is kinda soundling like Nixon and Water Gate Tapes...............!!!!!

Theo 07-22-2007 03:49 PM

good post SD

Brujah 07-22-2007 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798327)
Honestly I am wrong about Lisa.


Nice thing to do. The cybercat credit was also a nice gesture. :thumbsup

commonsense 07-22-2007 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798327)
I re-read this entire thread.

Honestly I am wrong about Lisa.

Yep - publically admitting it.

Based on what I read - yes I would have been pissed if I had sceen her name on my credit card bill and probally would have accused her as well publically. I would have been SUPER pissed if someone else like mike hawk did it for me though without my concent. :2 cents:

but re-reading everything Lisa's posted and her consistant stance on this issue - honestly I beleive her now. She is innocent here.

this honestly is a nightmear for her and she is the victum of a horrible error.

Lisa - i offer a public apology to you.

and to the fuckhead trolls. yep - you won one against me. do a happy dance. I admit I was wrong. Please rub it in - I deserve it and remind me for years about it on here. know though that i am a big enough man to admit when I am wrong.

legally - against czasa it may be hard to sue. what he said at the start was pretty solid. against mike hawk - you have legal grounds to go after him and should. him posting your name was honestly SLIMY. against the hotel - there is a HUGE lawsuit there and you should sue them.

against me? i commented on what I read. feel free to sue but freedom of speach pretty much proects me commenting. I admit I was wrong about how I posted about you after i reread the entire thread.

At this post I feel Lisa Sparx is honest and a victum and has had her career hurt substaintly over this.

and although this is little comfort considering the damage that has been done, I'm offering a $1000 credit with cybercat on my site to Lisa if she has galleries or banners or hard links she wants to advertise for her program or any other she wants to promote.

hit me up on icq to get that 105 713 197

Lisa I give you a LOT of credit for standing up to this like you did. Shows a lot regardig you character.

I'm sorry if my comments hurt you in any way.

also if you would like to do an ambush interview please let me know.

:thumbsup

BoyAlley 07-22-2007 04:39 PM

LAWDS MERCY!

will76 07-22-2007 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12797055)
I seriously consider Sleazy one of the dumbest persons on this board. Together with Spacedog and JaneB.

seriously, no one comes close. Sleazy is in a class all to himself.

will76 07-22-2007 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798327)
I re-read this entire thread.

Honestly I am wrong about Lisa.

Yep - publically admitting it.

Based on what I read - yes I would have been pissed if I had sceen her name on my credit card bill and probally would have accused her as well publically. I would have been SUPER pissed if someone else like mike hawk did it for me though without my concent. :2 cents:

but re-reading everything Lisa's posted and her consistant stance on this issue - honestly I beleive her now. She is innocent here.

this honestly is a nightmear for her and she is the victum of a horrible error.

Lisa - i offer a public apology to you.

and to the fuckhead trolls. yep - you won one against me. do a happy dance. I admit I was wrong. Please rub it in - I deserve it and remind me for years about it on here. know though that i am a big enough man to admit when I am wrong.

legally - against czasa it may be hard to sue. what he said at the start was pretty solid. against mike hawk - you have legal grounds to go after him and should. him posting your name was honestly SLIMY. against the hotel - there is a HUGE lawsuit there and you should sue them.

against me? i commented on what I read. feel free to sue but freedom of speach pretty much proects me commenting. I admit I was wrong about how I posted about you after i reread the entire thread.

At this post I feel Lisa Sparx is honest and a victum and has had her career hurt substaintly over this.

and although this is little comfort considering the damage that has been done, I'm offering a $1000 credit with cybercat on my site to Lisa if she has galleries or banners or hard links she wants to advertise for her program or any other she wants to promote.

hit me up on icq to get that 105 713 197

Lisa I give you a LOT of credit for standing up to this like you did. Shows a lot regardig you character.

I'm sorry if my comments hurt you in any way.

also if you would like to do an ambush interview please let me know.

fuck off. Only trolls who want to bang her are supporting her in this thread. You are a bro so you can't support her, only us trolls can.


no need to rub it in, you've done more damage to yourself in the comments you make then anyone here could ever make against you.

lisa sparks 07-22-2007 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798327)
I re-read this entire thread.

Honestly I am wrong about Lisa.

Yep - publically admitting it.

Based on what I read - yes I would have been pissed if I had sceen her name on my credit card bill and probally would have accused her as well publically. I would have been SUPER pissed if someone else like mike hawk did it for me though without my concent. :2 cents:

but re-reading everything Lisa's posted and her consistant stance on this issue - honestly I beleive her now. She is innocent here.

this honestly is a nightmear for her and she is the victum of a horrible error.

