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Old 09-04-2007, 03:37 AM   #1
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China hacked into Pentagon computer network

Click here for Yahoo story.

It's all fun and games in the USA until China makes a power move, then it's game over for the self proclaimed "greatest country on earth."

Now is a good time to teach your children Mandarin and Cantonese.
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:41 AM   #2
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This shit happens a lot between all countries. I would bet we have hacked into their systems a time or two.
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Their military out numbers us 100 to 1. If they wanted to.. no.. they WILL one day just roll right thru us. They'll make Grenada look like... well.. Grenada.
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This shit happens a lot between all countries. I would bet we have hacked into their systems a time or two.
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China is the sleeping dragon. First Australia, then USA, Canada, Mexico...
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Their military out numbers us 100 to 1. If they wanted to.. no.. they WILL one day just roll right thru us. They'll make Grenada look like... well.. Grenada.
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Pigshit.
LOL at your pigshit comment.

Hey, I'll be right there next to you fighting defending our great country if they ever invaded us (they wouldn't), but in any ground war, on any land, our troops against theirs, we would lose. I hate to say it, but we would.

We couldn't take Vietnam, we can't take Iraq and we sure as hell would have our assess handed to us by the Chinese if that day ever comes, and it may.

The ONLY chance in hell we may have is a serious preemptive strike against Chinese military targets in an attempt to cripple them before they moved on us. But common sense says we wouldn't dent their massive army in such a strike and would regret that move.
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America has never won a war on its own. The only victories America has ever had have been when they have either France or UK on their side. The moment either of these two countries pull out American soldiers enter body bags.
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LOL at your pigshit comment.

Hey, I'll be right there next to you fighting defending our great country if they ever invaded us (they wouldn't), but in any ground war, on any land, our troops against theirs, we would lose. I hate to say it, but we would.

We couldn't take Vietnam, we can't take Iraq and we sure as hell would have our assess handed to us by the Chinese if that day ever comes, and it may.

The ONLY chance in hell we may have is a serious preemptive strike against Chinese military targets in an attempt to cripple them before they moved on us. But common sense says we wouldn't dent their massive army in such a strike and would regret that move.
Can't we all just get along? Everybody needs everybody. The chinese lean on the rest of the world for their economic uprising. They import everything the can get their hands on. So the last thing they want to do is pick a fight and risk losing all that.

It wil take many many years for China to complete that, so as long as they aren't selfsufficient, they won't be dumb enough to start a war imho
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By ANITA CHANG ? 1 hour ago

BEIJING (AP) ? China on Tuesday denied a report that its military had hacked into Pentagon computers, saying the allegations were "groundless" and that Beijing was opposed to cybercrime.

The Financial Times, citing unnamed officials, reported Monday that the People's Liberation Army hacked into a computer system in the office of Defense Secretary Robert Gates in June. The attack forced officials to take down the network for more than a week, the report said.

"Some people make groundless accusations against China" that its military attacked the Pentagon, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said at a regular news briefing.

"China has all along been opposed to and forbids criminal activities undermining computer networks, including hacking," she said. "China is ready to strengthen cooperation with other countries, including the U.S., in countering Internet crimes."

The Financial Times report said the Pentagon was still investigating how much information was stolen, but cited an unnamed person as saying that most of it was probably unclassified.

It was the second time in two weeks that China was accused of hacking into a foreign government's computers. On the eve of German Chancellor Angela Merkel's visit to Beijing last week, the weekly Der Spiegel said computers at the Chancellery and three ministries had been infected with so-called Trojans, or spy programs.

The report, which did not specify its sources, said Germany's domestic intelligence agency believed a group of hackers associated with the People's Liberation Army might have been behind the alleged hacking.

At the time, Premier Wen Jiabao called the reported hacking a "matter of grave concern" and said China would take "firm and effective action" to prevent such crimes.

The Pentagon warned earlier this year that China's army is emphasizing hacking as an offensive weapon. It cited Chinese military exercises in 2005 that included hacking "primarily in first strikes against enemy networks."

