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Kard63 · 12-02-2007, 11:52 PM

Is a domain blacklisted by google fucked for life? Does it every come off the list?

Snake Doctor · 12-02-2007, 11:59 PM

why take the risk? I would pass

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 12-03-2007, 12:00 AM

the hassle you go through to get that domain out of the sandbox is gonna make you wish you never touched it...

datatank · 12-03-2007, 12:05 AM

You can get it added back in super easy.

DBS.US · 12-03-2007, 12:08 AM

How much money are we talking about?

SmokeyTheBear · 12-03-2007, 12:28 AM

without some sort of intervention on google's part it takes a long time to get out of the penalty.

although i suspect that the type of penalty that resulted in the ban has alot to do with how long the ban lasts.

I can def give you some real life insight .

I own a domain that was banned roughly 3 years ago from google.

it became unbanned some time in the last 6 months or so.

I noticed that new pages were taking a long time to get spidered. so i bought a new domain and made basically an identical setup to the other domain to see how fast google spidered and listed.

It seems that the domain google had previously banned and unbanned has a "hidden" penalty , the pages get spidered slowly but fail to obtain any traffic, brand new domain gets spidered faster and rank quicker.

papill0n · 12-03-2007, 12:28 AM

I have submitted a reinclusion request and had a domain indexed again a week later. If you really want the domain you should get it.

datatank · 12-03-2007, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

I have submitted a reinclusion request and had a domain indexed again a week later. If you really want the domain you should get it.

Exactly Smokey you did not sell it and have a new owner submit that is the dif.

d-null · 12-03-2007, 12:58 AM

it's been said that adult domains have a harder time getting unbanned from google

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 12-03-2007, 01:13 AM

i bought a domain back 8 or 9 months back which google had banned. i submitted to be reindexed, and after 4 months still nothing. i fired some emails around to no avail. i wound up just letting the domain drop. some people seem to get lucky and others just don't...

Zester · 12-03-2007, 01:16 AM

why buy a blacklisted domain ? the only reason I see is for reselling it

justFred · 12-03-2007, 01:19 AM

from what I understand if you are not the person who owned the domain when google banned it AND they can verify this, then Google will bring you out of the sandbox very quickly.

how much green are we talking about here? It was blacklisted so I wouldn't pay more than 20% what it would be worth if it weren't, just in case. If the dude has a problem with that, tell him to take a hike.

d-null · 12-03-2007, 01:39 AM

I had a blacklisted domain on the same server as some of my other sites, then I started to wonder about the whole "bad neighborhood" concept and just took it off and parked it.... it's a really good domain name too, and aged and all (8 years old, but of course being banned, that means diddly squat)

StarkReality · 12-03-2007, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

Is a domain blacklisted by google fucked for life? Does it every come off the list?

If there is an owner change (along with host, nameservers, IP) simply file a reinclusion request, but make sure the site is really clean. Keep in mind that google doesn't really like "thin affiliates", so if it's an adult site, it should have some really good content...or the request will be ignored. Although being a "thin affiliate" doesn't necessarily get a domain banned, it definitely prevents reinclusion. Thin affiliate basically means that you have no own content and rely on third party content and affiliate programs.

I yet have to see a domain that doesn't come back automatically, but as Smokey said, it takes many years, one of mine took 5 years, 2002 to 2007 till it finally appeared in the SERPs again (was cleaned and filled with new content in 2002 already). Same observation: It still suffers in some way, the pages crawled seem to rank normally, but new pages are only crawled sporadically.

d-null · 12-03-2007, 02:36 AM

any idea if redirecting a blacklisted domain could hurt the domain you 301 to?

Barefootsies · 12-03-2007, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ismokeblunts

the hassle you go through to get that domain out of the sandbox is gonna make you wish you never touched it...

Not always true.

