I officially refuse to sell exclusive Content in USD from now on!!! - GoFuckYourself.com

MaDalton · 09-20-2007, 08:59 AM

just a little example - numbers are not totally correct:

lets say a scene costs $1500, 3 years ago that were about 1300 euro. models costs about 500 euro

today that is 1070 euro - and the model costs went up to 650 euro

and then people complain why i dont shoot b/g scenes for 1000 bucks

from now on i will calculate my prices in euro - and the USD can go fuck itself

and btw - we're are booked until 2011 anyways - with euro clients

Corleone · 09-20-2007, 09:16 AM

makes sense mate.. eur is fucking high.. its insane..

Amputate Your Head · 09-20-2007, 09:18 AM

Europe will ultimately collapse as well. It's just a matter of time.

headless ghost · 09-20-2007, 09:20 AM

we don't care

Shap · 09-20-2007, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

just a little example - numbers are not totally correct:

lets say a scene costs $1500, 3 years ago that were about 1300 euro. models costs about 500 euro

today that is 1070 euro - and the model costs went up to 650 euro

and then people complain why i dont shoot b/g scenes for 1000 bucks

from now on i will calculate my prices in euro - and the USD can go fuck itself

and btw - we're are booked until 2011 anyways - with euro clients

I agree. It's scary in just a few years EURO producers went from having a huge price advantage to having a huge price disadvantage. Isn't it great when the US has a shitty president?

Trax · 09-20-2007, 09:21 AM

the 1.40 seriously starts to piss me off
the dollar is worthless and its not going to get better... just worse

MaDalton · 09-20-2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Europe will ultimately collapse as well. It's just a matter of time.

chances that the volcano you're sitting on will blow up are probably much higher

JFK · 09-20-2007, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Trax

the 1.40 seriously starts to piss me off
the dollar is worthless and its not going to get better... just worse

an unfortunate situation

Shap · 09-20-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

chances that the volcano you're sitting on will blow up are probably much higher

Solid comeback

wyldblyss · 09-20-2007, 09:42 AM

If things keep going the way they are, you can always accept Canadian dollars instead of U.S. hehe

JP-pornshooter · 09-20-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

I agree. It's scary in just a few years EURO producers went from having a huge price advantage to having a huge price disadvantage. Isn't it great when the US has a shitty president?

I will be happy to quote anyone prices for exclusive content in euro, us$, british sterling and even canadian $...

DaddyHalbucks · 09-20-2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Isn't it great when the US has a shitty president?

Isn't it great to have a President who can be blamed for every ill of society, no matter how trivial or tangential to his influence?

Amputate Your Head · 09-20-2007, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

chances that the volcano you're sitting on will blow up are probably much higher

but the effects of the volcano (death & destruction) will be fairly instantaneous, whereas the collapse of Europe will be a long drawn out misery.

u-Bob · 09-20-2007, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Trax

the dollar is worthless and its not going to get better... just worse

sad but true

Snake Doctor · 09-20-2007, 09:55 AM

Down with the euro

12clicks · 09-20-2007, 10:09 AM

hello, US content providers!

Lykos · 09-20-2007, 10:14 AM

That's very true you say bro...am thinking of doing the same...or just rise the price how dollar going down

Sausage · 09-20-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

chances that the volcano you're sitting on will blow up are probably much higher

Haha. 2 Thumbs up

uno · 09-20-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Isn't it great to have a President who can be blamed for every ill of society, no matter how trivial or tangential to his influence?

No, it isn't.

Violetta · 09-20-2007, 10:51 AM

usd suck.... Norwegian krone has gone up, us down.

Shoehorn! · 09-20-2007, 10:56 AM

I don't blame you.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-20-2007, 10:59 AM

Doesnt this make content production in the USA umm Cheaper?

LOL!

Penny24Seven · 09-20-2007, 11:03 AM

breaks my heart,

woj · 09-20-2007, 11:04 AM

funny thing is, only people outside of the US are bitching and whining, for service providers in the US (designers, content shooters, etc) business is as good as ever

stev0 · 09-20-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Isn't it great to have a President who can be blamed for every ill of society, no matter how trivial or tangential to his influence?

