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Old 11-06-2007, 01:21 PM   #151
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I'll most likely register as a Republican so I can vote for him.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:25 PM   #152
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:32 PM   #153
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I am proud to have donated to the Ron Paul campaign and support his candidacy for presidency. Anyone who says he doesnt have a chance doesnt have a clue. I'm a college student I am in the middle of BUSH country and over 20 people I know support Ron Paul. More than any other candidate. Ron Paul has very few paid campaign workers and they are as hell are not trolling the internet.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:32 PM   #154
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For the record, Alex, I think the religious right WILL vote for him.

I'm an atheist, and traditionally I would only vote for a secular candidate (I've voted 3rd party every time). Ron Paul is the first exception, because I think there are more important issues.

Here are his policies that I disagree with:

1. He's 100% pro-life, and wants to repeal Roe v Wade and give that power to the states.
2. He's 100% against euthanasia.
3. He thinks prayer in school should be left up to the states.
4. (and this one's troubling, considering his stance as a strict Constitutionalist), he's been quoted as saying the country was founded as a Christian nation, and that there's no basis for separation of church and state. He described the Constitution as "replete" with references to God... although if you read the Constitution, you won't find even a single mention of God.

Despite all that, he has the right idea on foreign policy, he has the right idea on the economy, and aside from the few areas mentioned above, he has the right idea on civil liberties. So I'm voting for him in the primaries, and if he gets the nomination, I could very well consider him.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:34 PM   #155
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haha. I never thought I'd hear YOU say that, Danny.
Me neither! It's a little surreal.
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I am proud to have donated to the Ron Paul campaign and support his candidacy for presidency. Anyone who says he doesnt have a chance doesnt have a clue. I'm a college student I am in the middle of BUSH country and over 20 people I know support Ron Paul. More than any other candidate. Ron Paul has very few paid campaign workers and they are as hell are not trolling the internet.
The campaign that raised all this money was a combination of volunteers and campaign workers, using a technique originally used by the Dean campaign. The idea was to start threads (just like this one, surprise) to get people to donate to the campaign. The entire plan was to go out and join as many chat rooms as possible and spread the word. If you were already a member of a board, you are suppose to use your access to get the message out.

it's spam, nothing more, nothing less, and Ron Paul still polls in the low single digits.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:14 PM   #157
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I never heard of Ron Paul before, but after this thread and digging around on his website, watching the videos about what he's all about, I was sooo excited, I made a donation
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RawAlex, you are saying all kinds of shit that isn't even true... where are you getting your information from?
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The campaign that raised all this money was a combination of volunteers and campaign workers, using a technique originally used by the Dean campaign. The idea was to start threads (just like this one, surprise) to get people to donate to the campaign. The entire plan was to go out and join as many chat rooms as possible and spread the word. If you were already a member of a board, you are suppose to use your access to get the message out.

it's spam, nothing more, nothing less, and Ron Paul still polls in the low single digits.
you must resent the fact that he's doing so well

the polls are a lagging indictator, once he's spent his $10m I think you'll see something different

in the mean time, im sure the campaign is happy to let others be complacent.
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check out this interview with someone who donated to Paul's campaign and who was contacted randomly by ABC, this is simply amazing...

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The names of online contributors flash across Paul's Web site.

One of those names, pulled at random and contacted by ABC News, is Ed Kirkpatrick, of Mulkeytown, Ill.

Kirkpatrick, 53, was actually online at Paul's Web site when we reached him, though he said Mulkeytown is not exactly the modern world and the best he can get is a slow dial-up connection.

He said he had intended to give Paul money for some time, but the coordination of supporters to all give money on Nov. 5 put him over the edge.

Kirkpatrick, who is on disability with back problems after a career as a quality control inspector, gave $100.

"He's a breath of fresh air," Kirkpatrick said of Paul. "He is representing what no other candidate represents in my opinion ? back to the basics and back to what this country was founded on. He'll say what's on his mind. I don't see anything wishy washy about him and he'll say what he thinks instead of him telling me what I want to hear."

