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Old 12-29-2007, 07:30 PM   #51
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Even when they're pregnant or dying.
My scum of the earth step mother was diagnosed with some extremely rare form of cancer. There were only a little over 2k recorded cases of it so the Dr's really weren't too sure about her. She continued smoking the whole time...my family had fund raisers for her and she would sit out there with a scarf on her bald head while burning away. Then the bitch beat it, 5 years later she's still clear but Dr's told her she would more than likely never ever ever be able to have children. That was hard for her to deal with being only like 28 years old. My dad ends up busting one lucky nut in her and what does the skank do? U guessed it. Baby was born premature as fuck and had allllllll kinds of health problems.
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:31 PM   #52
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“Obesity is catching up to tobacco as the leading cause of death in America,” proclaimed Centers for Disease Control and Prevention chief Julie Gerberding this week. “Americans need to understand that overweight and obesity are literally killing us,” added Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,113975,00.html


Honestly... Fat people fucking disgust me. Simple as that. Seeing a Fat MOM waddling a string of fat fucking kids to fat know it all morons that thing there above everyone else, pure bile. Fat people effect everyone around them in simple ways, from the smell for cheetos wafting from their greasy sweaty bodies, to the higher insurance we all have to pay because of "health care" keeping them alive. Smokers... most are no better. There are a few of us that make it a point to keep our habit to ourselves, like go outside to have a smoke or whatever, but a fat bastard can't make themselves not ruin the view of a beautiful room no matter how hard they try. Being a fat fucking slob is just screaming at the world "LOOK and ME! I'm a lazy overeating fuck."

Sorry it's my opinion, and like assholes everyone has one.
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:32 PM   #53
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I'm going on 3 years sober from drinking and partying several times a week for 10+ years, through my twenties. I know how addicts are, I know. I've had to give up and quit a lot of things and make hard choices to be healthy.

but I reserve my right to bitch at loved ones who smoke.

good luck happy new year to all of us addicts (food, cigs, crack, etc)
There's nothing wrong with that. That's different than some stranger coughing or acting like their some superior social elite shit cause they don't smoke and eat tofu or some such shit
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:34 PM   #54
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OH BOY! Do I ever agree with THAT!

It's a medical fact that nicotine reduces anxiety.
Reduces anxiety caused by nicotine withdrawal maybe. Smoking constricts blood vessels which restricts blood flow to your important shit. I dont claim to be a medical expert by any means, im just some GFY loser but i think my heart rate being 50beats per minute makes me a LOT less anxious than it being 100.
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:35 PM   #55
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?Obesity is catching up to tobacco as the leading cause of death in America,? proclaimed Centers for Disease Control and Prevention chief Julie Gerberding this week. ?Americans need to understand that overweight and obesity are literally killing us,? added Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,113975,00.html


Honestly... Fat people fucking disgust me. Simple as that. Seeing a Fat MOM waddling a string of fat fucking kids to fat know it all morons that thing there above everyone else, pure bile. Fat people effect everyone around them in simple ways, from the smell for cheetos wafting from their greasy sweaty bodies, to the higher insurance we all have to pay because of "health care" keeping them alive. Smokers... most are no better. There are a few of us that make it a point to keep our habit to ourselves, like go outside to have a smoke or whatever, but a fat bastard can't make themselves not ruin the view of a beautiful room no matter how hard they try. Being a fat fucking slob is just screaming at the world "LOOK and ME! I'm a lazy overeating fuck."

Sorry it's my opinion, and like assholes everyone has one.
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:37 PM   #56
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That's different than some stranger coughing or acting like their some superior social elite shit cause they don't smoke and eat tofu or some such shit
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:41 PM   #57
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What made you start?

Why do you continue?

Do you care how it affects others?

Do you continue to smoke when you have respiratory problems caused by a cold or something along those lines?



In case you're interested, this is why I'm asking:

If I'm sitting in traffic and the person 3 cars ahead of me is smoking, with their window up, I can still smell it.

I've had a cough for about a month now which makes me even more aware of the smokers around me, whether they are smoking at the time or not. While Christmas shopping, I encountered MANY people standing directly outside of the stores puffing away. As a non-smoker, I find this beyond rude and I can't help but wonder if the average smoker is oblivious to how their habit impacts people like me.