Been there, done that. More a waiting game then anything else once you'e faxed docs to Google legal.

justFred · 12-03-2007, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jetjet

any idea if redirecting a blacklisted domain could hurt the domain you 301 to?

google will never penalize a domain that was 301'd to by a blacklisted domain.

the reason is this would EASILY be exploited to drop competitors out of the SERPS

d-null · 12-03-2007, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by justFred

google will never penalize a domain that was 301'd to by a blacklisted domain.

the reason is this would EASILY be exploited to drop competitors out of the SERPS

I was thinking that, although I wonder if you put them on the same server and 301'd if they would associate and penalize somehow

SmokeyTheBear · 12-03-2007, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by datatank

Exactly Smokey you did not sell it and have a new owner submit that is the dif.

actually i did. i changed registrars, name servers , and hosts as well

justFred · 12-03-2007, 05:27 AM

I can't remember where I found the information, but it mentioned specifically that google will NEVER penalize you for a 301 redirect. I think in the article it did mention that google might not transfer your link juice to the new domain under xyz conditions... but I don't recall.

I just know they they won't ban you, etc.

d-null · 12-03-2007, 06:07 AM

with google, the complete bans don't worry me as much as the "little" manual tweaking that seems to happen that puts a wrench into the best laid plans

Kard63 · 12-03-2007, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Not always true.

Been there, done that. More a waiting game then anything else once you'e faxed docs to Google legal.

faxed the docs to google legal ?

brand0n · 12-03-2007, 08:50 AM

depends on the domain really.

Barefootsies · 12-05-2007, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

faxed the docs to google legal ?

Right.

I had a site that was sandboxed, and to get it out of there, I had to fax some paper work over to Google's legal department. It took 3-4 months, but it was out of the sand box, and back on page 1 in no time.

But.. it wasn't for 301 redirect.

V_RocKs · 12-05-2007, 10:17 AM

ALL of my blacklisted domains eventually came back to Google and currently I have 10 or so that are within top 5 for search terms they got blacklisted getting.

Go figure!

Barefootsies · 12-05-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

ALL of my blacklisted domains eventually came back to Google and currently I have 10 or so that are within top 5 for search terms they got blacklisted getting.

Go figure!

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	the hassle you go through to get that domain out of the sandbox is gonna make you wish you never touched it...

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datatank Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: My dog is blacker than Tupac Posts: 5,471	You can get it added back in super easy.

12-03-2007, 12:28 AM	#7
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	I have submitted a reinclusion request and had a domain indexed again a week later. If you really want the domain you should get it.

12-03-2007, 01:13 AM	#10
Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	i bought a domain back 8 or 9 months back which google had banned. i submitted to be reindexed, and after 4 months still nothing. i fired some emails around to no avail. i wound up just letting the domain drop. some people seem to get lucky and others just don't...

12-03-2007, 01:19 AM	#12
justFred Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 922	from what I understand if you are not the person who owned the domain when google banned it AND they can verify this, then Google will bring you out of the sandbox very quickly. how much green are we talking about here? It was blacklisted so I wouldn't pay more than 20% what it would be worth if it weren't, just in case. If the dude has a problem with that, tell him to take a hike. __________________ Vote Bill Cosby 2012

12-03-2007, 01:39 AM	#13
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	I had a blacklisted domain on the same server as some of my other sites, then I started to wonder about the whole "bad neighborhood" concept and just took it off and parked it.... it's a really good domain name too, and aged and all (8 years old, but of course being banned, that means diddly squat)

12-03-2007, 02:36 AM	#15
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	any idea if redirecting a blacklisted domain could hurt the domain you 301 to? __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

12-03-2007, 05:27 AM	#20
justFred Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 922	I can't remember where I found the information, but it mentioned specifically that google will NEVER penalize you for a 301 redirect. I think in the article it did mention that google might not transfer your link juice to the new domain under xyz conditions... but I don't recall. I just know they they won't ban you, etc. __________________ Vote Bill Cosby 2012

12-03-2007, 06:07 AM	#21
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	with google, the complete bans don't worry me as much as the "little" manual tweaking that seems to happen that puts a wrench into the best laid plans

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12-05-2007, 10:17 AM	#25
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	ALL of my blacklisted domains eventually came back to Google and currently I have 10 or so that are within top 5 for search terms they got blacklisted getting. Go figure!