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Old 09-03-2007, 02:12 PM   #1
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:mad Anyone else burned by Jeffs Design or Ragging Rhino??? He works with Rage Cash

Hey guys I am going to trying the main form with darkhorses advice!!! If anyone else has been burnt by Jeff/Ragging Rhino let me know!

I am looking for some contact info for this guy he took 350$ as a deposit for a webiste to be done within 7 days and of course the site was never done and paypal is trying to recover the funds!!!

If anyone can help that would be great!!!
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:19 PM   #2
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hmm that sucks he seem to be a good guy. hope you guys can sort things out.. goodluck
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:27 PM   #4
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Paypal will get you 20% back or something like that..
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:40 PM   #5
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:39 PM   #6
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All though Rhino works for Rage Cash, im going to assume this was something he took on BEFORE working for Rage Cash, as a full time employee he wouldnt be allowed to take on outside projects. Even though I dont know the details about this, I Icq'd him in regards to this thread, im sure as soon as he gets the msg he will step in and get this taken care of.

Not sure if it's mis communication or some other shit either way I dont want Rage's name attatched to it.
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:41 PM   #7
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All though Rhino works for Rage Cash, im going to assume this was something he took on BEFORE working for Rage Cash, as a full time employee he wouldnt be allowed to take on outside projects. Even though I dont know the details about this, I Icq'd him in regards to this thread, im sure as soon as he gets the msg he will step in and get this taken care of.

Not sure if it's mis communication or some other shit either way I dont want Rage's name attatched to it.
you mean when i was manwhoring down in tampa on the side i was breaking the rage code?

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All though Rhino works for Rage Cash, im going to assume this was something he took on BEFORE working for Rage Cash, as a full time employee he wouldnt be allowed to take on outside projects. Even though I dont know the details about this, I Icq'd him in regards to this thread, im sure as soon as he gets the msg he will step in and get this taken care of.

Not sure if it's mis communication or some other shit either way I dont want Rage's name attatched to it.
hey john, i know this is kinda odd/weird/old/offtopic but can you help me get my money off from sarah? i just have all the proof of money she owed us for the ragecash galls we made and for other prejects.. honetsly, kinda pisses me off sometimes when i see her posting on your boards... seem to be akward.ekk

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Old 09-03-2007, 06:48 PM   #9
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YOu know I dont really know what is going on at this point he lost all contacts with me and took the funds!!! I mean its 350$ not the end of the world but if I am going to just throw it away I would have went to pokerstarts.net or something LOL

Hey guys thanks for the support All I hope for is that Jeff makes this right I woudl even take some cash back and the items he did finish if any!!!

A1R3k arent you his boss/manager at rage cash???
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This was back in July so I am not sure when he was hired on but I know that his new job with you guys did affect this project and I asked him many times if he wanted me to take it elsewhere due to his hiring!!!

Hopefully we can get soemthing figured out I guess I keep posting this stuff all over and hopefully get him to respond...

Thanks again
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YOu know I dont really know what is going on at this point he lost all contacts with me and took the funds!!! I mean its 350$ not the end of the world but if I am going to just throw it away I would have went to pokerstarts.net or something LOL

Hey guys thanks for the support All I hope for is that Jeff makes this right I woudl even take some cash back and the items he did finish if any!!!

A1R3k arent you his boss/manager at rage cash???
man, goodluck, jeff will clean this mess for sure. suck to get scammed..
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YOu know I dont really know what is going on at this point he lost all contacts with me and took the funds!!! I mean its 350$ not the end of the world but if I am going to just throw it away I would have went to pokerstarts.net or something LOL

Hey guys thanks for the support All I hope for is that Jeff makes this right I woudl even take some cash back and the items he did finish if any!!!

