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Old 12-24-2007, 02:07 PM   #1
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walmart, just watched the anti-walmart documentary

they just spent 2 hours bashing walmart on how efficient they are. looking at the families wealth and comparing it to how poor the workers are, in the US and other countries

walmarmovie.com

imagine being able to build the biggest company in the US and getting bashed for how you did it. the company was built on low-prices, thats what drew the consumers, and they did it through keeping a lean workforce and low margins elsewhere

it just goes to show you can argue anything. if you dont like capitalism, you have other options
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Old 12-24-2007, 03:19 PM   #2
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They also make the people they're buying from go back and make a cheaper product so they can keep those prices low..

and their gas isn't refined with protective additives.. so they can keep it cheaper too..

Lots of sensors burn out on cars running on their gas...
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Old 12-24-2007, 03:29 PM   #3
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They also treat their workers like shit. Paying dirt cheap. Not allowing them to work over 32 hours a week.
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Old 12-24-2007, 03:32 PM   #4
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the documentary differently showed more of the bad that wal-mart has done and not so much good that they have done...lol

one side never tells the whole story...
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They also treat their workers like shit. Paying dirt cheap. Not allowing them to work over 32 hours a week.
No one is forcing people to work at walmart... If they don't like the pay, conditions, etc they can go work elsewhere else...
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Old 12-24-2007, 04:15 PM   #6
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they just spent 2 hours bashing walmart on how efficient they are. looking at the families wealth and comparing it to how poor the workers are, in the US and other countries

walmarmovie.com

imagine being able to build the biggest company in the US and getting bashed for how you did it. the company was built on low-prices, thats what drew the consumers, and they did it through keeping a lean workforce and low margins elsewhere

it just goes to show you can argue anything. if you don't like capitalism, you have other options
Yeah, you see, but thats not all that Wal-Mart did. They also hire illegal immigrants, bust unions and blackball manufactures into making substandard and in some cases unsafe crap to keep those prices low.

Also, the link is: http://www.walmartmovie.com
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Old 12-24-2007, 04:53 PM   #7
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Yes, I am a Walmart hater. And it's sure not because I don't believe in free trade and capitalism. You won't find a union hater bigger than me. I lived in Scandinavia for almost 4 years and had to deal with the labor unions on a daily basis (as an employer paying full pay for 13 months of maternity leave... fuck me).
My experience with Walmart has been the same. During my 8 year hiatus from the adult biz I did some food business with Walmart. They killed us with their slotting practices (the buy-in to get a slot for your product in the coolers). Don't even get me started on their return policy. When you sent them an invoice, you could almost expect them to send you one back saying that you owed them money. I went through this same shit back in the mid-90's when I distributed software and 3-D gaming gear to CompUSA. FUCK THEM ALL.
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Old 12-24-2007, 07:01 PM   #8
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I still shop at Wal-Mart.... and I love it... so suck it haters
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Old 12-24-2007, 07:06 PM   #9
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Wal-Marts to ghetto for me, I'll pay $1 more at Target but I don't have to interact with the Wal-Mart loving trash.
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Old 12-24-2007, 08:01 PM   #10
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Yes, I am a Walmart hater. And it's sure not because I don't believe in free trade and capitalism. You won't find a union hater bigger than me. I lived in Scandinavia for almost 4 years and had to deal with the labor unions on a daily basis (as an employer paying full pay for 13 months of maternity leave... fuck me).
My experience with Walmart has been the same. During my 8 year hiatus from the adult biz I did some food business with Walmart. They killed us with their slotting practices (the buy-in to get a slot for your product in the coolers). Don't even get me started on their return policy. When you sent them an invoice, you could almost expect them to send you one back saying that you owed them money. I went through this same shit back in the mid-90's when I distributed software and 3-D gaming gear to CompUSA. FUCK THEM ALL.
they do what they have to to be competitive. its a business, its supposed to make money. now the owners, they can do with it what they will.

its a job, if you can find a better one, go for it
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Old 12-24-2007, 08:02 PM   #11
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Check out the walmart hate episode of BULLSHIT to see the other side of the story...

3 parts:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ExwxP0NRB3o
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z1RZR3enTrw
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aYXStyD2UhE
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Old 12-24-2007, 08:08 PM   #12
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They also treat their workers like shit. Paying dirt cheap. Not allowing them to work over 32 hours a week.
i worked there before as a cashier and got started out at $7.25.

