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Old 10-06-2007, 02:33 AM   #1
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Banned countries

We have some strange activity on our promo server (fhg, fhs, etc.). Bandwidth was +300% for last 7 days but signups volume stay as week ago. As 1st idea ? we ban shitty counries, who never pay just watching and eat bandwidth.

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@banned_countries = ( 'AI', 'AR', 'AZ', 'BD', 'BH', 'BY', 'BR', 'CO', 'CL', 'CN', 'CR', 'CU', 'HR', 'HK', 'DO', 'EG', 'IN', 'ID', 'IR', 'JM', 'JO', 'KE', 'KG', 'KW', 'KR', 'KZ', 'LB', 'LY', 'MA', 'MK', 'NP', 'PK', 'PE', 'PL', 'PH', 'PL', 'RO', 'RU', 'SG', 'LK', 'TH', 'UA', 'UY', 'VE', 'VN', 'YU' ,'ZA' ,'ZR', 'ZW' );
Total 49 countries. Any ideas about more countries?





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Old 10-06-2007, 03:08 AM   #2
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:18 AM   #3
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49 countries, that is a lot

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Old 10-06-2007, 03:26 AM   #4
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all eastern europe? lol
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:36 AM   #5
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Just a guess, but perhaps your marketing is off a bit Ed / CzCash?

Sounds like good traffic just little or no conversions...

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Old 10-06-2007, 03:54 AM   #6
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That's good that I do not promote you
But you should ban .CZ too ! Will be 50 !
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:05 AM   #7
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Add LT (Lithuania). Lots of fraud there.
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:12 AM   #8
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Ban what you can't market to or process for, interesting technique.
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:30 AM   #9
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:05 AM   #10
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Total 49 countries. Any ideas about more countries?

How the hell you can forget Nigeria?
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Old 10-06-2007, 05:58 AM   #11
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there are some countries on that list that CAN pay for watching. imho, it's not so good decision...
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:28 AM   #12
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Man another place where my country is banned(Macedonia-MK).This is too much why you banned whole country when you have a problem with just 1-2 person.
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:22 AM   #13
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That's good that I do not promote you
But you should ban .CZ too ! Will be 50 !
Actually we have 2 servers, and 49 countries from this list watch promo from cheap server, located in Europe. We just try split people who really pay from people who just watch and go to password sites after watching.
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:26 AM   #14
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Man another place where my country is banned(Macedonia-MK).This is too much why you banned whole country when you have a problem with just 1-2 person.
For more than 7 years I have 0 (zero) sales from Macedonia. Do you think this is not a rule?
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:30 AM   #15
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How the hell you can forget Nigeria?
he-he, thanks. Nigerian bastards are banned too.
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:35 AM   #16
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there are some countries on that list that CAN pay for watching. imho, it's not so good decision...
You mean via dialer or something like NoCreditCard.com ? We use GXBill and some phone solutions for these 49 countries but actually we have calls only from RU, CR and TH.
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Old 10-06-2007, 11:07 AM   #17
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Interesting thing to do.. it's smart in a way, and not at the same time.. I'm still trying to decide.. lol
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:50 PM   #18
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wow! those are quite huge number of banned countries...
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:50 PM   #19
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why not just analyze the log files to see where the extra traffic is coming from?
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TR (turkey) is missing on the list, loads of fraud !
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:03 PM   #21
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Israel. never had one from israel.
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If you are running a program that can only bill to CCs, then yeah, you need to be blocking out these countries. If the end users can't buy, why give away samples?
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all asian countries banned.....................quite a list
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You mean via dialer or something like NoCreditCard.com ? We use GXBill and some phone solutions for these 49 countries but actually we have calls only from RU, CR and TH.
Hey there Ed, our global phone billing solution delivers 100% global billing reach for all countries as these realtime stats bear witness : http://www.password-by-phone.com/realstats.php

As you can see, the payouts vary from $.50 to $10 depending on the surfer's country.

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why not just analyze the log files to see where the extra traffic is coming from?
Some suffers sent by webmasters.
Some bastards from bbs (where any other countries excl. CN banned).
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:33 AM   #27
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there are some countries on that list that CAN pay for watching. imho, it's not so good decision...
I agree.
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:46 AM   #28
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why you better not track what are those 300&#37; doing on your server? you can target better what to ban and what not
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That is a big list
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Well, there's another problem with blacklisting those countries.
There are many worldwide webmasters who can try to promote your sites
on different markets (US/UK/Western Europe - by submitting galleries,
placing your FHGs on their TGPs etc.). By banning them from your servers
you practically tell them to go away...
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Well, there's another problem with blacklisting those countries.
There are many worldwide webmasters who can try to promote your sites
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placing your FHGs on their TGPs etc.). By banning them from your servers
you practically tell them to go away...
You mean, webmasters from China? TGP owners from Egypt? Linklist owner from Vietnam?
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You mean, webmasters from China? TGP owners from Egypt? Linklist owner from Vietnam?
carders from turkey? Traffic theives from... wait, some of those are from the US.
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Old 10-07-2007, 05:20 PM   #34
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Why the negative approach? Instead of banned countries make a list of countries you allow, should be no more than 12.
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be sure to mention that in your TOS.
What he said.

Also, redirect based on IP.
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You mean, webmasters from China? TGP owners from Egypt? Linklist owner from Vietnam?
I am a webmaster from one of those countries you banned.
Good thing I do not promote your program.
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Old 10-07-2007, 07:09 PM   #37
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Jeez, processing an array for an IP's GeoIP country for all traffic is just about as wasteful as the freeloaders. It's a small enough list. Load the GeoIP DB and your banned list into SHM and just 403/redirect based upon that.

Actually, you could do that almost-natively with mod_geoip, now that I think about it.

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      RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.google.com$1 [L]
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Yeah, that should do it.
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send that traffic off to some place. can do something with it. ;)
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Oops. Just noticed my joke code (anything not US or CA) doesn't work. That [OR] is becoming a NOR due to my !test for CA. Take out the '[OR]'.
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