Caz said the hotel told him someone came to the front desk to pay off their room with his card. Anyone would have figured that if you find the person who was in that room you found the thief. That's the information available at the beginning of this thread. It now looks like they lied to Caz about a person coming to the front desk maybe to covering up their clerical error.

Look back at the beginning of the thread. Sleazy wasn't the only one ready to roast Lisa based on this information. He's just the only one to admit he was wrong and try to make good for his mistake.

you're missing the point though... regardless of what the available information makes someone think, the jump from thinking to publicly posting is what is very, very wrong... especially when it's about an accusation of a serious criminal offense

No I get it he jumped to conclusions like many others did. My point is why are people on Sleazy's back when he's the only one to correct himself and offer a Cybercat credit as a make good? At least he was man enough to do that. :2 cents:

An apology is an acknowledgment expressing regret or asking pardon for a fault or offense. Whatever the motivation, it is a step in the right direction.

Whether the person to whom the apology is directed accepts the apology is an altogether different issue.

The offended party may even accept the apology, yet still pursue legal action for the damages which they suffered.

ADG

btw sleazy didn't publicly post anything. He just commented on the information that was out there. When he realized it didn't all add up he quickly turned around and offered his apology.

I am sure it has nothing to do with him doing this ALL the time. :2 cents:

this in itself is the public posting of a unfounded accusation... what he and the bros considered to be evidence was, in point of fact, far short of any evidentiary standard... he didn't need to the the first in the thread to do it for it to be wrong and stupid... and legally actionable

I'm not disagreeing with you. He's not disagreeing with you. HE WAS WRONG. He admitted it and is trying to make good. Many people from page 1-5 haven't even admitted they were wrong but yet they are picking on Scott.

I said earlier that I wanted to congratulate him, but that desire was tempered by the information that he constantly does this without seeming to ever learn from his mistakes... and that even after the lengthy post apologizing, he continued to make moronic statements about what the "evidence" indicated, when it indicated no such thing to a sensible, thinking person unless their mode of thinking was weaned on soap operas and Jerry Springer

Yes and that is right also he is GIVING Lisa 1,000.00 FREE Advertising....not just a discount...opps thats in another thread about 16,000 reasons not to jump the gun :thumbsup

Agreed in full, BUT... "bro" is also reading a thread thoroughly and knowing when it's in the bro's best interest for you to tell him/them when he/they are in the wrong. :2 cents:

Both plausible and sensible. However, the bros in question haven't shown this same sense, have they?

I'm seeing a few self-purported professionals in this business having almost zero sense of damage control in them, much less a sense of fair play or even basic respect when it comes to knowing when and how to make amends, an apology, etc.

Are these people we really want to be in business with? I'm definitely questioning that lately.

Holy Fuck my eyes are bleeding from reading this through start to finish. :helpme

From what I can tell this thread was started with two agendas, to sway some contest about tits, and to get some drama of a shitty situation. Fucking lame, and juvenile. How do you people find the time to run your businesses?

- At the end of it all Lisa deserves a huge apology and legal compensation. Sleazy manned up when he got the whole story and this shit wasn't even his fault, why can't the perpetrators of this thread show the same character? Like him or hate him he's one of the only one's I've seen show that backbone.

- This thread should never be deleted an should serve as a reminder of the shit storm that a schoolyard pack mentality can cause, grow the fuck up, be a man, admit your mistakes and run your fucking businesses. (Also screenshots would be a good idea for the legal action that should be taking place.)

- Someone posted her actual name here to top it all off, on a public forum where an industry is already having privacy nightmares. What a colossal fucking cum rag. I can't stress that enough. :321GFY

ok, after reading the entire thread I'd like to demand a full apology from everyone who came in here posting stupid crap, wasting my valuable board surfing time. At least 75% of the posts needn't have been made, and you all know who you are.

The conclusions I have come to since reading this in full are;

1) I will never post about something I feel until I have incontrovertible proof.
2) It is with much sadness that I find out iAlien is still alive, and just as much of a moron as ever
3) GFY is as confounding and drama riddled as ever
4) My program offers the best ROI for webmasters :)
5) I have too much time on my hands and need to knuckle down and get some work done today
6) Some people on this board are in dire need of grammar and spelling lessons
7) GFY Trolls are the lowest form of life in the food chain

Really? Using a stolen credit card to make a payment for a hotel room booked under your real name is similar to commit a bank raid and ask the clerk to transfer the money to your bank account.

"a CUNT who decided to steal a wallet from my buddy - Caza", that´s how the thread started. That´s an outrageously accusation based on a simple hotel bill.
This bill only proves one thing: the hotel has charged the credit card for the room which was booked by the person mentioned on the bill. Everything else is an assumption and can not be backed up by this billing form.

Admitting having been wrong honours him for sure.:thumbsup

The lesson to be learned may be that a posting on GFY doesn´t prove anything, even if it comes from a person most large players in adult do know.

And a story doesn´t become more plausible if all the people in adult who earn $10 million or more per year know the person who has posted.

Innocent until proven guilty.:2 cents:

You don't have to congratulate him. No one has to. If they choose too great. If not I don't think he's going to lose sleep over it.

It really doesn't matter if he puts his foot in his mouth a lot. In this case he admit he was wrong and manned up to it. That's more than anyone else did so far so he doesn't deserve the lion's share of bashing here. Others have yet to even apologize to Lisa.

I second that. He is the only one who admitted having been wrong and apologized. So there is no reason to attack him.

I'm not defending the misinformation that was brought to the boards. I'm saying that based on the misinformation that was brought to the boards I understand why people jumped to conclusions. Never have I said they were right.

Facts: Caz lost a wallet. He then hears from the hotel that someone with HIS card used it to pay for THEIR room.

Based on that alone it looks like you can find out who the dumb thief is.

I agree. But based on this poor information it wasn´t the best choice to open a thread on gfy and put somebody in the pillory.

What a Long Strange Trip its Been

and as I said earlier... It could have probably all been resolved immediately if Caz would have faxed his receipt and Lisa's receipt (showing she paid in full with her card) to the hotel accounting and demanding an explanation...

Actually Lisa could do the same thing just to get a response from the hotel..

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ADG

My lawyer talked to the Hard Rock they are only dealing with him at this point.

Kewl... Glad to hear.. Should be interesting to read his findings.. :)

I icq'ed you by the way...

Thanks for the info Scooter.....it may help

Noooo problem...

oyyyyyyyyy what a twisted thread

One of those 'tangled web' things.. :)

a BIGGGGGGGGGGg fiasco unfortunately :(:(:( shame cause the damage to Lisa's name was done and such and you cant take that back

burnnnnnnnn,hehehe

I have a feeling this damage is temporary....

They may think they took her to her knees, but they'll find out they just brought her to her feet...

Gonna be interesting... :)

I agree. She's coming out smelling like roses.

Me thinks the best is yet to come..

still no word on those tapes ??

HardRock is setting up a special room for all good Bro's to review security tapes of there choice at a special rate.

sorry I've been away...any news? was it the butler?

i'm going to get slammed for saying this - but fact is lisa KNOWS how to handle being on her knees :thumbsup

Not as long as you post Click Here PROOF

These Tapes to be viewed by those who act 18 years and older :thumbsup

Ok.. gotta admit.. that was a good one.. :)

Without trying to sound all mysterious, as I don't make private conversations public, the tapes shouldn't be an issue.

Hopefully it will all be put to rest today...

That's a myth even in real world courtrooms, and especially in the court of public opinion.

In light of that I see no reason to expect it here.


it's a nice thought though.


Would be nice if at least one so-called professional were to actually make it a reality.

Just once.