Just curious.
Ever thought that perhaps people get sick and tired of your obnoxious personality?

Why do you continue?

Do you care how it affects others?

Do you continue to be an obnoxious prick when you have respiratory problems caused by a cold or something along those lines?
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?Obesity is catching up to tobacco as the leading cause of death in America,? proclaimed Centers for Disease Control and Prevention chief Julie Gerberding this week. ?Americans need to understand that overweight and obesity are literally killing us,? added Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,113975,00.html


Honestly... Fat people fucking disgust me. Simple as that. Seeing a Fat MOM waddling a string of fat fucking kids to fat know it all morons that thing there above everyone else, pure bile. Fat people effect everyone around them in simple ways, from the smell for cheetos wafting from their greasy sweaty bodies, to the higher insurance we all have to pay because of "health care" keeping them alive. Smokers... most are no better. There are a few of us that make it a point to keep our habit to ourselves, like go outside to have a smoke or whatever, but a fat bastard can't make themselves not ruin the view of a beautiful room no matter how hard they try. Being a fat fucking slob is just screaming at the world "LOOK and ME! I'm a lazy overeating fuck."

Sorry it's my opinion, and like assholes everyone has one.
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:54 PM   #59
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:07 PM   #61
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Now there's the really fucked up part! I thought about destroying the pack, and the chick at the store knows I quit and tried to sell me just one cig.
But I'm like afraid of what will happen if I don't have one so I can't throw them out. It's some messed up mental shit with this drug!
In the black neighborhoods I've been to (and it's been MANY), most neighborhood stores you can get three long newports for $1 It's a GREAT way to moderate your smoking.
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:08 PM   #62
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In the black neighborhoods I've been to (and it's been MANY), most neighborhood stores you can get three long newports for $1 It's a GREAT way to moderate your smoking.
do the black people where you live love black n milds too? They're like a hood classic here, goes great after a nice blunt.
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I can't remember why I started smoking when I was younger, but the reason I started again last year is stress. For me, that's the only benefit of smoking: it's is an excellent stress reliever. And as I get older and less willing to partake in other "vices", I find myself more inclined to pick up a cigarette when I feel the need for a "something". But I am constantly telling myself that I need to quit again; it's just that the need for a vice outweighs logic sometimes.

However... even as a smoker, I do love the fact that bars, restaurants, etc. have become smoke-free environments. Also, being in CA, it seems that just about every public socializing establishment has it's own smoking area, completely seperate from the main areas so to limit the effects on non-smokers. Other states adopting the no-smoking policies should follow suit. I recently spent a few months in Washington (also a non-smoking state), and designated smoking areas in WA seem to be the exception rather than the norm. I suspect that OR is the same in it's lack of smoking areas? I think that if more businesses designate areas for smokers to hang out away from non-smokers, it would eliminate some of the crass-ness you are referring to.

Another thing about people smoking right in front of business entrances, etc... I have noticed that most places like grocery stores, shopping centers, movie theaters, all put their ashtrays right in front of the entrance doors. Smokers naturally gravitate toward the ashtrays when they are out getting their fix. I think that if stores and other such businesses would put their ashtrays off to the side, that would help eliminate some of the effects on other customers. Of course, it would also result in more litter because some people are just too damn lazy to walk the extra 30 feet to use an ashtray or garbage can. And face it... people like that are going to fuck things up for everybody else no matter what rules or facilities are in place for them. Those are the people who just don't give a crap about anybody else but themselves, whether it comes to smoking, driving, talking on cell phones in movie theaters... whatever. There are always going to be some people that you can never please no matter what, so there's no use trying.

Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that I think a lot of smokers felt alienated when these laws started popping up. They get kicked out of their environmnent, are forced outside and often not given a seperate area to do their dirty work, and people are still bitching. I mean face it, non-smokers as a whole are not going to be entirely happy until they have passed laws confining smoking to inside people's own homes and nowhere else. I think it's caused a much more "in your face" attitude from smokers than before these laws started happening. And I know it's not the responsibility of businesses to cater to smokers, but I think that if more did, there would be much less clash between smokers and non.
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Old 12-29-2007, 09:24 PM   #65
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If I'm sitting in traffic and the person 3 cars ahead of me is smoking, with their window up, I can still smell it.