A1R3k arent you his boss/manager at rage cash???
negative sir. i'm not at ragecash. but i still love extreme john like my daddy

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Old 09-03-2007, 07:01 PM   #15
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I see I came across your name alot on the ragecash forums looking for Jeff... Well hope he works this out
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hey john, i know this is kinda odd/weird/old/offtopic but can you help me get my money off from sarah? i just have all the proof of money she owed us for the ragecash galls we made and for other prejects.. honetsly, kinda pisses me off sometimes when i see her posting on your boards... seem to be akward.ekk

ignore me if this is not your interest..
To be honest with you, I cant say I even know enough about this topic to comment on it, only money thing I ever heard about Zuzana till this point was with something about her boyfriend and FHM. We hired Zuzana Designs almost 3 years ago to do some hosted galleries for Rage's release, we didnt have anything to do with how she got the work completed, as long as it got completed. Have you brought this up to her? Ill bring it up to her, but as far as what pull I can really have with her im sure it's not much as we dont use Zuzana Designs anymore and havnet since the beginning.
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:21 PM   #17
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Wanted to thank you all for the input!!! Jeff did email me BUT no fixes yet!!! That is the first email I have got in 3 weeks!!! I am sure that is becuase of you guys helping a bro out!!!

Thanks again
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Tender the work you were doing with rage was paid to you and you know this. You didn't just do ragecash galleries, I will get together the 1000's of dollars in WU, Epassporte e-bay items and domains I bought for you, and the countless galleries I had to fix as the grammer was incorrect and you would miss a deadline so I would have to do the galleries and 2 days later you would complete the same gallery. You outsourced the work I was giving you to your "boys".

You were doing WAY more than rage galleries and I paid you what you were owed. If you want to keep bringing this up you can. But as I have said at least 20 times already you are paid and thats it. I will only post once in this thread for the respect of Ragecash.
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Wanted to thank you all for the input!!! Jeff did email me BUT no fixes yet!!! That is the first email I have got in 3 weeks!!! I am sure that is becuase of you guys helping a bro out!!!

Thanks again
I spoke to Jeff this morning and he assured me this was going to be resolved.
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I have done headers and buttons for the themes but never did a custom theme
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I'm sure he'll work it out with you dholli, RageCash are top notch bro's
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Tender the work you were doing with rage was paid to you and you know this. You didn't just do ragecash galleries, I will get together the 1000's of dollars in WU, Epassporte e-bay items and domains I bought for you, and the countless galleries I had to fix as the grammer was incorrect and you would miss a deadline so I would have to do the galleries and 2 days later you would complete the same gallery. You outsourced the work I was giving you to your "boys".

You were doing WAY more than rage galleries and I paid you what you were owed. If you want to keep bringing this up you can. But as I have said at least 20 times already you are paid and thats it. I will only post once in this thread for the respect of Ragecash.
wow you are fucking hilarious sarah and out of your fucking mind!!!!

can you look at this you bitch?

www.tenderdesign.com/works.htm

those are the proofs! no, you didn't paid all the money you owed me. the ebay stuff you were refering was a fucking few $$$ for a fucking fred perry bags that you insisted of buying because its for my daugher and a gift for me because i work damn hard for the projects! plus the domain you bought for me is just a domain for 10$-15$ fucking christ dollars! plus the epassporte paypal stuff you are trying to say was just for a fucking few $$ since you always insisted those bullshite! you keep on insisting those things when i was working with you... and i think i beleive that would be some insentives for me.. not bad though. but its funny you we're like talking those shit here. thats not the point ms. collins...

anyways, about the galleries we made for you there are some netpond threads about galls we made for you and you are fucking happy posting it and telling people that we are working for you damnit! plus we did agreed on ragecash galleries that we will do the graphics you will do the fucking text ads to each of the galleries.. how would it became a problem since you all insisted it??? you are so fucking out of your mind sarah. act like an adult! ohh please don't outsource your design works to filipino since ENGLISH is not our first language!

ok, you didn't respect ragecash when i was working with you since you keep on telling me ragecash money is late/checks are lost and bullshit crap like that. you even sent me a fucking fake bank account! and you even told me you will gonna ship the laptop you've won on ragecash contest just to pay me! i think i can dig some emails here so people know especially airek and john who really tells the truth! you have to thank me co's icq logs isn't available anymore lol... look at the money we made from ragecash.. not 100% paid!. look at the money we made from other sponsors? those are only 30% of all the money that should have been paid...

i remember the first drama on EB before between you and some people there.. why i didn't just listen to them but then i keep on dealing with you! those we're the days when payments are late and shite! and you keep on blaming sponsors/clients because of that! but i just kept my fucking mouth shut co's you got my trust! you fucked it up!

after the drama on eb and here a year ago.. we made an agreement right??



isn't that a deal? since you owe us 1292$ i just tol you to send 900$ all in all so its done.. but then again.. you didn't send the money that we agreed on.. so who's telling the truth here? heh i told you i will be just here and i will keep on bringing back the shit youve done! i told many times we can fix this but you don't intend to... you'll get your karma soon!
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:05 PM   #24
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Thanks John I think this was the only way to get soemthing from him he wouldnt respond to me emails or ICQ!!!

