Spunky from SpunkyCash.com - a fair warning - GoFuckYourself.com

opulence · 08-25-2007, 06:08 PM

--- Cliffs at the bottom of the post---

About a year and a half ago I tried to launch a solo girl paysite, www.playwithparis.com - before doing so Spunky had an interest in the model and offered to pay me for her instead of me making the site.

I declined, however after launching and running the site for a couple months I decided to sell the site to him.

The deal was to receive 10k upfront and another 10k as it is accumulated from the site's revenue at a rate of 50%.

Spunky was nice enough when he flew Paris and I to his place to do the deal, and trusted me staying there for a couple of days, pretty much unattended, even though we were pretty much strangers. I of course obliged by not causing any problems as a guest of his home.

Everything went well there and I went home with my 10k.

It is now a year and a half later and I still have not received 8 of the additional 10k that he was supposed to send me. My mistake for making a kind of deal like this, even though we have a contract written and signed, and it's been nothing but a pain trying to contact Spunky about it. He ignores me and basically avoided the situation for over a year straight.

I stopped bugging him for awhile, but it's now been a year and a half and I still haven't received anything. Also - I sold the website to Spunky with Paris in mind because since the site wasn't doing so great when I was running it, I thought allowing her to work with someone more professional and established would be a better experience for her. Not the case - the site ended up making less and Spunky has also been extremely shifty in the way that he pays (or lack of payment) Paris.

So just a warning to anyone getting started, or anyone that is a little too trustworthy, don't make the same stupid mistake I did of dealing with a shady dude like Spunky unless you get everything you're asking for upfront.

Also, if anyone has any advice of what I could do about this I'd be glad to hear it - I still have the original contract we both signed a year and a half ago.

--- Cliffs ---

I sold www.playwithparis.com to Spunky over a year and a half ago, and he didn't pay me 8k of what he owes me for it, he avoids me and ignores me and is all around a shady individual that you shouldn't deal with if you don't have to.

Spunky · 08-25-2007, 06:10 PM

I blame it on the reefer

aico · 08-25-2007, 06:11 PM

Sucks, but maybe the site hasn't made 20k to pay you the remaining 10k?

opulence · 08-25-2007, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky

I blame it on the reefer

Particularly specified Spunky from SpunkyCash as I was aware of someone else using the username Spunky on GFY.

TeenCat · 08-25-2007, 06:11 PM

cheese spot ... sorry to hear man i wish you to get your things solved

opulence · 08-25-2007, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

Sucks, but maybe the site hasn't made 20k to pay you the remaining 10k?

Not very likely that it didn't even make 20k (to give me 50%, 10k) in one in ahalf years under his program - but even if that were the case he would still be obliged to pay me 50% of what it has made, which is well over the additional 2k I received.

Big_D · 08-25-2007, 06:26 PM

damn dude, hope it all works out for ya

selena · 08-25-2007, 06:31 PM

I remember when that site went live. I had some galleries out, then the it sold, and the links went dead. I never picked up promoting it again.

tony286 · 08-25-2007, 06:31 PM

You should always get the money up front and your done. My friend sold his restaurant that way and within 2 yrs he had it back.

Rochard · 08-25-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by selena

I remember when that site went live. I had some galleries out, then the it sold, and the links went dead. I never picked up promoting it again.

So you saying the guy who claims to be getting screwed really screwed you and lots of others.... Typical.

aico · 08-25-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

So you saying the guy who claims to be getting screwed really screwed you and lots of others.... Typical.

It's the buyers responsibility to make sure the old links work or don't work.

opulence · 08-25-2007, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

So you saying the guy who claims to be getting screwed really screwed you and lots of others.... Typical.

EdgeXXX · 08-25-2007, 07:40 PM

Do you know his nick on GFY?

opulence · 08-25-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

Do you know his nick on GFY?

Not sure I think it might be SpunkyCash...

Fletch XXX · 08-25-2007, 07:43 PM

drama drama

CurrentlySober · 08-25-2007, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

You should always get the money up front and your done. My friend sold his restaurant that way and within 2 yrs he had it back.

Sorry, but he had WHAT back?

