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Old 09-04-2007, 09:23 AM   #51
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You people who think the chinese military is a match for ours are fucking pathetic.

It's not about mass of men, it's about technology. Our navy is so superior to anything else in the world that not a single solitary ship from another country would ever make it to our shore to land troops. Not one fucking ship, not one fucking platoon would ever step foot on our soil.

It's like comparing an army of 1 million swordsmen against an army of 10K machine gunners. Who do you think would win that one?
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:23 AM   #52
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They do have ICBM's but we outnumber them in that area by thousands.

So I repeat...pigshit.
You have NO idea what they have and are pulling those facts out of your ass, it's not public information
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stop buying at Wal-Mart and it all over for China.
its that simple.
Are you FUCKING HIGH?!?!?! You trying to get us ALL KILLED?!?!?!

He's just kidding America! Go back to buying at Wal-Mart, go back to believing your leaders. This will all be over in no time at all. Good night America.
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It's not about mass of men, it's about technology. Our navy is so superior to anything else in the world that not a single solitary ship from another country would ever make it to our shore to land troops. Not one fucking ship, not one fucking platoon would ever step foot on our soil.

You're gonna eat your words once the Canadian Army figures out how to fight. (I mean fight with real guns)
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The fact that America borrows $4bn per day from China and is in debt of over $7 trillion to them kind of gives you a hint on who is the most powerfull.

If China foreclosed on American loans America wouldnt have the cash to buy weapons.
You're really bad at math.
Our entire national debt is less than 10 trillion. We owe maybe 1 trillion to the chinese.

If China "foreclosed" on American loans they'd be fucked, not us. (BTW it's not like we took out a mortgage or something with them, they bought treasury bills...not sure how you foreclose a treasury bill)
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:33 AM   #58
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If we had the full support of the American people for Iraq, we might have a different ballgame over there in Iraq. The political infighting and partisanship has greatly weakened our country. Our enemy sees us divided, and exploits it.
The American people don't support Iraq because there was no reason for the war, and the administration lied to gain the little support they had.

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China is not much different. The American people made a terrible choice in voting for Bill Clinton. China exploited this and made massive gains in stealing our military technology during Clinton's administration. Now our own weapons technology is pointed.. at us.
Bush has been whoring off weapons technology to other countries as well, just like every president over the last 50 years. You think the public made a mistake voting for CLINTON? Your giant flag must be have been blowing in front of your TV screen for the last 7 years...
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I love it how all americans brag about their strongest super army on the
planet.....yet they failed in vietnam, failed in Irak (twice), failed in Afghanistan
and can't find a terrorist riding a camel in the mountains.......
HAHAHAHAHAHA


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Oh man, you really are teh sucks at history and current events.

We squashed the Iraqi army like a bug twice. (occupation is different than war numbnuts)

Vietnam was a mistake and a debacle, but no reasonable person has any doubt that we could have crushed them totally if we'd had the political will to do so.

We toppled the Taliban in what did it take? Two weeks? How long did the Soviets fight there before they gave up, tucked tail, and ran home?

While we're on the subject of powerful militaries, how long did it take you guys to bow down to Hitler? You were overrun in how many days?
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We toppled the Taliban in what did it take? Two weeks? How long did the Soviets fight there before they gave up, tucked tail, and ran home?


UPDATE: the afghan war is still going on ( aside from the hunt for Bin Laden).

BTW, the soviets stayed in Afghanistan for quite a while, taking casualties from the insurgents supported by the USA ....
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:50 AM   #61
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While we're on the subject of powerful militaries, how long did it take you guys to bow down to Hitler? You were overrun in how many days?
Might not want to bring up WW2, US textbooks and the textbooks in the rest of the world tell a very different story
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Their military out numbers us 100 to 1. If they wanted to.. no.. they WILL one day just roll right thru us. They'll make Grenada look like... well.. Grenada.
Size of military is more or less unimportant these days. In a war with a major country like China, a push of a button can wipe out an entire city for generations.

Militarily, most experts will tell you that China is still decades behind us. Besides that, they have no strategic geographical allies that would threaten us. We have bases throughout the world, and many very close to China. One of the reasons the US doesn't get attacked on the homeland is because of the difficulty in getting troops into the country.

But all of this is pointless. No one is going to go to war with anyone here. China's economy relies on us just like we rely on them. We're turning into a global economy that makes it beneficial to everyone to stay peaceful.
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Might not want to bring up WW2, US textbooks and the textbooks in the rest of the world tell a very different story
What is that story? I've read a lot of history books from across the globe.
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Their military out numbers us 100 to 1. If they wanted to.. no.. they WILL one day just roll right thru us. They'll make Grenada look like... well.. Grenada.
Our kill ratio in Iraq is over 400 to 1.

And thats against more experienced and trained militants.
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You have NO idea what they have and are pulling those facts out of your ass, it's not public information
Ever heard of Janes Guide??? Ask anyone that had been in the armed forces.
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Oh man, you really are teh sucks at history and current events.

We squashed the Iraqi army like a bug twice. (occupation is different than war numbnuts)

Vietnam was a mistake and a debacle, but no reasonable person has any doubt that we could have crushed them totally if we'd had the political will to do so.

We toppled the Taliban in what did it take? Two weeks? How long did the Soviets fight there before they gave up, tucked tail, and ran home?

While we're on the subject of powerful militaries, how long did it take you guys to bow down to Hitler? You were overrun in how many days?

Better check up on your history facts yourself son.......

