We Got Screwed: Scammer Alert "Mark Hartley - Page 8 - GoFuckYourself.com

natas · 07-21-2007, 05:05 PM

the icq logs on page 3 are........disturbing

BoyAlley · 07-21-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost

Slightly surprised JaneB hasn't been in here yet.

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Originally Posted by commonsense

Her name hasn't been said out loud 3 times. She's like the candyman or bettlejuice

omg

georgeyw · 07-21-2007, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Assuming those are real logs, which I have no reason to believe they are not:

Does Sarah think she's in teh fucking mafia or what?

Talk about unprofessional.

Who the fuck would want to do business with THAT?!?!

Lawds Mercy!

Totally agree boyalley

Just for the record - the following had me in fits of laughter

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Sarah - GTS ‎(1.33):
YOU owe us the money
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.33):
because all sales went to YOU
TheSettler ‎(1.33):
me?!?!?!?!!?
TheSettler ‎(1.33):
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.33):
yup
TheSettler ‎(1.33):
you msut be using HEAVY DRUGS
Sarah - GTS ‎(1.33):
do you know DrinkingHard?
TheSettler ‎(1.34):
no

justsexxx · 07-21-2007, 05:35 PM

Seriously, if someone would contact me like they did, I would not give information either. Why not explain the whole situation, email the info, and inform the authorities. But no, post crap on GFY...Oh my god how stupid are they

SomeCreep · 07-21-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i dont think so , i think it was a perfectly normal assumption for the average webmaster to think tsm had something to do with it

once again the moral of the story is do as much fact checking as you can before you fly off the handle.

I agree, but I am very surprised at how Mark handled this situation. He's knows how serious and damaging these defamatory threads are to Teenmegacash.com and he still proceeded to make them, even going so far as to contact CCBill to have Teenmegacash.com shut down, when he still hadn't fully investigated the situation. As WiredGuy mentioned, it looks like the scammer redirected the links, so Teenmegacash could take the fall. Teenmegacash has server stats which show there was no spike in traffic to their sites, which seems to substantiate the hypothesis that the scammer did in fact switch links.

I hope Mark is right about Teenmegacash.com for his sake, because otherwise, it seems to me his statements could have serious libel repercussions.

Ron2k1 · 07-21-2007, 05:57 PM

GTS WILL NEVER ADMINT THEIR FAULT

Will they?

Ron2k1 · 07-21-2007, 05:58 PM

Is DH really not gonna reply here anymore?

Ron2k1 · 07-21-2007, 06:03 PM

Btw where is Sarah the whore?

will76 · 07-21-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF

I don't know but there is plenty of money to be made on the internet without scamming someone. So there is no excuse for not delivering on what you sell or not paying for what you buy.

Yeah plenty money to be made without stealling traffic either

p1mpdogg · 07-21-2007, 06:23 PM

bow, chikka wow wow

love this commercial

Dennis69 · 07-21-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

This is the last post I am going to make in this thread, because obv it has become a flame gts/mark thread at this point and is just becoming ridiculous.

As mentioned before if we're in the wrong we will re-tract our statement and apologize.

DH

And what the fuck did you really expect by not doing your homework before dragging this guys program through the mud? You really crack me up!

SureFire · 07-21-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

I agree, but I am very surprised at how Mark handled this situation. He's knows how serious and damaging these defamatory threads are to Teenmegacash.com and he still proceeded to make them, even going so far as to contact CCBill to have Teenmegacash.com shut down, when he still hadn't fully investigated the situation. As WiredGuy mentioned, it looks like the scammer redirected the links, so Teenmegacash could take the fall. Teenmegacash has server stats which show there was no spike in traffic to their sites, which seems to substantiate the hypothesis that the scammer did in fact switch links.

I hope Mark is right about Teenmegacash.com for his sake, because otherwise, it seems to me his statements could have serious libel repercussions.

He doesn't care. Mark has a history to call people out on this board and other ones for no wrong doings (just assumptions) and his buddies (or BROS) don't mind so no loss in income for him but no gain.