The money, or the restaurant?

jscott · 08-25-2007, 07:48 PM

username is spunky99 i'm pretty sure, i learned also that icq isnt the best way of contacting, leave him messages in all forms, if still no reply from either then assume you're being avoided

(btw, sorry if i missed something, i only read the "cliff notes"

)

Spunky · 08-25-2007, 07:53 PM

It is spunky99..I know because many people icq me thinking I'm him for some reason

crockett · 08-25-2007, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

Sucks, but maybe the site hasn't made 20k to pay you the remaining 10k?

Is that this guys fault?

Kinky John · 08-25-2007, 08:05 PM

got burned for about the same figure last year

good luck man

Kinky John · 08-25-2007, 08:07 PM

sorry but for the record . . not be confused with http://www.spunkydollars.com

selena · 08-25-2007, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

So you saying the guy who claims to be getting screwed really screwed you and lots of others.... Typical.

No, not really. I just know that it left a bad feeling for me in terms of promoting it anymore. I have no knowledge about who made the determination on what happened to existing links.

heymatty · 08-25-2007, 09:01 PM

Doesn't sound like you have gone about collecting your money very thoroughly.

Formal letters, lawyers, putting it to collection etc. Sending the odd icq is not really the way to go.

opulence · 08-25-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by heymatty

Doesn't sound like you have gone about collecting your money very thoroughly.

Formal letters, lawyers, putting it to collection etc. Sending the odd icq is not really the way to go.

You're right, I didn't think it would have to come to that but I guess those will be the next steps.

Cradle · 08-25-2007, 10:13 PM

bump for ya

gecko · 08-25-2007, 10:30 PM

Hope you can get back your money

jonesonyou · 08-25-2007, 10:32 PM

I like traffic. Send me some traffic and make your money.

aico · 08-25-2007, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

Is that this guys fault?

Guess you only read the cliffnotes... typical.

kapopoy · 08-26-2007, 12:50 AM

some of his site and all of his promotional materials were done by the GREATEST AND OLDEST GFY SCAMMER's BUCKNAKED.

well, what you expect from this 2 tandem?

tenderobject · 08-26-2007, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kapopoy

some of his site and all of his promotional materials were done by the GREATEST AND OLDEST GFY SCAMMER's BUCKNAKED.

well, what you expect from this 2 tandem?

isnt he pinoy? i think i know him... why scammer? how come? do you have proofs? post it here.

about the issue. hope it get resolved... i love spunkycash..

tenderobject · 08-26-2007, 12:58 AM

kapopoy, i think i know his new nick.. let see. post some proof.. although i don't like what you've said about spunkycash. i for sure they run legit business..

Deej · 08-26-2007, 01:02 AM

Holy horse shit ...

tenderobject · 08-26-2007, 01:17 AM

bump for kapopoy!

kapopoy · 08-26-2007, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenderobject

isnt he pinoy? i think i know him... why scammer? how come? do you have proofs? post it here.

about the issue. hope it get resolved... i love spunkycash..

just search for bucknaked and hungryman, i said the oldest scammer so expect a thread back in 2001-2002

pinoy? i don't think so. pinoy in gfy started like in 2003, no one older than that

if there is, lemme know

tenderobject · 08-26-2007, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kapopoy

just search for bucknaked and hungryman, i said the oldest scammer so expect a thread back in 2001-2002

pinoy? i don't think so. pinoy in gfy started like in 2003, no one older than that

if there is, lemme know

i know someone who started here earlier than 2003.. i might mixed up with the guy you were talking about.. but the guy i know has been using bucknaked nick on some local boards and his design style is pretty much the same with spunkycash sites actually i was assuming he did those sites and other sologirls sites that looks like spunkycash sites.. you'll see his style on galleries as well... what a coincidence maybe.. i'll try to make a search...

tenderobject · 08-26-2007, 01:42 AM

i tried to search about this guy kapopoy. but i didn;t see any drama about bucknaked. he runs this site

http://www.sploogeworks.com/

he is hosted on refelcted.. i think its a decent host.. he still in the biz i think?

kindly point us to the thread where he scammed people..

kapopoy · 08-26-2007, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenderobject

i tried to search about this guy kapopoy. but i didn;t see any drama about bucknaked. he runs this site

http://www.sploogeworks.com/

he is hosted on refelcted.. i think its a decent host.. he still in the biz i think?

kindly point us to the thread where he scammed people..

yes thats the guy site but i guess you don't do well your search. search for pensfan, hungryman, bucknaked, seems they are of one persona

btw, here's a thread made by amp against bucknaked:

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ight=bucknaked

Tempest · 08-26-2007, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kapopoy

some of his site and all of his promotional materials were done by the GREATEST AND OLDEST GFY SCAMMER's BUCKNAKED.