Lisa - i offer a public apology to you.

and to the fuckhead trolls. yep - you won one against me. do a happy dance. I admit I was wrong. Please rub it in - I deserve it and remind me for years about it on here. know though that i am a big enough man to admit when I am wrong.

legally - against czasa it may be hard to sue. what he said at the start was pretty solid. against mike hawk - you have legal grounds to go after him and should. him posting your name was honestly SLIMY. against the hotel - there is a HUGE lawsuit there and you should sue them.

against me? i commented on what I read. feel free to sue but freedom of speach pretty much proects me commenting. I admit I was wrong about how I posted about you after i reread the entire thread.

At this post I feel Lisa Sparx is honest and a victum and has had her career hurt substaintly over this.

and although this is little comfort considering the damage that has been done, I'm offering a $1000 credit with cybercat on my site to Lisa if she has galleries or banners or hard links she wants to advertise for her program or any other she wants to promote.

hit me up on icq to get that 105 713 197

Lisa I give you a LOT of credit for standing up to this like you did. Shows a lot regardig you character.

I'm sorry if my comments hurt you in any way.

also if you would like to do an ambush interview please let me know.

Thanks you for the public apology. I am glad you re-read the thread. I know the entire issue is way out of hand. No hard feelings even though my husband and I do run our own program :1orglaugh

I really want to put it all in the past.

Thanks again, and you are a stand up guy in my book. :)

pocketkangaroo 07-22-2007 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798327)
legally - against czasa it may be hard to sue. what he said at the start was pretty solid. against mike hawk - you have legal grounds to go after him and should. him posting your name was honestly SLIMY. against the hotel - there is a HUGE lawsuit there and you should sue them.

I would disagree. Her best legal chances are against the guy who made this thread and essentially called her a crook. The hotel clearly made a mistake, but that mistake didn't force others to defame her. The evidence was still very flimsy at the time.

You called her a thief and a crook. You said she shouldn't be trusted in the industry. Free speech means nothing if you called her something she is not and it hurt her reputation. Caza was probably the most careful in the thread, but his insinuations fueled the fire.

SureFire 07-22-2007 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lisa sparxxx (Post 12798746)
Thanks you for the public apology. I am glad you re-read the thread. I know the entire issue is way out of hand. No hard feelings even though my husband and I do run our own program :1orglaugh

I really want to put it all in the past.

Thanks again, and you are a stand up guy in my book. :)

Stand up guy? He is just covering his pathetic ass for his stupid comments on this thread in hopes that you won't name him a lawsuit (which I doubt you could afford to do).

Funny thing with all your hype, I doubt anyone will call you out that you/or your party tried to pull a fast one or not. Who really knows with all the twist and turns in this thread.

Have fun with your new found traffic and getting into the BROS club...maybe!


And congrats,
:upsidedow

tony286 07-22-2007 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire (Post 12798820)
Stand up guy? He is just covering his pathetic ass for his stupid comments on this thread in hopes that you won't name him a lawsuit (which I doubt you could afford to do).

Funny thing with all your hype, I doubt anyone will call you out that you/or your party tried to pull a fast one or not. Who really knows with all the twist and turns in this thread.

Have fun with your new found traffic and getting into the BROS club...maybe!


And congrats,
:upsidedow

I think he did it because he felt he was wrong.So what if he is named in the lawsuit he isnt in the usa.

SleazyDream 07-22-2007 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 12798798)
I would disagree. Her best legal chances are against the guy who made this thread and essentially called her a crook. The hotel clearly made a mistake, but that mistake didn't force others to defame her. The evidence was still very flimsy at the time.

You called her a thief and a crook. You said she shouldn't be trusted in the industry. Free speech means nothing if you called her something she is not and it hurt her reputation. Caza was probably the most careful in the thread, but his insinuations fueled the fire.

quote what i said and don't take out of context.

SleazyDream 07-22-2007 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 12798825)
I think he did it because he felt he was wrong.So what if he is named in the lawsuit he isnt in the usa.


i only comment on what was already posted in the thread. I'm legally allowed to my opinion, even if wrong.

adding new wrong information - that's liable. commenting on existing info - nothing wrong with it. sue away. I'll even come to the usa for that lawsuit just to laugh.

SleazyDream 07-22-2007 06:07 PM

what is the bros club? it's been mentioned a few times here and i don't know what it is

Dirty F 07-22-2007 06:12 PM

Sleazyimbecile, you are the biggest fucking imbecile i know off. You and JaneB. Goddamn, what a pathetic loser you are. Its almost funny.