My guess is that he will stay away for awhile or just send some gifts to his BROS, who will post how great he is

Or he will just blame it on drinking....I believe I read a few of those posts throughout the years of being member here

Juicy D. Links · 07-21-2007, 06:37 PM

i need a assistant to keep me briefed on all drama here

Martin3 · 07-21-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

i need a assistant to keep me briefed on all drama here

why isn't this on bromaster yet juicy?

will76 · 07-21-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnus

Dam note to self do not do business GTS.

Gary

Added to my shit list right next to AFF and Sex Search where they belong.

is it me or does AFF, DH, and Sleazy all fit together well like the 3 stooges.

RAM · 07-21-2007, 06:58 PM

wow this is a great read

will76 · 07-21-2007, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

This is the last post I am going to make in this thread, because obv it has become a flame gts/mark thread at this point and is just becoming ridiculous.

As mentioned before if we're in the wrong we will re-tract our statement and apologize.

DH

Probably the smartest thing you could do would be to stop posting, but I am betting $20 that you wont. You will post in this thread again. You can't help yourself and you have a nack for digging your hole deeper.

Here is a recap.

GTS sells $16,000 worth of ads and gets ripped off but doesn't find out from the credit card company that the card is bad until all the traffic is delivered.

So they go to the url they sent traffic to and try to contact the owner of the site. That leads to dead ends.

They then try to follow the money to see what program the person was using. They contact the owner of that program and ask him for help. Regardless if he was rude or if they were rude the person still provides documentation showing he has no affiliate by that name, and his traffic or sales did not increase any across the board.

DH still wants his money back and since he fucked up and allowed himself to be scammed, and he can't track down the person who actually did this to him, then someone has to pay DH back, so he goes after this program owner.

DH tries to get his ccbill account closed, he threatens to try to get his program blacklisted across the net, and he threatens to "ruin" the guy. He makes a thread accussing his program of stealing $16,000 from GTS.

I would sware it sounds like Mark is a nnob. Let's use our heads for one second here. If someone used a stolen credit card and received all of the traffic from you before you noticed the card was stolen they would then go update the pages they use to show a different program so they could cover their tracks. Knowing they were scaming you, do you think they would leave a fucking trail of bread crumbs for you to follow ?

The program owner is under no obligation to even talk to you, but did try to help and showed you he had no increase of traffic, something supported by alexa (that's alexa.com incase you never heard of it before, if you need help using it let me know.)

So the program owner doesn't tell you what you want to hear (which was obviously nothing short of "ok I will give you $16,000 to leave me alone) so you proceed to try to "ruin" him. You tell people the program owner stole $16,000 from you which is absolutely ridiculous.

Now that 99 out of 100 people are telling you that you are way off base and have handled this very wrong you say " I will apoligize if he had nothing to do with it". WTF, you jump to conclusions, launch a smear campaign against the guy based on your own stupidity, and you make a huge fuck up and you will just apologize...

that is so bro, i mean errr. big of you.

In the future you might want to contact your attorney or the nearest person over 10 years old for advice before proceed to try to destroy someone. You might want to have a little more concrete proof then " i think so" before fucking with someone's business. I can only think you would expect the same if someone was doing it to you.

will76 · 07-21-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tmc_producer

I don't know hwo do you say that in english. But my arms falled on teh ground.?!

Thats not english my friend, that is teh boy alley language.

Gnus · 07-21-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

Added to my shit list right next to AFF and Sex Search where they belong.

is it me or does AFF, DH, and Sleazy all fit together well like the 3 stooges.

Along with Mr Sexbankroll don't forget.

Gary

RAM · 07-21-2007, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

Probably the smartest thing you could do would be to stop posting, but I am betting $20 that you wont. You will post in this thread again. You can't help yourself and you have a nack for digging your hole deeper.

Here is a recap.

GTS sells $16,000 worth of ads and gets ripped off but doesn't find out from the credit card company that the card is bad until all the traffic is delivered.

So they go to the url they sent traffic to and try to contact the owner of the site. That leads to dead ends.

