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DigitalDruid · 10-30-2007, 12:15 PM

I?m brand new to this site and the business side of this industry to be honest but found my way here never the less
I?ve been shooting pin up style photo/video for the last 8 years as a hobby (fetish) with no intent on ever making a career of it. But the last few months I?ve been drawn to the idea that I may have skills in this trade that could possibly pay the bills and get me doing what I?m so passionate about on a daily basis. I have been studying the content on the big sites relating to my particular niche over the years and watching them grow and evolve has given me a deep appreciation for the industry as a whole, at the same time its shown me my work stacks up to what they produce only they are making a living with it. I?ve amassed all the studio equipment already and have spent thousands on fetish gear and sets around the house. I have also got a few models on hand willing to shoot a couple times a week and finding more has never been a problem for me as I?m still young enough that I don?t look like a pervert

. The problem is I have no idea where to start, thus my reason for posting here. I can supply exclusive content on a regular basis to anyone that can market it but reading through the posts here there doesn?t seem to be any money in it after all the costs involved to get the 100-200 pics and 30-60 min HD video you will get almost exactly what you paid for it (models ect). Setting up a site would seem like the right decision but then you need to spend months of time and thousands of dollars just getting the content you need to open the doors of your site for the first time. It looks like a closed door trying to break into the adult industry but at the same time if you look just under the surface you see people making it with a lot less you just cant seem to find them to go for a beer and talk about it

I have great respect for you guys and the trials and tribulations you must conquer on a daily basis to succeed in this game.
Please don?t flame me, I?m praying someone may have something positive to say.

tranza · 10-30-2007, 12:21 PM

Any samples of these pics??

F-U-Jimmy · 10-30-2007, 12:22 PM

Move along there is no money in PORN

dready · 10-30-2007, 12:28 PM

Post samples please

DigitalDruid · 10-30-2007, 12:36 PM

This post isnt meant for advertising what i have for sale, Im looking for advice.

Chris · 10-30-2007, 12:53 PM

you can make money by selling content
do exclusive and non exclusive

if you dont think you will make money doing exclusive content then you need to rethink your pricing structure so that you do make money

we are not here doing this for fun. We do this to make money so tehre must be money to be made =)

as far as you saying it will take thousands just to open your pay site

well ..it takes money to make money in this game bro

but keep up the good work.

How about selling non exclusive content packages? can easily make your money back and then plus some

DigitalDruid · 10-31-2007, 09:56 AM

Im tossing the idea around to sell semi exclusive content till i can have someone build me a turnkey site then move everything there. But what constitutes "semi" exclusive?

Chong · 10-31-2007, 10:00 AM

perhaps you could leave some contact nfo

DigitalDruid · 10-31-2007, 10:07 AM

Honestly any info to get the ball rolling would help alot.

B_Maverick · 10-31-2007, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalDruid

Honestly any info to get the ball rolling would help alot.

Post some contact info...like an ICQ or email addy.

DigitalDruid · 10-31-2007, 10:39 AM

My email is hustler666_AThotmail.com

pornguy · 10-31-2007, 10:44 AM

as far as taking thousads to open a pay site. the MOST expensive part is the content. If you already have that and it is 2257 compliant, then you just need a design and processing.

DigitalDruid · 10-31-2007, 10:47 AM

Thats where im at right now, Looking for a turn key site to put it all on, But i dont have content enough to start with.Thats where the thousands and another month will come from.

Ditosta · 10-31-2007, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalDruid

Thats where im at right now, Looking for a turn key site to put it all on, But i dont have content enough to start with.Thats where the thousands and another month will come from.

You email bounced, Can you hit me up?

Rhinopays {at} gmail.com

thanks

Ditosta · 10-31-2007, 10:54 AM

double post

Ditosta · 10-31-2007, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalDruid

Thats where im at right now, Looking for a turn key site to put it all on, But i dont have content enough to start with.Thats where the thousands and another month will come from.

Your email bounced, Can you hit me up?

Rhinopays {at} gmail.com

thanks

Barefootsies · 10-31-2007, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

as far as taking thousads to open a pay site. the MOST expensive part is the content. If you already have that and it is 2257 compliant, then you just need a design and processing.

Listen to this man as he is spot on.

The hardest part is done. Content. You need a site, processing, and to learn some promotion tactics.

But it will still take hard work. Time and money.

DigitalDruid · 10-31-2007, 11:09 AM

email sent and is up and running, dont know why it didnt work.
All of you thanks for the advice, Im digging like a MF with every post you put up.
Time and money i have at the moment (both come and go), Im just trying to figure out the steps to get this thing going.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-31-2007, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalDruid

email sent and is up and running, dont know why it didnt work.
All of you thanks for the advice, Im digging like a MF with every post you put up.
Time and money i have at the moment (both come and go), Im just trying to figure out the steps to get this thing going.