To that end, Kirkpatrick, who voted for George W. Bush in 2004 but has not given money to any presidential candidate since Ronald Reagan, said he doesn't agree with Paul on everything, though "disagree might be a bit of a stretch."

As a libertarian Republican, Paul would allow the use of medical marijuana and even broke with the Republican Party back in the '80s over the so-called war on drugs.

"It would be interesting to see [legalizing] drugs works out," Kirkpatrick said.

He also pointed to Paul's disengagement ideas for foreign policy that could have "interesting" consequences, but Kirkpatrick thinks Paul would not be able to pull troops out of Iraq as quickly as everyone thinks.

"I know that him saying that doesn't mean it would happen immediately even if he was elected. The media try to make him sound like a bloomin' idiot up there. Everything would happen tomorrow. But it takes time. He knows that. I know that. Anybody who thinks about it knows it."
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RawAlex, you are saying all kinds of shit that isn't even true... where are you getting your information from?
Bring it on. Please explain where I am wrong. Knock yourself out.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:43 PM   #162
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check out this interview with someone who donated to Paul's campaign and who was contacted randomly by ABC, this is simply amazing...
Not really amazing. What is amazing is that for a guy with less than 5% in any normal poll, that ABC could actually find a supporter.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:49 PM   #163
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I like books better.

What's your best recommendation for a book on "the world is secretly controlled by foreign jewish bankers. Why the money supply should be limited by the amount of a pretty gold metal we dig up"?
Actually, the author of that video suggests the gold standard would be a very bad idea, and doesn't mention Jews at all.
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For the record, Alex, I think the religious right WILL vote for him.

I'm an atheist, and traditionally I would only vote for a secular candidate (I've voted 3rd party every time). Ron Paul is the first exception, because I think there are more important issues.

Here are his policies that I disagree with:

1. He's 100% pro-life, and wants to repeal Roe v Wade and give that power to the states.
2. He's 100% against euthanasia.
3. He thinks prayer in school should be left up to the states.
4. (and this one's troubling, considering his stance as a strict Constitutionalist), he's been quoted as saying the country was founded as a Christian nation, and that there's no basis for separation of church and state. He described the Constitution as "replete" with references to God... although if you read the Constitution, you won't find even a single mention of God.

Despite all that, he has the right idea on foreign policy, he has the right idea on the economy, and aside from the few areas mentioned above, he has the right idea on civil liberties. So I'm voting for him in the primaries, and if he gets the nomination, I could very well consider him.
And people see this man as porn's savior its too funny.also just because he thinks its people's right to do or watch whatever they want in their homes doesnt mean he is ok with porn production. The good thing would be it would bring the government to a stand still and dems and republicans will join together in bitch slapping this guy every chance they get if his president.

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Old 11-06-2007, 05:52 PM   #165
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page 4 of "when politics becomes religion"
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http://www.campaignsandelections.com...eases/?id=6258

chances are he isnt going to be invited to the next debate.
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you must resent the fact that he's doing so well

the polls are a lagging indictator, once he's spent his $10m I think you'll see something different

in the mean time, im sure the campaign is happy to let others be complacent.
he's unelectable.

not only is he unelectable, this "protest vote" is accomplishing absolutely nothing but taking votes away from candidates that are electable, stand a chance and can actually accomplish things with their presidency.

although i love your naive, college age passion and misguided enthusiasm... you are totally missing the bigger picture of how the voting public and government work. i think thats strongly evidenced in the fact that you refuse to accept things how they are ... or even engage in any reasonable debate on issues, accepting that other perspectives and/or arguments might have some degree of validity.
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The campaign that raised all this money was a combination of volunteers and campaign workers, using a technique originally used by the Dean campaign. The idea was to start threads (just like this one, surprise) to get people to donate to the campaign. The entire plan was to go out and join as many chat rooms as possible and spread the word. If you were already a member of a board, you are suppose to use your access to get the message out.

it's spam, nothing more, nothing less, and Ron Paul still polls in the low single digits.