Eight years of bad decisions and bad planning helped crash the dollar, some were the presidents fault and many were completely unrelated. He's pretty much been printing out money to cover his little 500 billion dollar war project, that's one big reason we can pin on him.

stev0 · 09-20-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

funny thing is, only people outside of the US are bitching and whining, for service providers in the US (designers, content shooters, etc) business is as good as ever

Cheaper for us to buy those services now too ;) Although our paycheques are less... We're going to see a lot of rising prices in the US very soon on imported goods, and the US imports a hell of a lot.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-20-2007, 11:23 AM

I do not think many of you understand economics and politics.

RawAlex · 09-20-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Europe will ultimately collapse as well. It's just a matter of time.

Sorry, but I think you are wrong on this one.

It isn't that the Euro is strong, as it is relatively in the same place against most other major currencies in the world. The issue is that the US dollar has dropped like a stone in value against 15 or so of the most widely traded currencies.

It isn't a European issue, it is a US issue.

frank7799 · 09-20-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

just a little example - numbers are not totally correct:

lets say a scene costs $1500, 3 years ago that were about 1300 euro. models costs about 500 euro

today that is 1070 euro - and the model costs went up to 650 euro

and then people complain why i dont shoot b/g scenes for 1000 bucks

from now on i will calculate my prices in euro - and the USD can go fuck itself

and btw - we're are booked until 2011 anyways - with euro clients

You are in the same boat with Mercedes Benz.

frank7799 · 09-20-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Doesnt this make content production in the USA umm Cheaper?

LOL!

It won´t affect uS productions at all, as long as they are working in the uS completely. if they go abroad and hire some European talent and maybe do the shooting there, they will have the same problem as Stefan has.

directfiesta · 09-20-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

I do not think many of you understand economics and politics.

be my teacher .....

PornMogul · 09-20-2007, 12:13 PM

the dollar will go back up, its just in a slump

Snake Doctor · 09-20-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

funny thing is, only people outside of the US are bitching and whining, for service providers in the US (designers, content shooters, etc) business is as good as ever

This is true.

As long as your assets and liabilities are in the same currency then the fluctuations don't matter....so long as inflation at home is tame.

This only hurts the people who have to convert their money when they do business.

MaDalton · 09-20-2007, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Solid comeback

hehe - thanks

and people say i wasted my time on GFY

teomaxxx · 09-20-2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

funny thing is, only people outside of the US are bitching and whining, for service providers in the US (designers, content shooters, etc) business is as good as ever

few months later, every US webmaster will be bitching here about rising inflation.
low US dollar will push prices of commodities up, 90 bucks a barel of oil is on the way for sure.

webgurl · 09-20-2007, 12:25 PM

sorry didn't read thru all the posts but what about our CND currency
u accept that ?

xmas13 · 09-20-2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx

few months later, every US webmaster will be bitching here about rising inflation.
low US dollar will push prices of commodities up, 90 bucks a barel of oil is on the way for sure.

Yes, you got it.

Axeman · 09-20-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

I agree. It's scary in just a few years EURO producers went from having a huge price advantage to having a huge price disadvantage. Isn't it great when the US has a shitty president?

Isn't that the truth.

teomaxxx · 09-20-2007, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

This is true.

As long as your assets and liabilities are in the same currency then the fluctuations don't matter....so long as inflation at home is tame.

This only hurts the people who have to convert their money when they do business.

Even the biggest crock Greenspan, who caused whole situation by lowering interest rates to 1%, was against rate cut, exactly because of : "inflation and recession" .
Average Joe is the one who will pay the rate cut hardly, thats for sure.

Axeman · 09-20-2007, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Doesnt this make content production in the USA umm Cheaper?

LOL!

If we all billed in Euros it would. But most of the industry bills in US$ so its the same.

Axeman · 09-20-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

This is true.

As long as your assets and liabilities are in the same currency then the fluctuations don't matter....so long as inflation at home is tame.

This only hurts the people who have to convert their money when they do business.

That is true but inflation is coming. Cost to import is rising and those costs will be passed on to the consumer guaranteed.