Thanks for your help
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MAN OH MAN this jeff at rage cash is a real piece of work I have to tell you!!! So he decided to get around the paypal complaint he is going to send me some cd's with nothing on them! Real nice I am out 350$ becuase this guy decided he didnt want to do anything for the money!!!

What would you do in my shoes??? Small Claims court? I have a friend that lives right by him in KY maybe file it there??? Let me know John I am hoping you can help me out here!!! This guy is no good and knew what he was doing from the get go!!!

Hit me up on gfy with some ideas!!!
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I am going to try and keep this fresh until something is done!!! I dont want anyone else burnt by this guy Jeff or Ragging Rhino!!! Hard up for 350$ WOW
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At this point I am out the 350$ looking at other options paypal didnt do shit! LOL figures! Maybe a vacation to KY would be good
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Send it to small claims #1. Fuck with him, he deserves it.
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seems to me not fair at all to even mention rage in this thread.. i'd be pissed.
now you are draggin their name in the mud...
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Old 09-12-2007, 08:29 PM   #32
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You know I felt the same way but they are the only ones that can get him to come out from hiding!!! I have tried everything then John from above got him to email me still no answer though!!!

I am working on the small claims court I should call Judge Judy LOL be good for his ass! Sorry Rage help me out here and I will go away! is all I can say
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I hear that LOL!!! I am not looking for rage to send me anything for Jeff mess up! Not at all! I would just like an email and even half of the cash back in paypal!

This guy is a rip off I just want to make sure he doesnt get to anyone else! I should have known when he was talking about his house payment being due I was screwed!!!
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Where Jeff??? LOL small claims to be filed this week! Dought I will get anything out of it but the 35$ will be worth it LOL

Thanks for the support guys! Sorry rage cash for dragging you into this just trying to get the 350$ back any help would be great!
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As I thought no end to this crap! No help from rage cash after Extreme John had mentioned he would have this handled! Now I am pretty sure he has changed his name on GFY to AW JEFF so be on the look out!!!
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As I thought no end to this crap! No help from rage cash after Extreme John had mentioned he would have this handled! Now I am pretty sure he has changed his name on GFY to AW JEFF so be on the look out!!!
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gotta be honest here it really isnt Johns mess to sort out .. he cant force the guy to come and talk to you against his will .. i agree you got burned and it sucks balls . i dont think i'd want to lose that sorta cash either but a few months down the line you still didnt take this to court .. thats what i'd do for sure
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As I thought no end to this crap! No help from rage cash after Extreme John had mentioned he would have this handled! Now I am pretty sure he has changed his name on GFY to AW JEFF so be on the look out!!!
O.k. let's get this clear. I did exactly what I said I would do which was bring this to Rhino's attention and give him the chance to handle it, you said your self in THIS THREAD that he emailed you. So I DID do my part in trying to assist you. Im not a judge, im not a lawyer and for all I know you could be bent about something totally different than whats in this thread.

AGAIN I sent this to Rhino, how he chooses to handle this with YOU is HIS choice, it's not my job in this matter or any previous matter of work that he did or did not do to hunt him down for you.

Now Ill kindly ask that you leave my name and the Rage name off your finger tips when trying to address this matter with Jeff. Im not the middle man and I dont plan on becoming one.
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Don, I'm not going to keep rehashing this bullshit with you over and over again.
You had me to do flash work for you..when I gave it to you..you gave me the bullshit that you didn't know how to update it or so html.
I have had tons of idoits over the years that do not know html or the basic shit of running a website.
I'm not going to go over and over on this issue.
You bitched and I gave you a zip link and also sent the files to you on cd.
When you bitched to me..I told you to give them to whoever, I was done fiddle fucking with you.
I'm done with this issue and I do suggest you leave Rage out of this. It has nothing to do with Rage and was all done, before becoming employed with them.
You can take your lawsuit..wad it up in a little ball and shove it straight up your ass.
I haven't even been givin full payment and I will never see it.