They told me when they hired me that they start out @ $7.00 but people dont like being a cashier so they throw in a little extra as an incentive...a whopping 25cents. The manager was serious as hell when he told me that too. we were constantly threatened to be fired if we even got 1 click of overtime.(the time clock was in clicks instead of mins...100clicks=1hr, 50clicks = 30 mins etc...) so you can imagine 1 click might be a little less than 1 min. gr8 place to shop but shitttttttty place to work.
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Old 12-24-2007, 08:14 PM   #13
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Old 12-24-2007, 08:18 PM   #14
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Wal-Marts to ghetto for me, I'll pay $1 more at Target but I don't have to interact with the Wal-Mart loving trash.
amen Target people to the end We love the red and white.
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:00 PM   #15
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No one is forcing people to work at walmart... If they don't like the pay, conditions, etc they can go work elsewhere else...
that's not true at all... in many small towns, walmart has completely swallowed the local retail and production sectors to the point that walmart is pretty much the only employer. it's either walmart or nothing.

i'd be interested to know what "good" people think walmart is responsible for.
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:08 PM   #16
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that's not true at all... in many small towns, walmart has completely swallowed the local retail and production sectors to the point that walmart is pretty much the only employer. it's either walmart or nothing.

i'd be interested to know what "good" people think walmart is responsible for.
i understand what you're saying but think about it. if a person is forced to work at wal mart or be unemployed...maybe they should do something with their lives. Go to school, get an education.
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:31 PM   #17
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It's not that easy for everyone to just go to school and get an education... people work shit jobs because they have no other choice. Say, a 18 year old single mother with no family or anyone to help out.. how the fuck is she going to afford school let alone find time?

Walmart creates TONS of jobs all over the world. They are USA's biggest employer...
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:33 PM   #18
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Walmart creates TONS of jobs all over the world. They are USA's biggest employer...
Minimum wage with no employee rights in the US... Underage labour, sweat shops and pollution in China. What a socially responsible employer.
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also most of their shit comes from China, personally I would not even wear underwear made there, the material / color can give you cancer. Those conniving oriental bastards would sell their hoe mom to save a penny.

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that's not true at all... in many small towns, walmart has completely swallowed the local retail and production sectors to the point that walmart is pretty much the only employer. it's either walmart or nothing.

i'd be interested to know what "good" people think walmart is responsible for.
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:57 PM   #20
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Minimum wage with no employee rights in the US... Underage labour, sweat shops and pollution in China. What a socially responsible employer.
Min wage is better than no job.

Sweat shops are bad, but it's better than starving or turning to prostitution, no? It's not like every sweatshop in China kidnaps people and forces them to work. They work there because it's their best bet. If they raise wages in sweatshops, it wouldn't be worth having factories in China and therefore they wouldn't exist and the people would be unemployed..

Sweat shops = bad. No sweat shops = worse.

Wal Marts = bad. No Walmart = worse.
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Old 12-25-2007, 01:51 AM   #21
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If you don't like Walmart, don't shop there.
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No one is supposed to "start" working as the CEO. You are supposed to start in a shit job and work your way up. Do a good job, follow the rules, get a promotion or two, then move on.

I wish I had Wal-mart as a kid. Working there would have been a lot better than washing / scrubbing mountains of dishes, or serving blue hairs at the local steakhouse.

I bet WalMart has put more vendors out of business than competitors. They are pricks to sell to. Whatever you sell them, you will get 1/2 back.
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As a capitalist i favor walmarts right to exist & do business how they choose.

As a decent human, i choose not to shop at walmart.
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Walmarts sucks the money out of the local economy. Mom and pop shops go out of business. The local supermarkets either close down or reduce their work force....

Walmart literally sucks the money out of the local economy by taking all profits and hauling it off to Bentonville to be stashed in the Waltons family vaults. Most companies usually re-invest in the local economy. What Walmart does is exploit the system to the max for their gain.
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Old 12-25-2007, 07:21 AM   #26
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i'd be interested to know what "good" people think walmart is responsible for.
low prices on products, if there wasnt an appeal to walmart, people woudnt go there to shop.

they are so cuthroat to get their customers the lowest prices possible that they have horrible reputations among their suppliers and employees ;)

its like when the fast food industry became big and pushed all the small mom and pop diners toi closing.
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I was impressed when they open 24 hours a day for the whole christmas season.
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