OzMan · 09-20-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

chances that the volcano you're sitting on will blow up are probably much higher

Well not really. Europe has "collapsed" many times over the last couple thousand years from wars, disease, famine etc and the volcano on Maui where I think Amp lives has only erupted once in that time back in the 1600's.

MaDalton · 09-20-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman

Isn't that the truth.

unfortunately it's a bit more complicated now. of course i understand a client who says "he, i always paid that much, why is it my problem now?". but in the current situation exclusive production at the same prices than 3 years ago makes absolutely no sense for us anymore. i'm not working my ass off for 100 bucks a day - and no one of you would do that either. it's sad, but blame Mr. Bush for running the US economy down the shitter (see http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...881433621.html for example)

and i also can't go to the girls and tell them that they will be paid in USD now - they might be models, but they are not that stupid

Snake Doctor · 09-20-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman

That is true but inflation is coming. Cost to import is rising and those costs will be passed on to the consumer guaranteed.

Well we've seen energy prices more than double and haven't had an inflation problem.

China's currency is pegged to ours, so when ours goes down so does theirs...so no inflation from Chinese imports either.

I really don't see an inflation problem or a recession in the next 12 months, and these are things I watch very very closely.

just a punk · 09-20-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

I officially refuse to sell exclusive Content in USD from now on!!!

Just one question, Stefan. Is that FOR REAL?

Snake Doctor · 09-20-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx

Even the biggest crock Greenspan, who caused whole situation by lowering interest rates to 1%, was against rate cut, exactly because of : "inflation and recession" .
Average Joe is the one who will pay the rate cut hardly, thats for sure.

The fact that you think Greenspan is a crock, combined with the fact that you can't put together intelligible sentences in English, disqualifies you from this conversation.

MaxCandy · 09-20-2007, 12:55 PM

I am happy to work for any currency, every job is quoted separately anyway.

Zyber · 09-20-2007, 01:22 PM

When the US inflation really kicks in paysites have the perfect excuse to increase the membership prices from the current $29.95/month to $34.95 USD/month.

Don't worry about the dollar losing value. The Federal Reserve will simply print more money to compensate for it - as they have done the last 30+ years.

The bubble will not burst - it would cause a global collapse so most countries will do all to keep the dollar artificially up.

MaDalton · 09-20-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Just one question, Stefan. Is that FOR REAL?

yes - the shop will be still in USD, but the scenes we shoot exclusively are mostly in a similar scheme (unlike Max Candy

) - and i know what my costs are. and i know what i need to get to make this worthwhile for us.

as i said: i don't need new clients for exclusive content, i have the freedom to accept whatever makes sense for us

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-20-2007, 01:31 PM

if you don't like the USD stance, either stop doing business with US customers, or stfu and move to USA because its getting sickning seeing 100 threads every day "ZOMG THE USD IS SHITTY, LASTERYEAR I WAS MAKING $16000 FOR EVERY $1000USD I GOT AND NOW IM GETTING $7000 FOR THE SAME AMOUNT!!!! FIX THE USD!!!"

fuck you, karma is a bitch, while you were cashing in on our money because it was higher then yours, now you're paying back what you took with our dollar being lower now

stfu and get over it jesus fucking christ

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MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,829	I officially refuse to sell exclusive Content in USD from now on!!! just a little example - numbers are not totally correct: lets say a scene costs $1500, 3 years ago that were about 1300 euro. models costs about 500 euro today that is 1070 euro - and the model costs went up to 650 euro and then people complain why i dont shoot b/g scenes for 1000 bucks from now on i will calculate my prices in euro - and the USD can go fuck itself and btw - we're are booked until 2011 anyways - with euro clients __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

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Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE MOBILE PORN: IMOBILEPORN Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Tinseltown NL Posts: 16,502	if you don't like the USD stance, either stop doing business with US customers, or stfu and move to USA because its getting sickning seeing 100 threads every day "ZOMG THE USD IS SHITTY, LASTERYEAR I WAS MAKING $16000 FOR EVERY $1000USD I GOT AND NOW IM GETTING $7000 FOR THE SAME AMOUNT!!!! FIX THE USD!!!" fuck you, karma is a bitch, while you were cashing in on our money because it was higher then yours, now you're paying back what you took with our dollar being lower now stfu and get over it jesus fucking christ