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Old 01-28-2008, 03:36 AM   #51
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its the same as asking why google has so simplified design for 8 years now
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Old 01-28-2008, 07:53 AM   #52
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PS. may be I don't see anything in it because I am not a gallery submitter or I am not in business since 2000?
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:59 AM   #53
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u guys wanna see something sadder ?
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...ax&size=Medium

PK used to be the biggest pornsite in the world at one time.
now it barely gets 50k users a day.
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I think most of the old timers don't care too much anymore and made their money already. I doubt Patrick gives 2 shits as he is probably still making a shitload without changing anything ;))
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Old 01-31-2008, 07:58 AM   #55
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if you would actualy read my post, I didnt speak about Alexa numbers, I spoke about SEXTRACKER numbers.
So how do you explain that some of biggest old sites lost 50% of traffic and thehun 30% in two years?

maybe because thehun doesn't trade?
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:09 AM   #56
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No, I work with people in the 15-25 age group on a daily basis, and we've talked about porn and not once have I ever heard of anyone talking about "The Hun" - most use torrents or tubes.
I'm 23, and when most of my male friends find out what I do, they ask if I know/what I think of "The Hun", so...
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:24 AM   #57
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The graph means nothing, i've analyzed the top sites traffic reports.

Viral marketing is trashing Alexas numbers, the bottom line is
if you looked at the daily page requests for those sites for everyday in the past 4 years... the page requests and bandwidth usages are pretty similiar today to what they were 4 years ago..

What has changed is the # of distinct hosts visitng these sites.
But you tell me, is the reduction number of disctinct hosts a sign of reduced
traffic, or an increase in proxy use amd cut down of dynamic ip ranges?

The world have been running out of ip's and proxy science has improved, so on and so on.... I bet the traffic is pretty similiar to what it once once.. Only with viral marketing now the MAINSTREAM has figured itself out, so the numbers are just increasing for the other sites..

Alexa is a tool, not facts
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:32 AM   #58
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:39 AM   #60
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:48 AM   #61
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No, I work with people in the 15-25 age group on a daily basis, and we've talked about porn and not once have I ever heard of anyone talking about "The Hun" - most use torrents or tubes.

Why would you talking to a 15 year old about porn...PEDO!!
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And funny thing is: the overflow section of our site has had their best month ever in January 2008!

http://newstats.sextracker.com/st?sk...auth.Id=244789


I think this is a result of adding more niches....
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:21 AM   #64
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And funny thing is: the overflow section of our site has had their best month ever in January 2008!

http://newstats.sextracker.com/st?sk...auth.Id=244789


I think this is a result of adding more niches....
but the main page traffic is decreasing and number of signups too, while there were recently even a small raise of spot prices.
I give it a year and I wont be buying spots for current prices from you again (because of decreasing profitability)
it was nice times to buy spots on thehun in the past, now its more riskier for me...
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:37 AM   #66
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I think this thread deserves something for the surfers.

This is a gallery I submitted today for TheHun: http://www.tranzagals.com/galleries/...35/thehun.html

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Old 03-06-2008, 11:05 AM   #68
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Hrrr-hrmm.. does anyone here really think he's crying right now, over losing some "dead weight" (aka freeloaders)..?

Just a bit cheaper hosting bill
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Old 03-06-2008, 12:01 PM   #69
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u guys wanna see something sadder ?
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...ax&size=Medium

PK used to be the biggest pornsite in the world at one time.
now it barely gets 50k users a day.
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P.S. Keeping the same design guarantees familiarity for his bookmarkers. That is often more important than implementing a web 2.0 look/feel.
Sure..... 7 years ago I bookmarked the Hun.... now look where i'm at today - times change - yes I still trust the Hun, but i'm not visiting him on a daily basis anymore - and neither is a lot of his "bookmarkers" either.. they are leaving for other "trusted" sites, in niches that cater more to them.