The Associated Press reported in July that the State Department was trying to recover from large-scale network break-ins affecting operations worldwide. The hackers appeared to target the department headquarters and offices dealing with China and North Korea, it was reported.

However, experts have said that China is home to a large number of insecure computers and networks that hackers in other countries could use to disguise their locations and launch attacks.
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LOL at your pigshit comment.

Hey, I'll be right there next to you fighting defending our great country if they ever invaded us (they wouldn't), but in any ground war, on any land, our troops against theirs, we would lose. I hate to say it, but we would.

We couldn't take Vietnam, we can't take Iraq and we sure as hell would have our assess handed to us by the Chinese if that day ever comes, and it may.

The ONLY chance in hell we may have is a serious preemptive strike against Chinese military targets in an attempt to cripple them before they moved on us. But common sense says we wouldn't dent their massive army in such a strike and would regret that move.
They have more people than the US but we can arm a larger force than they can. At the end of the second world war we had sixteen million people in uniform with a population almost one third the size of our current population and an economy that was a fraction of our current economy even allowing for inflation.

They do not have the technological weapons that we have.
They do not have the naval power that we have.
They do not have the air power that we have.
They do not have the industrial capacity that we have.
They do not have the ability to project power (other than the use of ICBM's)and we do and are prepositioned around the globe.

They admitted a year or two ago that they are not a military match for us...but stated that they were going to work on changing that. They have increased their military spending and assuming that we remained stagnant they could reach our current military status within twenty years or so...but of course we will not remain stagnant. Military R&D is a constant with us.

They do have ICBM's but we outnumber them in that area by thousands.

So I repeat...pigshit.
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Ever see a larger animal get eaten by ants? Same thing. In numbers, we lose, and that's what it will come down to.
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LOL at your pigshit comment.

Hey, I'll be right there next to you fighting defending our great country if they ever invaded us (they wouldn't), but in any ground war, on any land, our troops against theirs, we would lose. I hate to say it, but we would.

We couldn't take Vietnam, we can't take Iraq and we sure as hell would have our assess handed to us by the Chinese if that day ever comes, and it may.

The ONLY chance in hell we may have is a serious preemptive strike against Chinese military targets in an attempt to cripple them before they moved on us. But common sense says we wouldn't dent their massive army in such a strike and would regret that move.
In regards to Vietnam...we could have ended that war in one day with the use of tactical nukes...we could have ended that war with sustained bombing of the North in thirty days (The proof is in the pudding. When President Nixon finally took the gloves off and ordered 24/7 sustained bombing of the North it only took eleven days to bring the North to the peace table and allowed for our withdrawal of our forces. Two years after we withdrew the Southern forces were defeated by the North.). We could have ended the war within ninety days with a ground invasion of the North.

Would we still have an occupying force their...I suspect that we would. Would we still be taking some casualties...I suspect we would.

In regards to Iraq...we defeated their military forces in twenty-four days. We have been an occupying force ever since. Will we succeed in stopping Iraqi's from killing one another...I suspect not. Can we prevent suicide bombers or IED's (The IED's have accounted for more than 70% of our casualties)...I suspect not. Will we succeed in establishing a stable government in Iraq...I suspect not. Why do I think we will not succeed...because our leader has been pussyfooting around and will not put the necessary force their to get the job done and the American people have lost confidence...so at some point we will withdraw.
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Ever see a larger animal get eaten by ants? Same thing. In numbers, we lose, and that's what it will come down to.
The Chinese ants do not have the capability to invade our country...we have the capability to invade their country...although we would not do so as their land mass is to large to occupy.
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True, but they might try invading another country to suck us into a fight.

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The fact that America borrows $4bn per day from China and is in debt of over $7 trillion to them kind of gives you a hint on who is the most powerfull.

If China foreclosed on American loans America wouldnt have the cash to buy weapons.
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The fact that America borrows $4bn per day from China and is in debt of over $7 trillion to them kind of gives you a hint on who is the most powerfull.