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Can you smell the exhaust from their car as well? Carbon Monoxide is odorless but you might smell some of the other poisonous gasses that are emitting from their tail pipe.
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What made you start?

Why do you continue?

Do you care how it affects others?

Do you continue to smoke when you have respiratory problems caused by a cold or something along those lines?



In case you're interested, this is why I'm asking:

If I'm sitting in traffic and the person 3 cars ahead of me is smoking, with their window up, I can still smell it.

I've had a cough for about a month now which makes me even more aware of the smokers around me, whether they are smoking at the time or not. While Christmas shopping, I encountered MANY people standing directly outside of the stores puffing away. As a non-smoker, I find this beyond rude and I can't help but wonder if the average smoker is oblivious to how their habit impacts people like me.

Just curious.
As a recent quitter.. some 6 months now... I've got to say I had a junkie mentality about how it affected other people. They didn't understand my need/desire/right to smoke, so I didn't give a crap about them unless they were rude enough to say something...

I did feel badly about how it affected my kids.. now that I'm free things are a lot differently
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I do not even know why people pretend to care one way or the other about smoking...

Fact:
Living in populated area's is nearly the same as smoking.
You drive on the roads alot? You are basically smoking.
You live day to day exposed to numerous toxins, germs, in a world that is prone to accidents and murder.

All you people are going to to die.
One way or another.

Cancer, Heart Deisease, some way one way or another your going to die.

Once you got the idea that your time will come...
Smoking is the least of the things to worry about.

Come to grips with your own death...
Accept it.

Light up and say fuck it.
Cuz shit dont matter anyways. We're all dead.

Being afraid of death just makes you a sniveler to people that live life.
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I do not even know why people pretend to care one way or the other about smoking...

Fact:
Living in populated area's is nearly the same as smoking.
You drive on the roads alot? You are basically smoking.
You live day to day exposed to numerous toxins, germs, in a world that is prone to accidents and murder.

All you people are going to to die.
One way or another.

Cancer, Heart Deisease, some way one way or another your going to die.

Once you got the idea that your time will come...
Smoking is the least of the things to worry about.

Come to grips with your own death...
Accept it.

Light up and say fuck it.
Cuz shit dont matter anyways. We're all dead.

Being afraid of death just makes you a sniveler to people that live life.

And it's never to soon to get your children started.




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Some people truly dont want to live and its a way to kill yourself faster. For some old age is more fearful. People know that its going to kill them, who cares what others do?
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I've had a cough for about a month now which makes me even more aware of the smokers around me, whether they are smoking at the time or not.
You don't smoke and you've had a cough for about a month? Hmmm. Time to go see the doctor.

I started smoking when I was about fourteen or so. No idea why I started; Maybe it was peer pressure or just the thrill of doing something "bad".

Why do I continue? I enjoy it?

Do you continue to smoke when you have respiratory problems caused by a cold or something along those lines? I very rarely get sick.

I quit smoking for about two months and I was okay with it. I started back up over the Christmas break. I promised my wife I would quit for the new year, and I'm back to no smoking again.

I must admit that while I wasn't smoking, people who were smoking bothered me. To a non smoker - even someone who just quit - the stuff reeks.
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:21 PM   #75
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My best friend sounds like he's going to puke a lung every time he coughs, which is about 30-40 times a day. He's 28, and smokes weed and cigarettes all the time. Sometimes I can hear him 50 feet away down the hall of our apartment building loud and clear his cough is so loud.

He doesn't even get it checked.
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I never smoked cigarettes and cigarette smoke never bothered me. As far as quitting dont know if it makes a different my father gave up smoking 18 yrs ago.Now he has stage 4 lung cancer.
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I do not even know why people pretend to care one way or the other about smoking...

Fact:
Living in populated area's is nearly the same as smoking.
You drive on the roads alot? You are basically smoking.
You live day to day exposed to numerous toxins, germs, in a world that is prone to accidents and murder.

All you people are going to to die.
One way or another.

Cancer, Heart Deisease, some way one way or another your going to die.

Once you got the idea that your time will come...
Smoking is the least of the things to worry about.