ICQ me

lets work together

Ditosta · 10-31-2007, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalDruid

email sent and is up and running, dont know why it didnt work.
All of you thanks for the advice, Im digging like a MF with every post you put up.
Time and money i have at the moment (both come and go), Im just trying to figure out the steps to get this thing going.

Still waiting! I tried again and it bounced again
[email protected] ?

DigitalDruid · 10-31-2007, 02:21 PM

Its hustler666_AThotmail.com <underscore before @
Thanks for the help guys, I just want to start somewhere and i dont mind making other people money if im getting paid

JOKER · 10-31-2007, 02:49 PM

Looks like you've got the right attitude and motivation to get things going in the right direction - and understand, I barely say that to people.

It's good to see some newcomers with obvious potential

Read more - figure things out mostly on your own, learn the rest of the skillset and most important - make lots of good contacts, be wary though as there are many bad apples in this business and you don't want to find out the hard way about it

I'm sure we'll hear from you again in a little while, either joining the ranks of the high-end content producers or with your very own exclusive pay-site

Keep it up!

GAMEFINEST · 10-31-2007, 03:01 PM

hard work , good contacts, and dedication...

Cash · 10-31-2007, 10:48 PM

Welcome to GFY

Sebastian Sands · 10-31-2007, 10:56 PM

Contact Martin from http://www.club-xstream.com he can help you get good cash if you're looking to sell non-exclusive sets.

Tell him the Dutch guy from vegas sent you.

Sebastian

rapmaster · 10-31-2007, 11:02 PM

If you've never done any web stuff before, setting up a site can be a daunting task.

Plus, running a business can be difficult too. You also have to worry about marketing, keeping good books, etc.

You should partner with someone who knows what they're doing.

The folks at aWiz have a really affordable CMS, and they provide complete template design services for pretty damn cheap. I've been happy with their work and I'm sure you could work something out with them.

Also, setting up an affiliate program is expensive.

good luck with it

After Shock Media · 10-31-2007, 11:12 PM

rapmaster, do you have a few minutes?

Oh original poster, I will gladly talk with you and point you toward any info you may need. Only motivation is the possibility you might make it and I get another contact.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-31-2007, 11:13 PM

SO post some samples.

ztik · 10-31-2007, 11:18 PM

You could start your site bassicly for free if you have the content

You could jump start your biz alot faster with some big people behind you. Try to do this on your own from a start and you have alot of rough work ahead of you. Have someone help you and study and watch then break off on your own. To do that you'll need to post some samples though

L-Pink · 10-31-2007, 11:26 PM

Another important task. 2257 ... Please do searches and read the current requirements. Specifically the parts about your companies place of business and hours of operation required each week.

Seriously, for a single person content producer/site owner this really sucks.

calibra · 10-31-2007, 11:52 PM

Hi and welcome! And post some samples.

L-Pink · 11-01-2007, 04:36 AM

bump .....

L-Pink · 11-01-2007, 07:47 AM

help you out one more time

Gompo · 11-01-2007, 07:51 AM

useless without pics

SilentKnight · 11-01-2007, 03:04 PM

We've been in the bdsm/fetish niche for over a decade, producing our own original content and operating several financially successful paysites.

Sounds like you've cleared the first major hurdle - investing in your gear, models and having your content.

The next obstacle is marketing it and gathering momentum. And that'll take a lot of time and effort. Getting together with a knowledgeable and experienced partner is a fast-track, but can easily lead to problems and frustrations farther down the road if/when a power struggle takes place. My advice is be VERY careful who you choose to partner up with if you decide to go this route. There are a lot of not-so-ethical people out there more than willing to take you for a ride and unfairly capitalize on your hard work.

Take some time and learn how to build your own paysite and get some affordable hosting (we currently use www.canaca.ca and have found them to be excellent and reasonably priced).

Check out Verotel or CCBill for processing.

Get some reciprocal links going with as many other quality fetish-oriented websites as you can. Get involved in TGP promotions. Join forums that cater to bdsm/fetish photographers and webmasters and make contacts. Consider attending and exhibiting your work at conventions such as FetishCon (Florida) or Bondcon (Vegas). Market yourself with the same enthusiasm you have when shooting the content. Work on building a respectable search engine ranking. Develop a unique style or brand for your work - try and come up with an angle no one else has already done a thousand times.

Its all in the momentum. It ain't gonna happen overnight, though. Aside from the monetary investment, it'll take time, diligence and perseverence.

And as the chorus says - post some samples.