I have too much on my plate with Rage as it is to be told my friend Don is kicking and screaming.

I don't have problem with doing work for people..but god damn..if I am going to fucking babysit.
That's why i took the job with rage..to get away from people like yourself.
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Btw you nitwit..I have had this name on gfy for 5 years..so I didn't just change it.
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Is this thread serious, maybe dude owes you money, but to call out a program about a dude that john had no knowledge of doing biz with you is a little hardcore ya think, i know john did what he said he would do, that guy always does that, but to continue to bring a program into a fight in which they had nothing to do with it is rather nuts, everyone has been burnt on a deal, sucks balls, but no one really has gone to gfy calling out programs based on a employee who they just hired month ago or so. Again i hope you get your money or work or whatever but keep john and the rage crew out off the tongue
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Yes, I was ripped off by that bitch Rhino as well. He never completed the work, and I had put down $500.00 on a design.

He was inbetween jobs, and this was before he took the Rage Cash job. He said he would have it done in a few weeks. I had actually posted on gfy before, and their owner had confronted Jeff about it. Because he isn't supposed to work for anyone else.

Anyways, you can do a search on here for the longer version. The short version is that bitch kept telling me how hard he was working, but never had a preview. It would always be done in a few days, a few weeks, the weekend, there was just one little thing...

yeah right

Then he stopped replying to e-mails and IM's. I said I just wanted my money back, and he said he would have it completed in 2 days. Then he disappeared and never responded to any e-mail or IM's.

I paid him by company check so I would have his address, full name, and signature showing valid proof should something happen.

He was supposed to have had this shit done back end of August, latest early Sept. He's never sent me my $500 back, or delivered ANYTHING for the site. No preview, no final, no draft. Just ICQ log of how hard he was working.

He is a fucking fraud. If you want his contact info, I'll get it to you. Including his bank, routing and account numbers etc.

Hammer this fucking fraud to the wall.

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Old 12-04-2007, 10:16 PM   #44
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This doesn't even get into me helping this fucker out. Before he was picked up by Rage Cash, he was crying to me about how he was out of work, and needed money, and all this.

More a less was begging for work, and telling me how quickly he could get it done, how he is better than other designers, and all that.

So he sounded like a nice enough guy, and some people vouched for him. So I figured I would throw him some work the help him out. A week or so later, Rage Cash picked him up and while I put half down, so I should have come first. He never completed the work. It was all these excuses, and like I said. He NOT ONCE showed me a demo, mock up or anything.

So he essentially TOOK ADVANTAGE of me helping him in his time of need, but then was like a big FUCK YOU when he had to deliver.

That is what kind of guy Rhino (designer)/AM Jeff/Jeff Lamceck is.
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interesting read here
Yeah.

Tales of Jeff Rage Cash fraud.

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Cant believe Ragecash have a guy like this on board. He sounds like a complete fuckwad....
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Cant believe Ragecash have a guy like this on board. He sounds like a complete fuckwad....
Believe it.

Maybe when I have time I'll do a search for the original thread. I had posted one on here the first time he pulled his Houdini act, and the owner of Rage saw it. Then contacted Jeff, who contacted me and said that he had gotten bitched at because of it.

Not because he was a dead beat, but because he wasn't supposed to work for anyone else while with Rage Cash. However, he took my job 2 weeks or more prior to working for Rage Cash.

According to his initial promises. My site should have been done before then, but it wasn't. Then he did his Houdini, and I took it to gfy to track him down. He gave me the designer classics,...it was going to be done every couple days, the weekend, next weekend, next week, and then he vanished again.

I told him I just wanted my money back since there was no mock up, or anything. He then decided he would not pay me apparently, nor return ICQ's, or e-mails.

As I said, not once did he show me ANY progress on the site the whole time. I might have given him more time if I actually SAW some progress. But he blew the deadline by a month before he decided he was just going to be a fraud and not pay me back my money, or deliver the phantom design.

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Send it to small claims #1. Fuck with him, he deserves it.
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no problem with ragecash so far here...

but take care about a fucking idiot called "drinking hard".. stay away of that fucking cheater or you will get in trouble..

Someone will give him a lesson soon anyway, and he will finish in the hospital.
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