You are a fucking moron. There is no technique. People are excited and want to spread the word. There was no centralized plan to go to chat rooms and spread the word. People in forums and chats naturally speak about what they are interested in.
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I belong to a meetup ron paul group. Well it seems the big rightwing pundits are starting to slam him hard. On Sean Hannity's forum all threads about RP will be banned and they made a sticky about how his campaign is corrupt. let the fun begin.
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I belong to a meetup ron paul group. Well it seems the big rightwing pundits are starting to slam him hard. On Sean Hannity's forum all threads about RP will be banned and they made a sticky about how his campaign is corrupt. let the fun begin.


Its always been like this, which is why his supporters have no logical choice but to take it to the people and spread the word manually. They each come to this conclusion individually or aided by their meetup groups.


Vote Ron Paul for President 2008
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And people see this man as porn's savior its too funny.also just because he thinks its people's right to do or watch whatever they want in their homes doesnt mean he is ok with porn production. The good thing would be it would bring the government to a stand still and dems and republicans will join together in bitch slapping this guy every chance they get if his president.

What government department would come after you for porn production? Chances are Ron Paul is against spending any money on this department and would do his best to deny extra funding to go after porn producers.
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What government department would come after you for porn production?
You really dont know this? Go read xbiz or avn,if you work in the industry this is very important for you to know.
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You are a fucking moron. There is no technique. People are excited and want to spread the word. There was no centralized plan to go to chat rooms and spread the word. People in forums and chats naturally speak about what they are interested in.
Your the fucking moron. Do you think that all the Ron Paul supports all woke up and said "hey, I know, I'll donate on the 5th of November! Yeah, that would be a good day". Nope. It was a planned, schemed, scheduled event, with websites and information to back it up and make it happen. The exact words (I wuote earlier) were to go out and join as many chat boards as possible and post positive things encouraging people to donate.

you can also look at the ron paul forums dot com forum # 180 - " November 5th & 11th Donations"

Please, if you are going to a name calling fuckhead, at least have the story 50% right before you go off.
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It should be a bannable offence to spam for a candidate on this board. Are you informing the campaign of the value of the exposure you are generating for them here? It is clear you must be a campaign worker, so it would need to be declared.
Are you on crack?
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Are you on crack?
Nope. Are you ignorant?

The posting on this board (and others) inviting people to donate are a specific project of the campaign. It starts a bad precedent that essentially would make this board an open book for each and every one of the candidates in this campaign and any other to post messages entirely off the general topic of the board and dominate the place. Please, go look at the places I have mentioned, and you will see the campaign in place. It is abusive.

Can you imagine 10 or 20 campaigns coming here and each post 5 or 10 thread per day? Would you like to wade through 100 threads about how great Hillary is? Perhaps detailed threads of McCain's voting record or maybe reposts of Ron Paul's speeches of the day?

It's fucking nutty.
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Nope. Are you ignorant?

The posting on this board (and others) inviting people to donate are a specific project of the campaign. It starts a bad precedent that essentially would make this board an open book for each and every one of the candidates in this campaign and any other to post messages entirely off the general topic of the board and dominate the place. Please, go look at the places I have mentioned, and you will see the campaign in place. It is abusive.

Can you imagine 10 or 20 campaigns coming here and each post 5 or 10 thread per day? Would you like to wade through 100 threads about how great Hillary is? Perhaps detailed threads of McCain's voting record or maybe reposts of Ron Paul's speeches of the day?

It's fucking nutty.
Can you imagine that I, like many others, just don't give a shit?

The only nuttiness around here is your posts.
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Can you imagine that I, like many others, just don't give a shit?

The only nuttiness around here is your posts.
The just GFY and ignore me. Whatever. No big loss if I don't have to spoon feed shit to you because you are to ignorant to pay attention.
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$2m raised !

this is HUGE....

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he's now standing at $4.7m
$7.5M as I type this

GO RON GO!!!!

Since I'm a US citizen living in the Philippines, we need a Filipino RON PAUL to fix shit down here too! Less government, less rentier economics, less government corruption and theft.
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Nope. Are you ignorant?