MetaMan 07-22-2007 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798860)
what is the bros club? it's been mentioned a few times here and i don't know what it is

it is the group of you and your fat ass buddies who hang out at conventions, toast eachother for being idiots and then stick up for eachother no matter what.

you = bro

anyone else makes the same mistake as you and they would be sent to death.

be glad you are a bro, doesnt it feel good to be a self serving asshole? :thumbsup

tony286 07-22-2007 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798857)
i only comment on what was already posted in the thread. I'm legally allowed to my opinion, even if wrong.

adding new wrong information - that's liable. commenting on existing info - nothing wrong with it. sue away. I'll even come to the usa for that lawsuit just to laugh.

I saying you did the right thing,read slower before typing.

SleazyDream 07-22-2007 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 12798875)
it is the group of you and your fat ass buddies who hang out at conventions, toast eachother for being idiots and then stick up for eachother no matter what.

you = bro

anyone else makes the same mistake as you and they would be sent to death.

be glad you are a bro, doesnt it feel good to be a self serving asshole? :thumbsup


yes, yes it does :thumbsup

if that's the bro's club - i'm happy to be a member. the bro's club does cool stuff. :thumbsup

rhizome 07-22-2007 06:18 PM

I've had my problems with Lisa in the past. She may be a little naive when it comes to running an affiliate program but not once did I think she was capable of intentially screwing affiliates. I'd still trust her anyday over the has-beens and posers filling the first few pages with their repetitive rubbish.

SleazyDream 07-22-2007 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 12798881)
I saying you did the right thing,read slower before typing.

i know. i was was clarifing with your post for the other idiots. i didn't slam you.


read slower before responding :winkwink:

SureFire 07-22-2007 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 12798825)
I think he did it because he felt he was wrong.So what if he is named in the lawsuit he isnt in the usa.

Tony404, I am not a lawyer nor know the laws, but I believe one can name anyone in a lawsuit as long as a legal name and address is served, and one might have to deal with it, even if it is just paper work to clear ones name.

Please correct me, since I believe you are just a wondering post-whore trying to make friends here or there and making your quota with your sponsor. I feel sorry for you.

Now call me a troll:Oh crap

Dirty F 07-22-2007 06:19 PM

I would fucking kill myself if i had Sleazy's IQ. Then again stupid fucks like him seem to live happy as they are too dumb to think about things.

MetaMan 07-22-2007 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798892)
yes, yes it does :thumbsup

if that's the bro's club - i'm happy to be a member. the bro's club does cool stuff. :thumbsup

:thumbsup 13579

SleazyDream 07-22-2007 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12798873)
Sleazyimbecile, you are the biggest fucking imbecile i know off. You and JaneB. Goddamn, what a pathetic loser you are. Its almost funny.


smooooooooch.


like i said - being endorsed by a moron like this is like being endorsed by hitler :2 cents:

SleazyDream 07-22-2007 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12798899)
I would fucking kill myself if i had Sleazy's IQ. Then again stupid fucks like him seem to live happy as they are too dumb to think about things.

la la le la la la

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pocketkangaroo 07-22-2007 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798851)
quote what i said and don't take out of context.

Not sure how I could take written text here out of context.

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798851)
him posting this is pretty much solid proof Lisa did it.

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798851)
unless I hear more I'm under the impression Lisa is a theif.

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798851)
but honestly - unless she can PROVE now that she or someone in her party didn't do this, no one in online adult is really going to trust her again.

would you? I wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798851)
But honeslty, her reputation and fate rests in the hands of ycasa now posting an apology. saving that - she's labled GUILTY.

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798851)
If nothing more is posted by Ycasa, lisa's name is pretty much mud in the online adult community.

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798851)
Ycasa will win a defamation lawsuit with the docs he says he has with Lisa's name on them. He's on solid ground.

Defamation is making a false claim (stated or implied) that tarnishes the reputation of someone.

SleazyDream 07-22-2007 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SureFire (Post 12798898)
Tony404, I am not a lawyer nor know the laws, but I believe one can name anyone in a lawsuit as long as a legal name and address is served, and one might have to deal with it, even if it is just paper work to clear ones name.

Please correct me, since I believe you are just a wondering post-whore trying to make friends here or there and making your quota with your sponsor. I feel sorry for you.

Now call me a troll:Oh crap


troll :2 cents:

SleazyDream 07-22-2007 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 12798914)
Not sure how I could take written text here out of context.