DigitalDruid · 11-02-2007, 02:23 AM

My icq is up and running, Thanks for all the help guys. Im working on samples but didnt anticipate the 2257. Im in canada and my lawyer never mentioned doing them aswell as the release forms he made for me. Dont want my first screw up to be on my first post is all.

kmanrox · 11-02-2007, 05:11 AM

fuckin 'a', post some samples already

10-30-2007, 12:15 PM	#1
DigitalDruid Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 647	NewBie with original content and No direction I?m brand new to this site and the business side of this industry to be honest but found my way here never the less I?ve been shooting pin up style photo/video for the last 8 years as a hobby (fetish) with no intent on ever making a career of it. But the last few months I?ve been drawn to the idea that I may have skills in this trade that could possibly pay the bills and get me doing what I?m so passionate about on a daily basis. I have been studying the content on the big sites relating to my particular niche over the years and watching them grow and evolve has given me a deep appreciation for the industry as a whole, at the same time its shown me my work stacks up to what they produce only they are making a living with it. I?ve amassed all the studio equipment already and have spent thousands on fetish gear and sets around the house. I have also got a few models on hand willing to shoot a couple times a week and finding more has never been a problem for me as I?m still young enough that I don?t look like a pervert . The problem is I have no idea where to start, thus my reason for posting here. I can supply exclusive content on a regular basis to anyone that can market it but reading through the posts here there doesn?t seem to be any money in it after all the costs involved to get the 100-200 pics and 30-60 min HD video you will get almost exactly what you paid for it (models ect). Setting up a site would seem like the right decision but then you need to spend months of time and thousands of dollars just getting the content you need to open the doors of your site for the first time. It looks like a closed door trying to break into the adult industry but at the same time if you look just under the surface you see people making it with a lot less you just cant seem to find them to go for a beer and talk about it I have great respect for you guys and the trials and tribulations you must conquer on a daily basis to succeed in this game. Please don?t flame me, I?m praying someone may have something positive to say.

10-30-2007, 12:21 PM	#2
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Any samples of these pics?? __________________ I'm just a newbie.

10-30-2007, 12:22 PM	#3
F-U-Jimmy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Visiting a city near you soon ! Posts: 6,853	Move along there is no money in PORN __________________ icq. 176240424 44.years as a pornographer !!!!!!!!!!!

10-30-2007, 12:28 PM	#4
dready Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5,247	Post samples please __________________ ICQ: 91139591

10-30-2007, 12:53 PM	#6
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	you can make money by selling content do exclusive and non exclusive if you dont think you will make money doing exclusive content then you need to rethink your pricing structure so that you do make money we are not here doing this for fun. We do this to make money so tehre must be money to be made =) as far as you saying it will take thousands just to open your pay site well ..it takes money to make money in this game bro but keep up the good work. How about selling non exclusive content packages? can easily make your money back and then plus some __________________ [email protected]

10-30-2007, 12:36 PM	#5
DigitalDruid Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 647	This post isnt meant for advertising what i have for sale, Im looking for advice.

10-31-2007, 09:56 AM	#7
DigitalDruid Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 647	Im tossing the idea around to sell semi exclusive content till i can have someone build me a turnkey site then move everything there. But what constitutes "semi" exclusive?

10-31-2007, 10:00 AM	#8
Chong Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 1,584	perhaps you could leave some contact nfo

10-31-2007, 10:07 AM	#9
DigitalDruid Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 647	Honestly any info to get the ball rolling would help alot. __________________ Get on here and make some ca$h

10-31-2007, 10:39 AM	#11
DigitalDruid Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 647	My email is hustler666_AThotmail.com

10-31-2007, 10:44 AM	#12
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	as far as taking thousads to open a pay site. the MOST expensive part is the content. If you already have that and it is 2257 compliant, then you just need a design and processing. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

10-31-2007, 10:47 AM	#13
DigitalDruid Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 647	Thats where im at right now, Looking for a turn key site to put it all on, But i dont have content enough to start with.Thats where the thousands and another month will come from.

10-31-2007, 10:54 AM	#15
Ditosta Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: http://www.neonasty.com Posts: 2,107	double post __________________ 306213883 New Pantyhose Fetish Model LilyDouce.com Rhinopays.com Last edited by Ditosta; 10-31-2007 at 10:56 AM..

10-31-2007, 11:09 AM	#18
DigitalDruid Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 647	email sent and is up and running, dont know why it didnt work. All of you thanks for the advice, Im digging like a MF with every post you put up. Time and money i have at the moment (both come and go), Im just trying to figure out the steps to get this thing going.