If China foreclosed on American loans America wouldnt have the cash to buy weapons.
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I actually think it's more American to say "BullShit" I could be wrong though.
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You say bullshit...I say pigshit. Shit is shit...is shit...is shit.
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I spent 12 years in the military before my career was ended...I come from a long line of ancestors that served in the military. I am and have been a student of war...most of my life. I stay current on the military capabilitites of countries around the world as well as current events. I possess god given common sense...have a reasonable IQ level (129 when in University) all of which provides me with a certain insight and expertise...and I am very much alive...thank you very much.
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we are only humans, but this is lame if pentagon dont have more gateways to cut the hackers out in time ... anyway its interesting to hear that after someone posted at gfy how safe and heavenly country usa is ;)
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I spent 12 years in the military before my career was ended...I come from a long line of ancestors that served in the military. I am and have been a student of war...most of my life. I stay current on the military capabilitites of countries around the world as well as current events. I possess god given common sense...have a reasonable IQ level (129 when in University) all of which provides me with a certain insight and expertise...and I am very much alive...thank you very much.
Of course pathfinder.....rip
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Pigshit. I am not now...nor have I ever been Pathfinder. Pathfinder died five years ago and if he were alive he would currently be 75...but it does not bother me to be called Pathfinder...as he was the greatest man I have ever personally known...so please carry on.
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I spent 12 years in the military before my career was ended...I come from a long line of ancestors that served in the military. I am and have been a student of war...most of my life. I stay current on the military capabilitites of countries around the world as well as current events. I possess god given common sense...have a reasonable IQ level (129 when in University) all of which provides me with a certain insight and expertise...and I am very much alive...thank you very much.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:20 AM   #38
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China may have more people, but America has a reason to fight. Will you sit back and watch china take away your freedom to work from home. You freedom to work in porn. It's not just the military that would be fighting for the US. its the people. The United states is the most armed country in the world. There are more guns in the US than any place else.

ON top of that. China knows that should they try to invade the US, the US would simply nuke China. And the bomb would most likely come from an airfield that was NOT inside the US. So the Navy that china sends would not have a chance in hell of stopping it.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:29 AM   #39
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stop buying at Wal-Mart and it all over for China.
its that simple.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:37 AM   #40
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And this is the same government that assures us that our privacy will be protected if we just allow them to set up more monstrous databases filled with increasing amounts of our personal information.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:46 AM   #41
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:03 AM   #42
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I love it how all americans brag about their strongest super army on the
planet.....yet they failed in vietnam, failed in Irak (twice), failed in Afghanistan
and can't find a terrorist riding a camel in the mountains.......
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:30 AM   #44
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America has never won a war on its own. The only victories America has ever had have been when they have either France or UK on their side. The moment either of these two countries pull out American soldiers enter body bags.
The truth is buddy that if the US wouldn't have stepped in you would be speaking German right now. HA!
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:31 AM   #45
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I love it how all americans brag about their strongest super army on the
planet.....yet they failed in vietnam, failed in Irak (twice), failed in Afghanistan
and can't find a terrorist riding a camel in the mountains.......
My comment above goes for you too. ^
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If we had the full support of the American people for Iraq, we might have a different ballgame over there in Iraq. The political infighting and partisanship has greatly weakened our country. Our enemy sees us divided, and exploits it.

China is not much different. The American people made a terrible choice in voting for Bill Clinton. China exploited this and made massive gains in stealing our military technology during Clinton's administration. Now our own weapons technology is pointed.. at us.

The American people need to make better choices, give up their gas guzzlers, give up their cheap Chinese products, and stand united. If and when our great country collapses, the blame will be with the citizens who made these terrible choices.
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:19 AM   #48
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Nixon and his pal, Chairman Mao:



Bush Sr and his pal, Zhao:



If theking's pigshit could fly, and DaddyNoBucks could buy a clue, they might see how simplistic and stupid their worldview is...

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If we ever go to war with China the whole world will change...
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