Come to grips with your own death...
Accept it.

Light up and say fuck it.
Cuz shit dont matter anyways. We're all dead.

Being afraid of death just makes you a sniveler to people that live life.
wow... this is the first post of you that i agree with... walking on the street is even more unhealthy than smoking - thats a proven fact. I think the people complaining about smoking are kinda funny. Like the people working in bars who complain about the smoke: Why the fuck did you get that job then? Those fucks unleashed the discussion and eventually the banning of smoking in bars here in a few months. Not the custumors, no, just a handful of employees.... unbelievable. Bars are places to unwind, but in a few months it will be another place where borders are being raised, i fucking hate it. Relaxing doesnt work when you have to think about the 2 or 3 whiny bitches that unchained the non smoking shit. I want to relax in a bar with a cig and a bacardi like our ancenstors have done several thousands of years long, and now it gets taken away. Long live the police state....
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Can you smell the exhaust from their car as well? Carbon Monoxide is odorless but you might smell some of the other poisonous gasses that are emitting from their tail pipe.
another good post, people just love to bitch about smokers but forget everything else for their convenience
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I can't believe I clicked into this thread after getting back from the store after six months of not smoking and I broke down and bought a pack.

Fuck! What a drag? I smoked two right away.
It sucks and basically, I'm a fool.

It's just so fitting that this was the first thread I saw after doing that.

I smoked outside but I can still smell the smoke on me even though I took off the jacket and pants I had on.

I'm totaly disgusted with myself and at the same time I'm "dying" to light up another one.

Sucks.
This post made me want to smoke
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What made you start? Don't know exactly... friends and parents smoked... kinda came with the territory I guess...

Why do you continue? Addiction plain and simple...

Do you care how it affects others? Yes. I'm as conscious as possible of nonsmokers when in public.

Do you continue to smoke when you have respiratory problems caused by a cold or something along those lines? Yes.
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I'm a non-smoker, and I went to a neighbours house today for the first time to hang out for a bit, and he asked if I minded if he smoked (instant points!) I said I didn't mind, and I don't. I mind in a car, but in a big room with a single cig at a time - no problem. I didn't know he was even a smoker until he asked honestly.

He smoked a few while I was there, and it truly wasn't bothering me at all, hardly noticed.

When I got home, I sat down with the fam to catch the rest of the pats game, and instantly all I could smell was my clothes. My father in law noticed right away too, and the other folks in the room said they could smell it too.

All I wanted to do was go change my shirt, so I did. I came back, and then... All I could smell was my jeans.. ugh. So I went to change them too.

That shit is nasty any way you look at it.
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I'm a non-smoker, and I went to a neighbours house today for the first time to hang out for a bit, and he asked if I minded if he smoked (instant points!) I said I didn't mind, and I don't. I mind in a car, but in a big room with a single cig at a time - no problem. I didn't know he was even a smoker until he asked honestly.

He smoked a few while I was there, and it truly wasn't bothering me at all, hardly noticed.

When I got home, I sat down with the fam to catch the rest of the pats game, and instantly all I could smell was my clothes. My father in law noticed right away too, and the other folks in the room said they could smell it too.

All I wanted to do was go change my shirt, so I did. I came back, and then... All I could smell was my jeans.. ugh. So I went to change them too.

That shit is nasty any way you look at it.
so... you were only bothered with the smell.... big deal, right? Im a smoker myself, maybe thats why i really dont care... anyway, i notice amongst my friends that they start to introduce smoking rules, like only smoke outside and shit. Ive noticed that i used to like to chill there more back when smoking was no big deal than now with their petty rules... seems like the only place i can be myself now is at home... the whole no smoking hype sucks ass.
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Old 12-29-2007, 11:12 PM   #84
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I've been trying to get a family member to quit. I wish this thread had some insight. But it seems like someone addicted to smoking just won't quit unless they want to make a change in their life. I've tried books, print outs, hours of discussion of the facts. No affect. Its really fucked up, and I hope they never get ill from smoking because family is going to be really upset. But the odds are not good. Its like watching someone slowly commit suicide, when they get old and ill and still smoke.
Do you try to convince everyone around you to be vegan too?
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