The posting on this board (and others) inviting people to donate are a specific project of the campaign. It starts a bad precedent that essentially would make this board an open book for each and every one of the candidates in this campaign and any other to post messages entirely off the general topic of the board and dominate the place. Please, go look at the places I have mentioned, and you will see the campaign in place. It is abusive.
no one is incessantly posting or spamming about events, there is just one thread for example on the day it became a HUGE news story.

if supporters of other political candidates want to create a thread then let them do it and let us hear their pitch, what will their candidate do for the adult industry? Ron Paul has a record on protecting free speech, I doubt any others can say the same, let their supporters or campaign create threads and let us engage with them

people on here are a lot smarter than you think and can make up their own minds
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no one is incessantly posting or spamming about events, there is just one thread for example on the day it became a HUGE news story.

if supporters of other political candidates want to create a thread then let them do it and let us hear their pitch, what will their candidate do for the adult industry? Ron Paul has a record on protecting free speech, I doubt any others can say the same, let their supporters or campaign create threads and let us engage with them

people on here are a lot smarter than you think and can make up their own minds
People here are much smarter than many think, but at the same time, many aren't understanding that posts like this one (and other posts you have made supporting Ron Paul) represent the exact actions that his political supports are recommending people do. As I mentioned and quoted earlier, the idea is to sign up to as many chat boards such as this one, or to use existing account, so that you can chat people up about Ron Paul.

Your actions are pretty obvious, because you were discussing it BEFORE it was news, and not after. After would have been the next day, or at least very late on the 5th. Your post was put here specifically to generate donations for Ron Paul on the right date. That makes it clear that you are either working for the campaign directly, or one of the chucklesheads hanging around the support forums looking for ways to make your candidate grow in the polls.

Remember too Rebel23, this board does allow people to go back and see your other posts. It is remarkable how large of a percentage of your posts in 2007 are Ron Paul shill posts.

So, yeah, I guess people here are smart enough to see your real actions.

Enjoy.
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Was listening to Glen Beck today, I listen to all points of view. The right in the morning, Dave Ramsey and npr in the afternoon. Glen was saying the reason Ron Paul got all that money on 5th it was Guy fawkes day so it was protest against america not love of ron paul. The pundits really dont want this guy.

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People here are much smarter than many think, but at the same time, many aren't understanding that posts like this one (and other posts you have made supporting Ron Paul) represent the exact actions that his political supports are recommending people do.
completely coincidental, I dont need any encouragement believe me.

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Your actions are pretty obvious, because you were discussing it BEFORE it was news, and not after. After would have been the next day, or at least very late on the 5th. Your post was put here specifically to generate donations for Ron Paul on the right date. That makes it clear that you are either working for the campaign directly, or one of the chucklesheads hanging around the support forums looking for ways to make your candidate grow in the polls.

Remember too Rebel23, this board does allow people to go back and see your other posts. It is remarkable how large of a percentage of your posts in 2007 are Ron Paul shill posts.
I am happy to support Dr. Paul, ive never met him or contacted anyone from his campaign or unofficial grass roots supporters, believe me I voice my support for Paul because he is the best candidate (imo) for the adult industry to protect OUR interests. his record on free speech is impeccable, he voted against CDA/COPA as the lone Republican in the house and he will protect your First amendment rights. he is someone worth supporting

other candidates or supporters of candidates are quite free to start threads and debate the issues, no problem with me or the vast majority (i suspect) of GFY members whatsoever, Ron Paul has no monopoly on politics or political discussion that's for sure!

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So, yeah, I guess people here are smart enough to see your real actions.

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laugh all you want, Ron Paul is raising significant amounts of money and is the real deal. just wait until he starts spending it !!

Tony, they're afraid of him and they have every reason to be, he would end their bullsh*t wars and special interests, Neocons aren't real conservative's, the talkshow hosts need to sober up and start getting back to a traditional conservative antiwar, non-interventionist position
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:06 PM   #186
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rebel23, you have been reading his website too much. The only COPA like item he voted against that I could see was a version of COPPA that never made it off the order papers. Otherwise, I haven't seen anything to suggest that he voted against anything such as Adam's Law, COPA, or COPAII. Would you care to enlighten us with maybe some voting rolls?