Maybe you should go back and reread whatever drama you think you remember from back then retard... I don't see anything about BuckNaked being a scammer..

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=90164

There WAS some other drama at that time as well involving Traci, and he was on the sidelines of that one as well since he was doing designs.

The biggest problem with BN is that he's a nice guy and he tends to take on far more work than he should and undercharges for friends etc. so he sometimes ends up getting himself into cash flow and time problems.

Tempest · 08-26-2007, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kapopoy

yes thats the guy site but i guess you don't do well your search. search for pensfan, hungryman, bucknaked, seems they are of one persona

btw, here's a thread made by amp against bucknaked:

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ight=bucknaked

pensfan == bucknaked
hungryman != bucknaked

hungryman was the big time scammer. Apparently he even pretended to be a chick for awhile.

Violetta · 08-26-2007, 03:17 AM

sounds like a crappy deal you made there...

tenderobject · 08-26-2007, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

pensfan == bucknaked
hungryman != bucknaked

hungryman was the big time scammer. Apparently he even pretended to be a chick for awhile.

bucknaked run girliebank right? im ok with him then

tenderobject · 08-26-2007, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kapopoy

yes thats the guy site but i guess you don't do well your search. search for pensfan, hungryman, bucknaked, seems they are of one persona

btw, here's a thread made by amp against bucknaked:

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ight=bucknaked

search function sometimes sucks

Tempest · 08-26-2007, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenderobject

bucknaked run girliebank right? im ok with him then

Yep, that's him...

kapopoy · 08-26-2007, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

Maybe you should go back and reread whatever drama you think you remember from back then retard... I don't see anything about BuckNaked being a scammer..

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=90164

There WAS some other drama at that time as well involving Traci, and he was on the sidelines of that one as well since he was doing designs.

The biggest problem with BN is that he's a nice guy and he tends to take on far more work than he should and undercharges for friends etc. so he sometimes ends up getting himself into cash flow and time problems.

oh really? why lensman are so angry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman

Fuck you.

You're a front for Duane Hanson aka Buck Naked, Pensfan, all "your" designs are done by him, most of your "samples" are owned by him (including bucknakedthumbs.com). Fuck even your site in the sig is owned by Duane Hanson http://www.whois.sc/hahahahahahahaha...hahahahaha.com

Do you think that you could be a front for a guy who ripped off countless people (his GFY history is legendary), including me for several thousand dollars. And when I give him a break after 2 years and we make a deal for a bunch of templates, he STIFFS me again.

... in this thread?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hlight=pensfan

only one of those threads about the guy... well, this too old, i'm not saying until this moment the guy are still scammer.

Tempest · 08-26-2007, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kapopoy

oh really? why lensman are so angry

... in this thread?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hlight=pensfan

only one of those threads about the guy... well, this too old, i'm not saying until this moment the guy are still scammer.

Did you actually read the thread? It appears that Lens was pissed off about some gallery templates that he never got so started posting "examples" of BN ripping people off that were misleading when taken out of context. It also apears that BN was fully intending to do the galleries etc. but, as I pointed out above, he probably got himself into a jam.

I've heard enough about Lens from people that have worked for him and watched the way he does things on this board (like banning Alison Angel) for example, to know that I could never take anything he said as fact.

Basically what I'm saying is that BN gets himself into jams which gets people pissed off and they start calling him a scammer etc. but I have yet to see him come right out and scam. There's a difference in my opinion.

milkit · 08-26-2007, 04:32 AM

who the fuck cares about bucknaked this thread isnt about him?

and spunky/spunkycash is far from scammers

kapopoy · 08-26-2007, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

Did you actually read the thread? It appears that Lens was pissed off about some gallery templates that he never got so started posting "examples" of BN ripping people off that were misleading when taken out of context. It also apears that BN was fully intending to do the galleries etc. but, as I pointed out above, he probably got himself into a jam.