They then try to follow the money to see what program the person was using. They contact the owner of that program and ask him for help. Regardless if he was rude or if they were rude the person still provides documentation showing he has no affiliate by that name, and his traffic or sales did not increase any across the board.

DH still wants his money back and since he fucked up and allowed himself to be scammed, and he can't track down the person who actually did this to him, then someone has to pay DH back, so he goes after this program owner.

DH tries to get his ccbill account closed, he threatens to try to get his program blacklisted across the net, and he threatens to "ruin" the guy. He makes a thread accussing his program of stealing $16,000 from GTS.

I would sware it sounds like Mark is a nnob. Let's use our heads for one second here. If someone used a stolen credit card and received all of the traffic from you before you noticed the card was stolen they would then go update the pages they use to show a different program so they could cover their tracks. Knowing they were scaming you, do you think they would leave a fucking trail of bread crumbs for you to follow ?

The program owner is under no obligation to even talk to you, but did try to help and showed you he had no increase of traffic, something supported by alexa (that's alexa.com incase you never heard of it before, if you need help using it let me know.)

So the program owner doesn't tell you what you want to hear (which was obviously nothing short of "ok I will give you $16,000 to leave me alone) so you proceed to try to "ruin" him. You tell people the program owner stole $16,000 from you which is absolutely ridiculous.

Now that 99 out of 100 people are telling you that you are way off base and have handled this very wrong you say " I will apoligize if he had nothing to do with it". WTF, you jump to conclusions, launch a smear campaign against the guy based on your own stupidity, and you make a huge fuck up and you will just apologize...

that is so bro, i mean errr. big of you.

In the future you might want to contact your attorney or the nearest person over 10 years old for advice before proceed to try to destroy someone. You might want to have a little more concrete proof then " i think so" before fucking with someone's business. I can only think you would expect the same if someone was doing it to you.

Will is a machine

RAM · 07-21-2007, 07:16 PM

I gotta tell ya between this thread and the 5000 ways to lose your wallet - i'm fuckin hooked.

will76 · 07-21-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

58 useless posts in one day . . . . you are on a roll

OH Pot, where is the kettle.

will76 · 07-21-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RAM

I gotta tell ya between this thread and the 5000 ways to lose your wallet - i'm fuckin hooked.

Yeap, GFY is great source to read on how NOT TO DO BUSINESS.

Unbelievable people can jump to conclusions and try to ruin other people with out having REAL proof.

testpie · 07-21-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsamm

incase u missed the other thread

On a serious note though, those ICQ logs of Sarah and DrinkingHARDEST rank amongst the least professional correspondance I've ever seen. I know lots of you are about a billion times more successful than me, and seemingly many people don't give two shits about professionalism, but if I were buying from GTS i think I'd seriously consider looking for a broker with a more professional attitude, because it seems if the shit hits the fan, the dynamic husband and wife duo will be on your ass faster than if you'd dropped the bar in your local prison.

That said, I realise many of you won't read this nor change your minds based on the apparent lack of professionalism of a company, but I'd still like to hold some hope that at least a few people in this industry still value honour and integrity over money - because in the end those bucks will only be taken away from you anyway.

SuzzyQ · 07-21-2007, 07:30 PM

I have read through this thread for the last hour and a half and I have a few observations.

When I bought gallery sport through GTS, I was required to fax GTS, a copy of my drivers? license as well as a copy of the credit card I would be using to purchase the gallery spots. That was the policy, or so they said. Now, keep this in mind as you read through my observations.

1) If GTS, and it appears that they did, allow someone to buy 15K worth of traffic without a copy of the drivers? license and credit card used, then it?s their own fault they got ripped off.

2) If someone uses a credit card at any store (Wal-Mart, Best Buy, ect), to purchase 15k worth of goods, BIG, GIANT flags will go off in the persons head at the checkout line. They will call their manager and he will be calling the credit card company. If GTS, again, it appears that they did, took the credit card and NEVER checked it to be stolen, it?s their own fault.