Defamation is making a false claim (stated or implied) that tarnishes the reputation of someone.

every one of those statements rests on the FACT that czasa had her name appear on his credit card statement. and that fact still exisits.

and every one is based on info already brought to the thread.

tony286 07-22-2007 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SureFire (Post 12798898)
Tony404, I am not a lawyer nor know the laws, but I believe one can name anyone in a lawsuit as long as a legal name and address is served, and one might have to deal with it, even if it is just paper work to clear ones name.

Please correct me, since I believe you are just a wondering post-whore trying to make friends here or there and making your quota with your sponsor. I feel sorry for you.

Now call me a troll:Oh crap

You can name anyone you want in a lawsuit but if they arent in the us they dont have to answer it. Think Bit torrents,if that was the case they would of been sued back to the stone age. Dont think your troll , just some sorry guy who has nothing better to do in his life then focus on me and what I do.

SureFire 07-22-2007 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 12798938)
You can name anyone you want in a lawsuit but if they arent in the us they dont have to answer it. Think Bit torrents,if that was the case they would of been sued back to the stone age. Dont think your troll , just some sorry guy who has nothing better to do in his life then focus on me and what I do.

Thanks for the info, I actually did a lawsuit that involved one person that lived outside the US doing business in the USA and it all work out.

Sorry you think you know everything, I thought by now you would know that I am not a guy :upsidedow

tony286 07-22-2007 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SureFire (Post 12798960)
Thanks for the info, I actually did a lawsuit that involved one person that lived outside the US doing business in the USA and it all work out.

Sorry you think you know everything, I thought by now you would know that I am not a guy :upsidedow

Oh course because you say it,that means it happened. I never said I know everything and your a girl then your a very sorry woman if you have nothing better to do in your life then focus on what I do and dont do.

dark1313star 07-22-2007 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798378)
having people like will76, Scootermuze, or Dirty Franck back you 100% pretty much ends someone's credibility in their career.

as I read through the entire thread, these 3 posters were consistently 3 of the most rational, fair-minded of all

and Sleazy, after I read your lengthy apology, my immediate inclination was to congratulate you for seeing the light and doing the right thing... that inclination is tempered somewhat by your still-moronic subsequent postings

before you settle into your smug north-of-the-border secureness, I know for a fact that there are many kinds of pacts between the US and Canada in regards to fiscal responsibility of individual citizens... for instance, if you run up a bill to one country's revenue dept, the other country will collect from you on the first country's behalf... so I wouldn't be at all surprised if a Canadian civil court would collect on behalf of a US court's judgment

and I would LOVE to be present in court when you tell the judge "but, but, but... the evidence was all there on the board! and from bros! I shouldn't be held accountable for my libelous statements!"

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-22-2007 07:05 PM

Re-post of what I wrote in the "SleazyDream apology to Lisa" thread:

Although Sleazy started in the gutter with very negative comments and bold accusations directed towards Lisa, I commend him for ultimately deciding to take the high road, and apologizing to Lisa.

I've been told by mutual acquaintances that Scott (Sleazy) feels like he has to live up to his GFY board persona, so he frequently states things that they claim are out of character with the person he really is. I guess this is an example of that.

I believe in compassion and reconcilliation, and try to adhere to the principal of, "To err is human, to forgive is divine." If he is sincere (and not simply covering his ass legally), then I think what he has done is a good thing.

Let's see if Mike Hawk and Ycaza can similarily seek redemption by apologizing to Lisa (in the absence of anything that resembles hard proof that she did anything wrong).

ADG

nico-t 07-22-2007 07:18 PM

and what a surprise: Sleazy made an ass out of himself once again... Your ignorance has no boundries.

lisa sparks 07-22-2007 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12798926)
every one of those statements rests on the FACT that czasa had her name appear on his credit card statement. and that fact still exisits.

and every one is based on info already brought to the thread.

No my name never appeared on his credit card statement. The only way my name is tied into this is that the hotel allowed his card on my room. It could have been anybodys room at the hotel.

nico-t 07-22-2007 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 12799028)
I've been told by mutual acquaintances that Scott (Sleazy) feels like he has to live up to his GFY board persona, so he frequently states things that they claim are out of character with the person he really is. I guess this is an example of that.

a 'board persona' is the way people really are when they are not face to face with people. You can compare it with drunk people: People on boards and drunk people always show how they really are. The 'board persona' excuse is 100% bullshit.

lisa sparks 07-22-2007 07:25 PM

As a matter of fact the receipt Caza has is of my hotel bill, that the hard rock supplied him with. So much for any privacy at the hard rock. Yes my legal name and home address on the bill.


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