I've heard enough about Lens from people that have worked for him and watched the way he does things on this board (like banning Alison Angel) for example, to know that I could never take anything he said as fact.

Basically what I'm saying is that BN gets himself into jams which gets people pissed off and they start calling him a scammer etc. but I have yet to see him come right out and scam. There's a difference in my opinion.

okay, thats it. end of this BN

now get back to spunky99

but.... you're right for this,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

Basically what I'm saying is that BN gets himself into jams which gets people pissed off and they start calling him a scammer etc. but I have yet to see him come right out and scam. There's a difference in my opinion.

BN takes so much order thats he can't handle, and this prompt him to outscource the work... now, how if i say BN ripped me for some galleries i've done to him some years ago? BN hired some designers before, i dont know if i'm the only who got a half payment.

Antonio · 08-26-2007, 06:22 AM

drama thread sig spot

BuckNaked · 08-26-2007, 08:28 AM

hey ya know what? I have been in this biz for ten years, and I have done some crazy shit, bitten off waaay more than I could chew, ruined the best job I ever had, and I'm still standing...

As far as kapopoy, if I somehow owe you money hit me up on icq let me know who you are and we'll square it away... I may take forever to get work done sometimes and to pay people but they do get paid.

For the record, I am not hungryman or pinoy, I'm just a 35 year old dude from ohio trying to make it in the online jizzbizz...

And yeah I have done an assload of work for spunkycash, and as far as I'm concerned there are two sides to every story, and neither are any of my business, as long as I do the work and I get paid...

Op if you have a contract and ageement, why come to a board about it instead of going to a lawyer and handling it like a professional?

Mike69 · 08-26-2007, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kapopoy

just search for bucknaked and hungryman, i said the oldest scammer so expect a thread back in 2001-2002

pinoy? i don't think so. pinoy in gfy started like in 2003, no one older than that

if there is, lemme know

2003 .. lmao... GFY is much older then that... I am the oldest member..

You quote threads you know nothing about...

Lens was pissed at buck for not getting the galleries done in a timley manner, Buck has a hard time saying NO and sometimes ends up getting overloaded..

I personally know the matter was resolved and Lens got every gallery.

and how you ever decided to turn this into a trash on Buck thread I can't understand.

Anyone that works with Buck on a constant basis knows he'll get it done and it will be quality work, just takes a little extra time sometimes, but well worth the wait...

08-25-2007, 06:08 PM	#1
opulence Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 273	Spunky from SpunkyCash.com - a fair warning --- Cliffs at the bottom of the post--- About a year and a half ago I tried to launch a solo girl paysite, www.playwithparis.com - before doing so Spunky had an interest in the model and offered to pay me for her instead of me making the site. I declined, however after launching and running the site for a couple months I decided to sell the site to him. The deal was to receive 10k upfront and another 10k as it is accumulated from the site's revenue at a rate of 50%. Spunky was nice enough when he flew Paris and I to his place to do the deal, and trusted me staying there for a couple of days, pretty much unattended, even though we were pretty much strangers. I of course obliged by not causing any problems as a guest of his home. Everything went well there and I went home with my 10k. It is now a year and a half later and I still have not received 8 of the additional 10k that he was supposed to send me. My mistake for making a kind of deal like this, even though we have a contract written and signed, and it's been nothing but a pain trying to contact Spunky about it. He ignores me and basically avoided the situation for over a year straight. I stopped bugging him for awhile, but it's now been a year and a half and I still haven't received anything. Also - I sold the website to Spunky with Paris in mind because since the site wasn't doing so great when I was running it, I thought allowing her to work with someone more professional and established would be a better experience for her. Not the case - the site ended up making less and Spunky has also been extremely shifty in the way that he pays (or lack of payment) Paris. So just a warning to anyone getting started, or anyone that is a little too trustworthy, don't make the same stupid mistake I did of dealing with a shady dude like Spunky unless you get everything you're asking for upfront. Also, if anyone has any advice of what I could do about this I'd be glad to hear it - I still have the original contract we both signed a year and a half ago. --- Cliffs --- I sold www.playwithparis.com to Spunky over a year and a half ago, and he didn't pay me 8k of what he owes me for it, he avoids me and ignores me and is all around a shady individual that you shouldn't deal with if you don't have to.