It's the same thing as 15 years ago, you were forced into listening to certain types of music, and back in the 50s and 60s there were only a few genres period. Those artists made a killing because they had a captive audience, now a days, the world is your oyster and everything is served on a silver platter in just about any combination you can imagine, and if it isn't, someone out there is building it.

That's the change that the graphs really focus on, and like some have previously eluded to, the Hun hasn't changed with the times. But then again, does he really need to when his source of revenue isn't from surfers? When he loses most of his surfers and webmasters don't see signups, and stop buying his paid placements, THEN you'll see changes... until then... he probably doesn't care.

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In the adult industry a lot of people are too affraid to touch something that makes them good money. They don't realize that they could make a lot more money by some simple changes. Imagine if the hun had added a review secion, or an amateur section with user submitted content, or even a 'tube' section, etc. over the past years, anything that made it more web2.0. If he had done that it would probably still be the biggest porn site around + he would make a lot of extra money.
flip that and see the popularity of tube sites
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Old 03-07-2008, 02:36 AM   #75
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The Hun does massive amount of traffic and updates daily. It is one of the sites that we looked at when we did the original design of our sites.
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In the adult industry a lot of people are too affraid to touch something that makes them good money. They don't realize that they could make a lot more money by some simple changes. Imagine if the hun had added a review secion, or an amateur section with user submitted content, or even a 'tube' section, etc. over the past years, anything that made it more web2.0. If he had done that it would probably still be the biggest porn site around + he would make a lot of extra money.
User submitted content is almost all stolen from producers, TheHun runs a pretty tight ship. I can't see him getting caught up with that kind of crap.
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I don't know how reliable alexa is... I've been doing paid spots on thehun for the last couple years and the profit margins haven't changed
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u guys wanna see something sadder ?
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...ax&size=Medium

PK used to be the biggest pornsite in the world at one time.
now it barely gets 50k users a day.
She still has PK.com great name
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And funny thing is: the overflow section of our site has had their best month ever in January 2008!

http://newstats.sextracker.com/st?sk...auth.Id=244789


I think this is a result of adding more niches....
I noticed your VOD link not working.