3) When I bought my gallery spots from GTS, I went on vacation while the galleries were running. At the time, GTS was the ones who told me that my hosting company (at the time and NO it was NOT webair), decided to move my sites to another server. In the process of the move, a bunch of galleries got ?lost? and the traffic was redirected to my main page thanks to htaccess. GTS told me that the galleries were being redirected. I was on a cruse in Alaska at the time.

4) Apparently, now a day, GTS no longer monitors the galleries that they are sending traffic to.

5) When TMC sent GTS the server logs (and I assume he did since I have no reason to doubt him), The server logs would have shown a huge jump in traffic on the days that GTS was sending traffic to the galleries in question. Since the logs, (Again, I have no reason to doubt TMC) showed no jump in traffic. That to me, means the galleries were changed and the traffic did not go to TMC.

As far as I am concerned is GTS got screwed and it was their own fault. They took a 15k charge and never called the credit card company to see if the card was stolen.

IF, GTS was following the same policy I went through to buy gallery spots (fax a copy of my DL and CC), then they would be sitting on some evidence the FBI wants. Yea. I know. You can use Photoshop to make custom shit. Still, the point being?.

Im assuming that the person who used the card was a new customer to GTS. Why they did not call the credit card compant for 15k of charges is beyond me.

What I have learned is not to do any future business with GTS. When its all said and done, TMC could own GTS and a few of homes in this slanderfest. I was about to buy $1000 worth of gallery spots through them in Sept. Not any more.

I also noticed that the usual "bro's" have kept away from this thread. That tells you something about them.

My free observations.... No back to mindless threads...

candyflip · 07-21-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzzyQ

I have read through this thread for the last hour and a half and I have a few observations.

When I bought gallery sport through GTS, I was required to fax GTS, a copy of my drivers? license as well as a copy of the credit card I would be using to purchase the gallery spots. That was the policy, or so they said. Now, keep this in mind as you read through my observations.

1) If GTS, and it appears that they did, allow someone to buy 15K worth of traffic without a copy of the drivers? license and credit card used, then it?s their own fault they got ripped off.

2) If someone uses a credit card at any store (Wal-Mart, Best Buy, ect), to purchase 15k worth of goods, BIG, GIANT flags will go off in the persons head at the checkout line. They will call their manager and he will be calling the credit card company. If GTS, again, it appears that they did, took the credit card and NEVER checked it to be stolen, it?s their own fault.

3) When I bought my gallery spots from GTS, I went on vacation while the galleries were running. At the time, GTS was the ones who told me that my hosting company (at the time and NO it was NOT webair), decided to move my sites to another server. In the process of the move, a bunch of galleries got ?lost? and the traffic was redirected to my main page thanks to htaccess. GTS told me that the galleries were being redirected. I was on a cruse in Alaska at the time.

4) Apparently, now a day, GTS no longer monitors the galleries that they are sending traffic to.

5) When TMC sent GTS the server logs (and I assume he did since I have no reason to doubt him), The server logs would have shown a huge jump in traffic on the days that GTS was sending traffic to the galleries in question. Since the logs, (Again, I have no reason to doubt TMC) showed no jump in traffic. That to me, means the galleries were changed and the traffic did not go to TMC.

As far as I am concerned is GTS got screwed and it was their own fault. They took a 15k charge and never called the credit card company to see if the card was stolen.

IF, GTS was following the same policy I went through to buy gallery spots (fax a copy of my DL and CC), then they would be sitting on some evidence the FBI wants. Yea. I know. You can use Photoshop to make custom shit. Still, the point being?.

Im assuming that the person who used the card was a new customer to GTS. Why they did not call the credit card compant for 15k of charges is beyond me.

What I have learned is not to do any future business with GTS. When its all said and done, TMC could own GTS and a few of homes in this slanderfest. I was about to buy $1000 worth of gallery spots through them in Sept. Not any more.

I also noticed that the usual "bro's" have kept away from this thread. That tells you something about them.

My free observations.... No back to mindless threads...

Karma is a bitch.