For the most part no politician is a friend of porn. I can assure you that any republican, even the most "stay out of the way" type is still a terrible, terrible choice if you are in the porn business. A republican pornographer is an oxymoron from the word go. Repbulicans don't want you to have all your rights, they want you to have all the rights that the good book grants you. They have no problem sticking their noses in where god says they should, and Ron Paul has already made it clear that he see no seperation between church and state.

For the most part, candidates that are anti-abortion will also be anti-porn, because they don't think a woman has rights over her own body.

GFY is a porn board, not a political board. I don't want to come here and read 30 or 40 threads about politics anymore than anyone would want to go to the ron paul forum and read about porn. I certainly don't want to read bald faced appeals for donations, certainly not ones orchestrated by the higher ups. You are just too obvious rebel. You need to spend more time on their board and less time here pumping your "low single digit" candidate.
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good show with Ron Paul and Ben Bernanke
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yAwvlDJgJbM

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good show with Ron Paul and Ben Bernanke
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yAwvlDJgJbM
He was one of the few that didn't just float easy questions today and hit the issues instead. What he said was so true you could hear a nervous anonymous chuckle and a silent Ben at the end.


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He was one of the few that didn't just float easy questions today and hit the issues instead. What he said was so true you could hear a nervous anonymous chuckle and a silent Ben at the end.


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Bernake:
"Ineed, despite the falling dollar he may continue to cut rates in a belief that it is much more important to save the pigmen (financial instututions) than it is to help the average citizen"

so fucking true, I feel bad for all of you in US and for all of us, foreign webmasters.
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Bernake:
"Ineed, despite the falling dollar he may continue to cut rates in a belief that it is much more important to save the pigmen (financial instututions) than it is to help the average citizen"

so fucking true, I feel bad for all of you in US and for all of us, foreign webmasters.
it is sort of a slanted view of the universe. If they don't do something to keep the mortgage issue from becoming a true disaster, they wouldn't be protecting the average man either. The situation is sort of everyone is in it together, the banks can be given help and the average man can stay in his home, or the banks can suffer and the average man sleeps in a cardboard box.

It ain't a Ron Paul thing. Again, it's nice to talk about "you shouldn't do that", but without a solid and valid proposal on the other side, he is just a whining outsider with no hope of bringing change.
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http://rasmussenreports.com/public_c...blican_primary

Ron Paul better start spending some of that money, he is polling at an extraordinary 4% in New Hampshire right now.
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http://rasmussenreports.com/public_c...blican_primary

Ron Paul better start spending some of that money, he is polling at an extraordinary 4% in New Hampshire right now.
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So fucking what if he is unelectable?

Hillary Clinton, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, why would I even leave my house to vote for one of them? None of them come remotely close to representing my views. All represent big government and government intervention to solve all problems. Higher taxes, deficit spending, repression of economic freedom, repression of personal freedom, I don't feel compelled to trade one for the other, nor do I think debating a trade off is worth a moment of my time.

All of this "Ron Paul Conspiracy" is beyond silly. If you support the war in Iraq, balancing the budget by raising taxes, and so on, fine. I am not going to question your intelligence. Plenty of smart, sensible people will vote for Clinton, Giuliani, Romney, Obama and so on.

But, if you actually believe that a tiny core group of Ron Paul elitists have conspired to make him appear popular, your an idiot. The fact is he represents a viewpoint that many Americans feel very strongly about -- and no other candidate, Republican or Democrat comes close to fulfilling.

