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Old 12-04-2007, 04:43 PM   #101
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I'd be comfortable with only nations that don't hold the religious beliefs that to die for your religion is the highest honor one can achieve having nukes.
It's what Jesus did. That seemed to work out well for him.

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Old 12-04-2007, 04:44 PM   #102
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What I'm saying is that there is always more to the story then what is reported and to say otherwise is pretty dumb.
Yes, Bush said that Iran was making nukes..... there was more to the story. He lied.

I bet when a sponsor shaves you, you just shrug and go "well, they lied but I bet there's more to the story. I don't mind."
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:00 PM   #103
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It's quite simple. Irans leader his insisted many times he wants the nuclear energy for electricity. If we go by the absolutley absurd logic by assuming that he is lying, we would have to assume that Bush is also lying about the intel on Iran, and then you are in a paradox...

logic 101
And if we believe him when he says he wants nuclear energy for electricity should we also believe him when he says he wants to wipe an entire country off the face of the world?

Or is it convenient to ignore that part?
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:26 PM   #104
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And if we believe him when he says he wants nuclear energy for electricity should we also believe him when he says he wants to wipe an entire country off the face of the world?

Or is it convenient to ignore that part?
Umm, yes we can ignore that part because he didn't fucking say it. It was spin by the media. Loads of professors in the Farsi language have confirmed that it was a mis translation and what he said is that the

"Zionist regieme from Israel should be wiped from the pages of time"

When we wanted to wipe Communism from the pages of time, we didn't want to wipe Russia off the map.

Official translation: The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad) or .بايد از صفحه روزگار محو شود

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Old 12-04-2007, 05:39 PM   #105
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what he said is that the

"Zionist regieme from Israel should be wiped from the pages of time"
And how is that going to be done? Peacefully? We aren't going to destroy Israel we are just going to destroy the Zionists that make up Israel.



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Old 12-04-2007, 05:41 PM   #106
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And how is that going to be done? Peacefully? We aren't going to destroy Israel we are just going to destroy the Zionists that make up Israel.



oh and their families.
Read it again. It says nothing about destroying anyone or anything. It's not about wiping out people or killing people, it's about terminating a racist ideology that causes death.

Peace = good.

Zionism = racism

Racism = Bad
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:48 PM   #107
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Read it again. It says nothing about destroying anyone or anything. It's not about wiping out people or killing people, it's about terminating a racist ideology that causes death.

Peace = good.

Zionism = racism

Racism = Bad
I read it and I'm asking you how will this be done?

BTW the idea that every nation of people can have a home except for one -- the jewish one -- is racist to me.
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:50 PM   #108
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Nonononono, nobody said the Jews can't have a home. Infact i'm not even objecting to them having a home in Israel, but the west bank and Gaza must be handed over and Israel must withdraw from there since it isn't there land. Also East Jerusalem must be made the capital of Palestine, then mabye everyone can work towards a multi cutral and peaceful Israel...
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Nonononono, nobody said the Jews can't have a home. Infact i'm not even objecting to them having a home in Israel, but the west bank and Gaza must be handed over and Israel must withdraw from there since it isn't there land. Also East Jerusalem must be made the capital of Palestine, then mabye everyone can work towards a multi cutral and peaceful Israel...
I'm not going to get into it about who's land it is but I agree for the most part in the solution you outlined. Only condition that Israel seems to have is they want peaceful neighbors since this land has been used twice from which to attack from.
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I read it and I'm asking you how will this be done?

BTW the idea that every nation of people can have a home except for one -- the jewish one -- is racist to me.
Israel is there ... and will stay . No point discussing that.

But since when a religion requires a " country " ???

The Jehovah witness have a country ?
The mormons have a country ?
The christians have a country ?

No... Some countries tough are mainly populated with some majority of religion .... but don't have a country...

I don't.
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I'm not going to get into it about who's land it is but I agree for the most part in the solution you outlined. Only condition that Israel seems to have is they want peaceful neighbors since this land has been used twice from which to attack from.
Agree on that ...

The worst that the " Palestinians " are doing for their cause is to attack Israel with blind rockets ... It is an act of terrorism, useless and achieves nothing aside from furthering their own cause.
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geees, is this all it takes to get people wound up? calling an idiot an idiot?

fact: GWB is an idiot. it doesn't make you any less patriotic to think that.

i bet he doesn't even tie his own shoes in the morning without help to get it right.
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Old 12-04-2007, 06:08 PM   #113
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Gee Tony now you sound like OMG....RON PAUL!
I agree with him on that, its the truth.
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:41 PM   #114
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Just now a news reporter said "well, you talked of mushroom clouds in Iraq and WMD's, and there were none, then you talked of Iran having nukes or close to it, and now it turns out there are none. Can't you be accused of hyping these less than truthful claims, and ruining the U.S.'s credibility?"

Bush: "uh.......uh......uh.....Iran was and still is dangerous, nothing has changed, my opinion hasn't changed"
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Old 12-04-2007, 08:29 PM   #115
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Old 12-05-2007, 08:40 AM   #116
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geees, is this all it takes to get people wound up? calling an idiot an idiot?

fact: GWB is an idiot. it doesn't make you any less patriotic to think that.

i bet he doesn't even tie his own shoes in the morning without help to get it right.
I'll betchur right.
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