SuzzyQ · 07-21-2007, 07:37 PM

PS. GTS took a 15k charge from someone using a gmail account?. You gotta be kidding?. GTS fucked themselves and slandered TMC. Looks like the owner of TMC will be owning a few homes in Canada.

Dirty F · 07-21-2007, 07:55 PM

Skidmark, in 1 day you lost more business and burnt more bridges than i did in my whole online carreer. Thats amazing knowing you are always the one crying about me burning bridges.

This thread itself is amazing. Once again i doubt ive seen anything like it EVER on gfy.

And hes still not here to apologize. How far can a head fit up someones ass. Really, you crossed the border and beyond.

candyflip · 07-21-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Skidmark, in 1 day you lost more business and burnt more bridges than i did in my whole online carreer. Thats amazing knowing you are always the one crying about me burning bridges.

This thread itself is amazing. Once again i doubt ive seen anything like it EVER on gfy.

And hes still not here to apologize. How far can a head fit up someones ass. Really, you crossed the border and beyond.

I hope it never ends. You liked that new nick I made up eh?

BAKO · 07-21-2007, 08:08 PM

Mad Views

commonsense · 07-21-2007, 08:12 PM

Wonder if GTS will still pay their customers they sold the spots for, or ask for some sort of credit/forbearance?

Gnus · 07-21-2007, 09:05 PM

With the evidence TMC has he could own GTS if he took this to court. Especially with that ICQ log of his and this thread.

Gary

commonsense · 07-21-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnus

With the evidence TMC has he could own GTS if he took this to court. Especially with that ICQ log of his and this thread.

Gary

Has anyone been sued for a GFY thread?

And check my sig ;)

jact · 07-21-2007, 09:21 PM

Seems I missed all the fun while in California.

Gnus · 07-21-2007, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense

Has anyone been sued for a GFY thread?

And check my sig ;)

Couldn't tell ya on that one.

Gary

SuzzyQ · 07-21-2007, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense

Has anyone been sued for a GFY thread?

We may soon find out

Tempest · 07-21-2007, 10:12 PM

Only thing I learned from this thread was that it's relatively easy to rip of GTS since they're morons... Already knew DH was a slime ball.

JD · 07-21-2007, 10:37 PM

wowowowowow

Daruma · 07-21-2007, 10:42 PM

so if I call DH's wife a cunt - he's going to try to ban me also?

moron..

07-21-2007, 10:57 PM

I just peaked at this thread and it turns out DH owned himself?

Awesome!

BoyAlley · 07-21-2007, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equinox

I just peaked at this thread and it turns out DH owned himself?

Awesome!

LAWDS MERCY!

starpimps · 07-21-2007, 11:04 PM

ok dammit...i caved in and read all 8 pages

gfy brings my productivity to -110%

Gerco · 07-22-2007, 12:28 AM

Stupidest fucking thread I have ever read. I actually really hope the lawyers are brought in on this. Really looks like a slam dunk for TMC. From what I have read.. and I read it all, including the other boards... This DH needs to learn a hard lesson. There really needs to be more than just an apology here, but some major compensation. Trying to "ruin" someone without real proof... how fucking sad and wrong. The real sad thing is that the damage has already been done, cause most people are never going to make it past page 1 and are going to think the TMC is a thief. In all the years of reading and posting here, this is the single most fucked up thing I think I have ever seen.

Congrats.

quiet · 07-22-2007, 12:31 AM

woah....

candyflip · 07-22-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by quiet

woah....

Yeah...no shit.

Secksy · 07-22-2007, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerco

Stupidest fucking thread I have ever read. I actually really hope the lawyers are brought in on this. Really looks like a slam dunk for TMC. From what I have read.. and I read it all, including the other boards... This DH needs to learn a hard lesson. There really needs to be more than just an apology here, but some major compensation. Trying to "ruin" someone without real proof... how fucking sad and wrong. The real sad thing is that the damage has already been done, cause most people are never going to make it past page 1 and are going to think the TMC is a thief. In all the years of reading and posting here, this is the single most fucked up thing I think I have ever seen.

Congrats.

I agree. This guy Mark is a clownus maximus. I wish this was me that was gettingsmeared. I would own his wife too by the time I was done with him. Now is the perfect time for somebody to open up shop and take all of his business away. Just point some of his clients to threads like these and I am sure they would jump ship in a New York minute

Daruma · 07-22-2007, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Yeah...no shit.

hey - can you say something bad about my wife - and I'll try to get you banned?

candyflip · 07-22-2007, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Daruma

hey - can you say something bad about my wife - and I'll try to get you banned?

I can't think of a bad thing to say about her. Her blowjobs kick too much ass.

Daruma · 07-22-2007, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

I can't think of a bad thing to say about her. Her blowjobs kick too much ass.

I was wondering where the fuck she was last night...

Secksy · 07-22-2007, 12:45 AM

400............

07-21-2007, 05:35 PM	#354
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Seriously, if someone would contact me like they did, I would not give information either. Why not explain the whole situation, email the info, and inform the authorities. But no, post crap on GFY...Oh my god how stupid are they __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

07-21-2007, 06:23 PM	#360
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07-21-2007, 06:58 PM	#366
RAM They're all hookers, but mom! Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Right now Shelby Twp MI Posts: 7,047	wow this is a great read __________________ RAM Fucking Machines are like CASH MACHINES See RAM on these quality sites!! Rightofftheboat.com EuroBrideTryouts.com

07-21-2007, 07:16 PM	#371
RAM They're all hookers, but mom! Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Right now Shelby Twp MI Posts: 7,047	I gotta tell ya between this thread and the 5000 ways to lose your wallet - i'm fuckin hooked. __________________ RAM Fucking Machines are like CASH MACHINES See RAM on these quality sites!! Rightofftheboat.com EuroBrideTryouts.com

07-21-2007, 08:08 PM	#380
BAKO Etology.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hollywood CA Posts: 18,377	Mad Views __________________ http://DatingNetwork.com Telegram: @bakokaye

07-21-2007, 05:05 PM	#351
natas Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: : unknown Posts: 3,375	the icq logs on page 3 are........disturbing

07-21-2007, 05:57 PM	#356
Ron2k1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,573	GTS WILL NEVER ADMINT THEIR FAULT Will they?

07-21-2007, 05:58 PM	#357
Ron2k1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,573	Is DH really not gonna reply here anymore?

07-21-2007, 06:03 PM	#358
Ron2k1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,573	Btw where is Sarah the whore?

07-21-2007, 06:37 PM	#363
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	i need a assistant to keep me briefed on all drama here

07-21-2007, 07:30 PM	#375
SuzzyQ Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Along the shore. Posts: 1,557	I have read through this thread for the last hour and a half and I have a few observations. When I bought gallery sport through GTS, I was required to fax GTS, a copy of my drivers? license as well as a copy of the credit card I would be using to purchase the gallery spots. That was the policy, or so they said. Now, keep this in mind as you read through my observations. 1) If GTS, and it appears that they did, allow someone to buy 15K worth of traffic without a copy of the drivers? license and credit card used, then it?s their own fault they got ripped off. 2) If someone uses a credit card at any store (Wal-Mart, Best Buy, ect), to purchase 15k worth of goods, BIG, GIANT flags will go off in the persons head at the checkout line. They will call their manager and he will be calling the credit card company. If GTS, again, it appears that they did, took the credit card and NEVER checked it to be stolen, it?s their own fault. 3) When I bought my gallery spots from GTS, I went on vacation while the galleries were running. At the time, GTS was the ones who told me that my hosting company (at the time and NO it was NOT webair), decided to move my sites to another server. In the process of the move, a bunch of galleries got ?lost? and the traffic was redirected to my main page thanks to htaccess. GTS told me that the galleries were being redirected. I was on a cruse in Alaska at the time. 4) Apparently, now a day, GTS no longer monitors the galleries that they are sending traffic to. 5) When TMC sent GTS the server logs (and I assume he did since I have no reason to doubt him), The server logs would have shown a huge jump in traffic on the days that GTS was sending traffic to the galleries in question. Since the logs, (Again, I have no reason to doubt TMC) showed no jump in traffic. That to me, means the galleries were changed and the traffic did not go to TMC. As far as I am concerned is GTS got screwed and it was their own fault. They took a 15k charge and never called the credit card company to see if the card was stolen. IF, GTS was following the same policy I went through to buy gallery spots (fax a copy of my DL and CC), then they would be sitting on some evidence the FBI wants. Yea. I know. You can use Photoshop to make custom shit. Still, the point being?. Im assuming that the person who used the card was a new customer to GTS. Why they did not call the credit card compant for 15k of charges is beyond me. What I have learned is not to do any future business with GTS. When its all said and done, TMC could own GTS and a few of homes in this slanderfest. I was about to buy $1000 worth of gallery spots through them in Sept. Not any more. I also noticed that the usual "bro's" have kept away from this thread. That tells you something about them. My free observations.... No back to mindless threads...

07-21-2007, 07:37 PM	#377
SuzzyQ Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Along the shore. Posts: 1,557	PS. GTS took a 15k charge from someone using a gmail account?. You gotta be kidding?. GTS fucked themselves and slandered TMC. Looks like the owner of TMC will be owning a few homes in Canada.

07-21-2007, 07:55 PM	#378
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Skidmark, in 1 day you lost more business and burnt more bridges than i did in my whole online carreer. Thats amazing knowing you are always the one crying about me burning bridges. This thread itself is amazing. Once again i doubt ive seen anything like it EVER on gfy. And hes still not here to apologize. How far can a head fit up someones ass. Really, you crossed the border and beyond.

07-21-2007, 08:12 PM	#381
commonsense So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,790	Wonder if GTS will still pay their customers they sold the spots for, or ask for some sort of credit/forbearance?

07-21-2007, 09:05 PM	#382
Gnus Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 577	With the evidence TMC has he could own GTS if he took this to court. Especially with that ICQ log of his and this thread. Gary __________________ ICQ -73665782 Domains for sale - milfwatch.com $2k, pornnut.com $500, assforu.com $2K, xxxratedonly.com $1K

07-21-2007, 09:21 PM	#384
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	Seems I missed all the fun while in California. __________________ Free agent

07-21-2007, 10:12 PM	#387
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	Only thing I learned from this thread was that it's relatively easy to rip of GTS since they're morons... Already knew DH was a slime ball.

07-21-2007, 10:37 PM	#388
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	wowowowowow

07-21-2007, 10:42 PM	#389
Daruma Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: PandaLand™ Posts: 3,494	so if I call DH's wife a cunt - he's going to try to ban me also? moron.. __________________ RIP TD

07-21-2007, 10:57 PM	#390
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	I just peaked at this thread and it turns out DH owned himself? Awesome!

07-21-2007, 11:04 PM	#392
starpimps Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: internets Posts: 6,954	ok dammit...i caved in and read all 8 pages gfy brings my productivity to -110% __________________ Teen Porn Models / Solo Girls

07-22-2007, 12:28 AM	#393
Gerco Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,052	Stupidest fucking thread I have ever read. I actually really hope the lawyers are brought in on this. Really looks like a slam dunk for TMC. From what I have read.. and I read it all, including the other boards... This DH needs to learn a hard lesson. There really needs to be more than just an apology here, but some major compensation. Trying to "ruin" someone without real proof... how fucking sad and wrong. The real sad thing is that the damage has already been done, cause most people are never going to make it past page 1 and are going to think the TMC is a thief. In all the years of reading and posting here, this is the single most fucked up thing I think I have ever seen. Congrats. __________________ Http://www.extremehole.com ** CLOSED ** 400 HOURS of exclusive custom extreme content, already on external HD in Raw DV ready to encode. over 150,000 exclusive images and more.

07-22-2007, 12:31 AM	#394
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	woah....

07-22-2007, 12:45 AM	#400
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