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he's unelectable.

not only is he unelectable, this "protest vote" is accomplishing absolutely nothing but taking votes away from candidates that are electable, stand a chance and can actually accomplish things with their presidency.

although i love your naive, college age passion and misguided enthusiasm... you are totally missing the bigger picture of how the voting public and government work. i think thats strongly evidenced in the fact that you refuse to accept things how they are ... or even engage in any reasonable debate on issues, accepting that other perspectives and/or arguments might have some degree of validity.
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he's unelectable.

not only is he unelectable, this "protest vote" is accomplishing absolutely nothing but taking votes away from candidates that are electable, stand a chance and can actually accomplish things with their presidency.
You know, when I go to Libertarian party meetings, we always have a good laugh about you brain dead fools that believe this horse shit. The real fact of the matter is you only vote for candidates you think will win so that you don't have to later admit to voting for a losing candidate.
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You know, when I go to Libertarian party meetings, we always have a good laugh about you brain dead fools that believe this horse shit. The real fact of the matter is you only vote for candidates you think will win so that you don't have to later admit to voting for a losing candidate.
Yeah, then the six of you discuss how your vote for some wingnut that has no chance is somehow going to change the world.
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LOL some people are so misinformed.

Ron Paul is this industry's BEST CHOICE, hands down, period!

If you have half a fucking brain, spend 1 hour researching the candidates, if you can't come to the conclusion that Ron Paul's positions protect our industry the best you're completely fucking retarded.

His record speaks for itself. We're in an industry that has become a direct target of government regulation time and time again.

I don't care what I may disagree with him on, none of it outweighs protecting my income.

WAKE UP PEOPLE - RON PAUL 2008!

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You know, when I go to Libertarian party meetings, we always have a good laugh about you brain dead fools that believe this horse shit. The real fact of the matter is you only vote for candidates you think will win so that you don't have to later admit to voting for a losing candidate.
well... that makes absolutely no sense. and on top of that, the irony that you support losing candidates and have NEVER had the chance to say "see, we did it" is not lost on my either.
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LOL some people are so misinformed.

Ron Paul is this industry's BEST CHOICE, hands down, period!

If you have half a fucking brain, spend 1 hour researching the candidates, if you can't come to the conclusion that Ron Paul's positions protect our industry the best you're completely fucking retarded.

His record speaks for itself. We're in an industry that has become a direct target of government regulation time and time again.

I don't care what I may disagree with him on, none of it outweighs protecting my income.

WAKE UP PEOPLE - RON PAUL 2008!
people have a brain, thats why they understand that "good for pornography" is hardly a reason to vote for the next president of the united states.

and thinking anyone is going to "protect this industry" is (to quote you) "completely fucking retarded"
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OMFG are you fucked in the head or what?

Ron Paul has made it clear that he is VERY anti-abortion. He has made his colors very clear, he isn't into anyone having freedom to do what they want, just freedom to do like god. Remember, this is the guy who basically said there is no reason for seperation of church and state.

You really, really, really need to spend a few minutes and think before post!
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So fucking what if he is unelectable?

Hillary Clinton, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, why would I even leave my house to vote for one of them? None of them come remotely close to representing my views. All represent big government and government intervention to solve all problems. Higher taxes, deficit spending, repression of economic freedom, repression of personal freedom, I don't feel compelled to trade one for the other, nor do I think debating a trade off is worth a moment of my time.

All of this "Ron Paul Conspiracy" is beyond silly. If you support the war in Iraq, balancing the budget by raising taxes, and so on, fine. I am not going to question your intelligence. Plenty of smart, sensible people will vote for Clinton, Giuliani, Romney, Obama and so on.

But, if you actually believe that a tiny core group of Ron Paul elitists have conspired to make him appear popular, your an idiot. The fact is he represents a viewpoint that many Americans feel very strongly about -- and no other candidate, Republican or Democrat comes close to fulfilling.

As for protest vote -- yes. I want things to be as uncomfortable as possible for smooth talking flip flopper and panderers who don't really believe anything.
huh? what the hell are you talking about?

i dont think this... think that... or think the other thing.

i simply think i see a guy who is so obviously a bad candidate for president, who has zero interest in working with government, who cant lead government and a bunch of morons who think that makes total sense.




you morons are totally unreal.



must be nice. mickey mouse can declare his candicy on the platform of just wanting to make people more happy and it seems there will be no shortage of idiots informing the rest of the world on mickey's behalf, that they are "misinformed" for "not getting it"


the rest of the voting public cares about health care, falling dollar, iran, iraq, n. korea, trade deficits, taxes, debt etc etc etc... and a candidate that can be an effective president.

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