10-31-2007, 02:21 PM	#21
DigitalDruid Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 647	Its hustler666_AThotmail.com <underscore before @ Thanks for the help guys, I just want to start somewhere and i dont mind making other people money if im getting paid

10-31-2007, 02:49 PM	#22
JOKER Facit Omnia Voluntas Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Offshore Posts: 2,105	Looks like you've got the right attitude and motivation to get things going in the right direction - and understand, I barely say that to people. It's good to see some newcomers with obvious potential Read more - figure things out mostly on your own, learn the rest of the skillset and most important - make lots of good contacts, be wary though as there are many bad apples in this business and you don't want to find out the hard way about it I'm sure we'll hear from you again in a little while, either joining the ranks of the high-end content producers or with your very own exclusive pay-site Keep it up! __________________ Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing Skype: jokerempire \| Silent Circle: joker

10-31-2007, 03:01 PM	#23
GAMEFINEST Make STACK$ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: sexy time Posts: 14,436	hard work , good contacts, and dedication... __________________ Compound interest.

10-31-2007, 10:48 PM	#24
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10-31-2007, 10:56 PM	#25
Sebastian Sands Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ICQ: 211-417-740 Posts: 5,223	Contact Martin from http://www.club-xstream.com he can help you get good cash if you're looking to sell non-exclusive sets. Tell him the Dutch guy from vegas sent you. Sebastian

10-31-2007, 11:02 PM	#26
rapmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,576	If you've never done any web stuff before, setting up a site can be a daunting task. Plus, running a business can be difficult too. You also have to worry about marketing, keeping good books, etc. You should partner with someone who knows what they're doing. The folks at aWiz have a really affordable CMS, and they provide complete template design services for pretty damn cheap. I've been happy with their work and I'm sure you could work something out with them. Also, setting up an affiliate program is expensive. good luck with it __________________ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P226

10-31-2007, 11:12 PM	#27
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	rapmaster, do you have a few minutes? Oh original poster, I will gladly talk with you and point you toward any info you may need. Only motivation is the possibility you might make it and I get another contact. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

10-31-2007, 11:13 PM	#28
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	SO post some samples. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

10-31-2007, 11:18 PM	#29
ztik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad Posts: 5,196	You could start your site bassicly for free if you have the content You could jump start your biz alot faster with some big people behind you. Try to do this on your own from a start and you have alot of rough work ahead of you. Have someone help you and study and watch then break off on your own. To do that you'll need to post some samples though __________________ .

10-31-2007, 11:26 PM	#30
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	Another important task. 2257 ... Please do searches and read the current requirements. Specifically the parts about your companies place of business and hours of operation required each week. Seriously, for a single person content producer/site owner this really sucks.

10-31-2007, 11:52 PM	#31
calibra Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,357	Hi and welcome! And post some samples. __________________ GetCyberCash.com

11-01-2007, 04:36 AM	#32
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	bump .....

11-01-2007, 07:47 AM	#33
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	help you out one more time

11-01-2007, 07:51 AM	#34
Gompo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 133	useless without pics __________________

11-01-2007, 03:04 PM	#35
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	We've been in the bdsm/fetish niche for over a decade, producing our own original content and operating several financially successful paysites. Sounds like you've cleared the first major hurdle - investing in your gear, models and having your content. The next obstacle is marketing it and gathering momentum. And that'll take a lot of time and effort. Getting together with a knowledgeable and experienced partner is a fast-track, but can easily lead to problems and frustrations farther down the road if/when a power struggle takes place. My advice is be VERY careful who you choose to partner up with if you decide to go this route. There are a lot of not-so-ethical people out there more than willing to take you for a ride and unfairly capitalize on your hard work. Take some time and learn how to build your own paysite and get some affordable hosting (we currently use www.canaca.ca and have found them to be excellent and reasonably priced). Check out Verotel or CCBill for processing. Get some reciprocal links going with as many other quality fetish-oriented websites as you can. Get involved in TGP promotions. Join forums that cater to bdsm/fetish photographers and webmasters and make contacts. Consider attending and exhibiting your work at conventions such as FetishCon (Florida) or Bondcon (Vegas). Market yourself with the same enthusiasm you have when shooting the content. Work on building a respectable search engine ranking. Develop a unique style or brand for your work - try and come up with an angle no one else has already done a thousand times. Its all in the momentum. It ain't gonna happen overnight, though. Aside from the monetary investment, it'll take time, diligence and perseverence. And as the chorus says - post some samples.

11-02-2007, 02:23 AM	#36
DigitalDruid Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 647	My icq is up and running, Thanks for all the help guys. Im working on samples but didnt anticipate the 2257. Im in canada and my lawyer never mentioned doing them aswell as the release forms he made for me. Dont want my first screw up to be on my first post is all. __________________ Get on here and make some ca$h

11-02-2007, 05:11 AM	#37
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	fuckin 'a', post some samples already __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor