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10-07-2007, 09:11 PM
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Who's behind Chio and VerifiedCharge.com? i.e. Why should we trust them?
Waaaayyyyyyy back when Chio first mentioned that he was going to develop this alternative to ePass, this issue was raised and Chio said he would come out and let everyone know who was involved, what their background was etc. etc. etc. so we could figure out if they were "trustworthy"... I've been away for a few days and notice things seemed to have opened up at least in some limited way...
So where's the disclosure about who's going to be holding onto everyone's money? Who are these people and what are their backgrounds? |
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10-07-2007, 09:35 PM
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He has answered some in the thread. Money would be held by BOA up to FDIC 100,000 per account if I recall. As in a real bank and the security of it.
Only people who deffinatly will stay way the fuck away are the mass tax dodgers who think epass offers them enough invisability from the IRS that they are safe in the US if they just use an ATM. Which of course is about 75% of gfy's small to average US webmasters.
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10-07-2007, 09:41 PM
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Chio is trustworthy and has solid references.
I will let him reply though, it's not my business to list off what he's done. |
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10-07-2007, 09:47 PM
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He does a good pirate imitation and seems like a smart cat.I'm sure it will all come out eventually and people will make their own decisions.The toughest part is getting people to trust the company
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10-07-2007, 09:53 PM
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10-07-2007, 10:09 PM
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I'm still put off by the lie Chio made when he said he sold the autoblogger company to Edgeprod. It was apparently done so he could skip out of supporting the original versions of autoblogger.
Poor customer support is what did in epass, it is going to take some convincing to get onboard to this new program. |
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10-07-2007, 10:15 PM
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10-07-2007, 10:27 PM
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10-07-2007, 10:33 PM
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10-07-2007, 10:46 PM
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10-07-2007, 10:47 PM
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I just hope that VC will make it and become a new industry standard....
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10-07-2007, 10:51 PM
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10-07-2007, 11:13 PM
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So, If I read this correctly ( I'm not 100% sober right now) it seems Chio helped edgeprod bully cyberxxx by lying for him about buying FeedPushers... ? |
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10-07-2007, 11:25 PM
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what makes you trust epass/paypal with your money?
you can ask that question about any company who do monetary volume with.. VC is going to become standard. IMO you made this thread with an preconceived agenda of slander. |
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10-07-2007, 11:25 PM
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10-07-2007, 11:27 PM
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10-07-2007, 11:30 PM
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10-08-2007, 02:16 AM
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10-08-2007, 02:21 AM
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I dont know Chio or any other pirates for that matter.. but if he metioned BOA (Bank of America (sucks hairy ass)).. they are not very adult friendly... I wonder how this will play out....
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10-08-2007, 03:09 AM
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Any processing or money mover is a good thing.
I hope Verified Charge fill's in the gaps others have failed in. Good luck CHio and Co.
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10-08-2007, 03:23 AM
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Yes I also agree and think BOFA suck drippy tranny dick, and many assorted branches shitcan adult webmasters while others are perfectly fine with them all the time. I have not spoken to chio in a few days and not sure what is lined up in the UK end (he may have mentioned it). Though if given a choice behind a FDIC insured bank and some offshore company with a suck it and like it attitude, I know where I would place my risk at. Please notice I did say risk, it all is a risk to some degree. Many feel you should ATM your money out of epass the second it comes in. Others do not use epass at all, then some keep money in their. I am the latter of those, I guess cause I do not have an ATM and I just use it to pay people for work. If it builds up beyond a set point that I deam is my personal risk level I trade it over for some paypal and pull it out. This coming from someone who has lost money from ibill, adultcheck, westside billing, globill, and a few others that are escaping my mind right now.
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and to the OP...you shouldn't trust them...you should do exactly what it sounds like you're doing...due diligence. |
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10-08-2007, 12:46 PM
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10-08-2007, 09:59 PM
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Since most of the questions were answered in my previous replies in the other thread as well as by people in this thread I'll address the support issue.
We are still in beta but at launch our plan for support is simple. Will will have an 800 number in the US as well as free phone numbers in Europe for customers, and clients to reach us in the event of any concerns or problems. Additionally we have a full ticket support system where all tickets are answered within 24 hours and at launch we expect to bring the times down considerably. The plan for launch in regards to support is as wait time increase on the 800#to more than an average of 5 minutes we will add additional support staff. Also I'd like to mention... I've said it before but it bears repeating we will NOT accept gambling sites for any reason. Thanks to everyone for the kind words.
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10-08-2007, 10:19 PM
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I have never had a problem using Bank of America for adult, either with online businesses or physical stores. The vast majority of adult bookstores I ran used Bank of America openly with zero problems. If they dumped Epass it was strictly because of online gambling, which they will close your account for in a second if they catch you. I really have to question what was going on for anyone to have had a problem with them accepting adult businesses...
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Bump for full disclosure...
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All three adult bookstores and the nightclub I ran in Memphis, Tn used Bank of America openly with no problems. I also have a Bank of America account that I have never had a problem using for adult...
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10-09-2007, 03:05 PM
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I'm looking forward to opportunities this new system will present...
Any word on working with nats for either members or affiliates side yet? Very very interested in that case...
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I trust nobody with my money but you have no choice sometimes...
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Didn't BOA also dump silvercash?
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Sorry for the delay in responding we have been extremely busy as you can imagine.
To answer your questions Verifiedcharge/payagent are owned by my company and I have only one other partner in this business (he's a developer/friend that has worked with me nearly 10 years). We are based in Florida and also have operations in the UK and hope to expand to other regions as we grow. As most of you know this is something I've been working on for a long time and to finally be in beta is very exciting. I'll take this post to also mention that we should have epass like debit cards (will work internationally too) within a few weeks. This is great news for all that were waiting on this. As always if anyone has any questions or concerns you can reach me via ICQ (in location) or through the vc support system.
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When will we be able to get ATM cards ?. At the moment I have funds being sent to the verifiedcharge that I cannot access till I get a card as I'm in Australia as your system says it only sends to US bank accounts. When and where will we be informed of changes ?. I see no sense in continuing to send my earnings to a system that has no way for me to withdraw my funds and no time frame for change. It's a pity Epic Cash did not mention this when they suggested it affiliates use VerifiedCharge instead of Epassporte. |
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