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You realise they might not be representable for "the world" though right?
Have a look at what quantcast says :
http://www.quantcast.com/thehun.net
Anyone I ever speak to who knows what I do asks me if I know the hun. I'm 24 and generally know people from the age of 18-30. Thats the first site anyone talks about to me anyway.
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You dont change it.
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if you would actualy read my post, I didnt speak about Alexa numbers, I spoke about SEXTRACKER numbers.
So how do you explain that some of biggest old sites lost 50% of traffic and thehun 30% in two years?
The ones whose traffic went down stopped paying for the exit and 404 traffic that sextracker sold. Heh-heh. People, one of the reasons the hun is STILL the biggest tgp in the world is because he doesn't change the basic way his site looks. Yes, he could add a tube section and other little things if he wants to. But he should NEVER change that basic design.
It's like when you go to Disney World and find that they have taken away one of your favorite rides. It pisses you off. Or if you go to that bar that has always been your favorite and find that they have changed the music, the look, the bartenders etc. to be more "modern".
The Hun should keep his basic look. It's what people know and love. Any of the big original TGP's that EVER change their classic style would be making a big mistake.
Yes, add some bells and whistles if you must. But you just don't change a legend.
Anybody remember "new" Coke? Or how about when Ford changed Mustangs to look like square boxes on wheels. Funny how all the newest Mustangs are back to looking like 1969 Mach 1's again isn't it?
I wouldn't give 2 cents for all the cold, heartess cookie cutter sites out there with no personality. I'll take the hun's yellow page with the crudely drawn "viking" cartoon characters any day.
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No, I work with people in the 15-25 age group on a daily basis, and we've talked about porn and not once have I ever heard of anyone talking about "The Hun" - most use torrents or tubes.
I am 23 and i know for hun for a very long time.
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The ones whose traffic went down stopped paying for the exit and 404 traffic that sextracker sold. Heh-heh. People, one of the reasons the hun is STILL the biggest tgp in the world is because he doesn't change the basic way his site looks. Yes, he could add a tube section and other little things if he wants to. But he should NEVER change that basic design.
It's like when you go to Disney World and find that they have taken away one of your favorite rides. It pisses you off. Or if you go to that bar that has always been your favorite and find that they have changed the music, the look, the bartenders etc. to be more "modern".
The Hun should keep his basic look. It's what people know and love. Any of the big original TGP's that EVER change their classic style would be making a big mistake.
Yes, add some bells and whistles if you must. But you just don't change a legend.
Anybody remember "new" Coke? Or how about when Ford changed Mustangs to look like square boxes on wheels. Funny how all the newest Mustangs are back to looking like 1969 Mach 1's again isn't it?
I wouldn't give 2 cents for all the cold, heartess cookie cutter sites out there with no personality. I'll take the hun's yellow page with the crudely drawn "viking" cartoon characters any day.
Tehnicly you are right,i also hate when some site which i visit very often changes their design.But again,new design is important for new customers.It's a same no matter in what biz you are,with old design you keep old customers,but if you want new and more customers then you need to change it.
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anyone have a photo of the hun at hand? I remember him being a long haired dude driving a lambo, or do I mix something up?
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Why would anyone change a site that was the biggest and best in its market? Seriously what would be the point?
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anyone have a photo of the hun at hand? I remember him being a long haired dude driving a lambo, or do I mix something up?
Ohh yah it might have been lambos not ferraris..
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Well I for one can tell you I have a lot of success using the hun.
In fact, when I first started making mgp's, I submitted there, and got so much traffic that it actually crashed my server! I upgraded all my hardware and software, and upped my bandwidth, etc... all because of the hun. I instantly know when my galleries have hit, because the hits go up and more importantly the signups go up.
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The Hun visitors go for the niches. The surfers he lost are most likely the guys who found all the vanilla porn they'll ever need on tube8. He might have lost some traffic, but I think it's actually saving him and his submitters money on bandwidth because these are the guys who would never put a credit card # on any join page anyway.
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Well when his bookmarkers die then that will be the end of The Hun - if he took a look at his demographics, other than us, i'm pretty sure no one else under the age of 25 knows what "The Hun" is....
People have been saying that the Hun is going down the shitter for at least 5 years now, and he still the biggest TGP, to this day.

TGPs in general are a bear in these days. I co-own one myself, and am the first one to admit that TPG traffic and conversions suck donkey dick right now. It's only logical that The Hun is impacted too.

The reason why the Hun is still big is because he is always friendly, clear, and professional. Many micro-TGP owners are behaving like fucking mini dictators, thinking somebody would even give a rats ass if they ban you from their loser-program that gets 4.000 visitors a day, because you accidentally submitted to the wrong category.
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:36 AM   #95
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if they earn money why to change?
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Old 06-27-2008, 11:25 AM   #96
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The Hun knows what many don't...how to treat his traffic like customers.
You click a link at the Hun and you get exactly what it says. With the exception of a few times over the years when some asshole hackers messed with the site,it has been the cleanest most reliable adult site online.

The Hun will be here for a long long time.
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Old 06-27-2008, 11:28 AM   #97
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The Hun visitors go for the niches. The surfers he lost are most likely the guys who found all the vanilla porn they'll ever need on tube8. He might have lost some traffic, but I think it's actually saving him and his submitters money on bandwidth because these are the guys who would never put a credit card # on any join page anyway.
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Old 06-27-2008, 11:37 AM   #98
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No, I work with people in the 15-25 age group on a daily basis, and we've talked about porn and not once have I ever heard of anyone talking about "The Hun" - most use torrents or tubes.
15-25? Disturbing.
What do you tell little boys about porn?
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Old 06-27-2008, 11:41 AM   #99
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15-25? Disturbing.
What do you tell little boys about porn?
Sigh.... nevermind! I meant 18... this thread is 5 months old too...
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Old 06-27-2008, 11:50 AM   #100
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I buy ads there every month and my sales havent dropped with the supposed traffic downfall
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