08-25-2007, 06:10 PM	#2
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,919	I blame it on the reefer __________________ *Skype : Spunky GFY*

08-25-2007, 06:11 PM	#5
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08-25-2007, 06:31 PM	#8
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08-25-2007, 07:40 PM	#13
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08-25-2007, 06:11 PM	#3
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	Sucks, but maybe the site hasn't made 20k to pay you the remaining 10k?

08-25-2007, 06:26 PM	#7
Big_D CRAZY MOFUKKA Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,296	damn dude, hope it all works out for ya

08-25-2007, 06:31 PM	#9
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	You should always get the money up front and your done. My friend sold his restaurant that way and within 2 yrs he had it back.

08-25-2007, 07:43 PM	#15
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08-25-2007, 07:48 PM	#17
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	username is spunky99 i'm pretty sure, i learned also that icq isnt the best way of contacting, leave him messages in all forms, if still no reply from either then assume you're being avoided (btw, sorry if i missed something, i only read the "cliff notes" )

08-25-2007, 07:53 PM	#18
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08-25-2007, 08:05 PM	#20
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08-25-2007, 08:07 PM	#21
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08-25-2007, 09:01 PM	#23
heymatty Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Scottsdale :) Posts: 2,188	Doesn't sound like you have gone about collecting your money very thoroughly. Formal letters, lawyers, putting it to collection etc. Sending the odd icq is not really the way to go. __________________ Cashlantis ~ Black Book Cash

08-25-2007, 10:13 PM	#25
Cradle meh Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: the beach Posts: 1,438	bump for ya __________________

08-25-2007, 10:30 PM	#26
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08-25-2007, 10:32 PM	#27
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08-26-2007, 12:50 AM	#29
kapopoy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 593	some of his site and all of his promotional materials were done by the GREATEST AND OLDEST GFY SCAMMER's BUCKNAKED. well, what you expect from this 2 tandem?

08-26-2007, 12:58 AM	#31
tenderobject Need Designs? 312352846 Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 11,684	kapopoy, i think i know his new nick.. let see. post some proof.. although i don't like what you've said about spunkycash. i for sure they run legit business.. __________________ NEED DESIGNS?!?

08-26-2007, 01:02 AM	#32
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08-26-2007, 01:17 AM	#33
tenderobject Need Designs? 312352846 Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 11,684	bump for kapopoy! __________________ NEED DESIGNS?!?

08-26-2007, 01:42 AM	#36
tenderobject Need Designs? 312352846 Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 11,684	i tried to search about this guy kapopoy. but i didn;t see any drama about bucknaked. he runs this site http://www.sploogeworks.com/ he is hosted on refelcted.. i think its a decent host.. he still in the biz i think? kindly point us to the thread where he scammed people.. __________________ NEED DESIGNS?!?

08-26-2007, 03:17 AM	#40
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	sounds like a crappy deal you made there... __________________ M&A Queen

08-26-2007, 04:32 AM	#46
milkit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,141	who the fuck cares about bucknaked this thread isnt about him? and spunky/spunkycash is far from scammers

08-26-2007, 06:22 AM	#48
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08-26-2007, 08:28 AM	#49
BuckNaked Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Moved to a tent in the back yard Posts: 399	hey ya know what? I have been in this biz for ten years, and I have done some crazy shit, bitten off waaay more than I could chew, ruined the best job I ever had, and I'm still standing... As far as kapopoy, if I somehow owe you money hit me up on icq let me know who you are and we'll square it away... I may take forever to get work done sometimes and to pay people but they do get paid. For the record, I am not hungryman or pinoy, I'm just a 35 year old dude from ohio trying to make it in the online jizzbizz... And yeah I have done an assload of work for spunkycash, and as far as I'm concerned there are two sides to every story, and neither are any of my business, as long as I do the work and I get paid... Op if you have a contract and ageement, why come to a board about it instead of going to a lawyer and handling it like a professional? __________________ The BuckNaked Show! LIVE! Thursday's Midnight EST Daily Grind Radio