We were overrun in a few days......probably less than a week......you don't
hear us brag about our army coz we know it sucks......In fact they should
just cancel our whole army and save the money.......there's very few
Dutch people who would dissagree about that
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enough of this "it's the end for the US" threads..
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If they tell a story other than Europe was getting the bloody hell kicked out of them by the Germans until the Americans stepped in they're lying.
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If we had the full support of the American people for Iraq, we might have a different ballgame over there in Iraq. The political infighting and partisanship has greatly weakened our country. Our enemy sees us divided, and exploits it.

China is not much different. The American people made a terrible choice in voting for Bill Clinton. China exploited this and made massive gains in stealing our military technology during Clinton's administration. Now our own weapons technology is pointed.. at us.

The American people need to make better choices, give up their gas guzzlers, give up their cheap Chinese products, and stand united. If and when our great country collapses, the blame will be with the citizens who made these terrible choices.
United we stand..together we will fall

Btw I think the next war will be between The USA and Iran and nor China
Because when the Usa pull out of Iraq that is going to leave a power base vacum and Iran has allready said they are waiting to fill that space, and I dont think the USA or the UK would let that happen
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But all of this is pointless. No one is going to go to war with anyone here. China's economy relies on us just like we rely on them. We're turning into a global economy that makes it beneficial to everyone to stay peaceful.
it's odd to me how few people get this point.

united states is china's biggest customer, why would they war with their biggest customer?

here's why- they invade and watch their exports dry up.
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Come on guys.. dont you think a story like this would be all over the news? Not only on a side page on yahoo news.. and i dont see it on any other news site..
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Come on guys.. dont you think a story like this would be all over the news? Not only on a side page on yahoo news.. and i dont see it on any other news site..
It's just another "a Pentagon spokesman said" story and it did get published by various news media, but based on no evidence and coming from an agency with no credibility.

The Pentagon lives off having "threats to our defenses". It may or may not be true - all gaming-playing and posturing. Like China has an interest in "conquoring" the US?? They'd have to be paid to give a shit and waste their time - it would be like buying a bankrupt corp, paying full price and taking on all debt and problems. Fat chance.
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LOL at your pigshit comment.

We couldn't take Vietnam, we can't take Iraq and we sure as hell would have our assess handed to us by the Chinese if that day ever comes, and it may.
I know what you mean that Iraq Republican Guard, ground troops and air defense put on a great fight. I remember seeing all the dog fights on TV, Iraq owned the sky.
And that massive offensive protecting the capital, what a fight. And lets not forget the armor Iraq had in the field, I wasnt sure if our tanks could match such sophisticated armored columns. Wow, those couple months were tough.
There is a difference betweeen taking a country and holding it.
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Maybe the rest of the world should get US text books.
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The Chinese would also have the support of the Russians if they ever engaged war with America. And Russia can match America military techonology. Soviets have shown themselves to be immensely adept at technological ingenuity.
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Russia is so far behind these days it's not even funny. We spend as much on nuclear warheads as they do on their entire military. We spend 16 times as much as they do on the military. Russia is behind a lot of countries when it comes to military technology.
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Their military out numbers us 100 to 1. If they wanted to.. no.. they WILL one day just roll right thru us. They'll make Grenada look like... well.. Grenada.
that's hard to do when one bomb can incinerate thousands
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Russia is so far behind these days it's not even funny. We spend as much on nuclear warheads as they do on their entire military. We spend 16 times as much as they do on the military. Russia is behind a lot of countries when it comes to military technology.
... Such a peacefull country ..

no wonder you are the leaders in freedom and democracy spreading ....

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and can't find a terrorist riding a camel in the mountains.......
shit. It stings.
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no wonder you are the leaders in freedom and democracy spreading ....

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The world powers are changing and changing fast, Even Russia has threatened to re activate all of its nukes and point them at the rest of europe and all because the USA wanted to build a nuke defense system in Poland to protect Britain against a nuke attack, A couple of weeks back The Russians flew bombers into British air space and the British scrambled fighters to intercept them, what gets me is why all of a sudden is Russia trying to flex its military power and doing big oil deals with China, because as you know Russia has a lot of natural resources including oil, I think if ever a war between China and the USA happened in the near future The USA would have a tough time because the US Troops are so streched allready, The USA and Britian have been fighting wars and spending huge amounts of money and China and Russia have not , so who would last in a long drawn out war, or who would run out of money first, or push the button..just my thoughts
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:01 PM   #94
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any talk of a war with any major country is nuts
there are no winners in wars
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:08 PM   #95
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Russia is so far behind these days it's not even funny. We spend as much on nuclear warheads as they do on their entire military. We spend 16 times as much as they do on the military. Russia is behind a lot of countries when it comes to military technology.
Never underestimate the Russians.
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It's all fun and games in the USA until China makes a power move, then it's game over for the self proclaimed "greatest country on earth."

Now is a good time to teach your children Mandarin and Cantonese.
Anytime is a good time to learn those languages - the money for people who are fluent is extraordinary.

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They do have ICBM's but we outnumber them in that area by thousands.
Oh, well then, we win.

Honestly, ONE ICBM is all they need to get off the ground, and if they can get 10 or 20, it's closing time for the USA even if we do out number their ICBMs by 1000s. They send up 10, we send up 1000, does it matter at that point?

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It's like comparing an army of 1 million swordsmen against an army of 10K machine gunners. Who do you think would win that one?
Sooner or later your 10k gunners will run out of ammo. Then you will have 500,000 more swordsman to deal with.
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It's a given they will be the next world superpower, and those who can negotiate and conduct business with them will cash in.
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