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Old 02-02-2008, 07:11 AM   #51
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Talk about an amazing waste.
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Old 02-02-2008, 07:45 AM   #52
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Base on many other sales I've seen for 3 letter domains that do not have a brand association or even relate to a specific business or product.

Hat.com would be a more useful name than hot.com in a general market sense.

I realize that hot.com is an awesome name and I would rather have hot.com over hat.com. But I don't have a hat company that makes millions a year and can fork over what ever it takes to get hat.com

Many big companies sell "hats", I don't know anybody selling "hots".


You can get "3 hots and a cot" for free in the pen, but not "3 hats and a cot".

and to think you started this thread giving advice to others...wooohh
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Old 02-02-2008, 08:01 AM   #54
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Domain sellers are notorious for believing their domains is worth millions when it's nest to useless.

Let me guess, you want to sell me s-e-x-y_Ladie-s.com for 100k.
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I do not own or work with anyone with that domain.
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Old 02-02-2008, 08:11 AM   #55
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Shit wanna see a huge waste?
http://hot.com/
FUCK!! THIS IS NOT TRUE!!! Well, he demands peace, which is ok - but what the fuck, a really hot domain there PR5 // 2,5k YBacklinks // 8 years old - great SEO and great type in value... FUCK that!
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I can't figure out why no ones tried to kick up a stink with the local media about a school board/district owning such a valuable domain and only using it for employee email addresses. Seems if the local taxpayers knew what they owned they might not be as receptive to a property tax increase the next time one is proposed.

http://www.summer.com/
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:09 AM   #57
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You and others grossly underestimate how much parked domains make.

I have a few descent ones (nowhere near as good as hot.com) and they bring in $100 or so a day each.

A very good domain name can easily make 2 or 3 thousands daily.
You took my quote about a few specific domains that get about 25 hits a day and tried to claim this was my assessment of domain parking in general.

You'd make a good politician.

This conversation started abot a few domains I was looking at, not hot.com, sex.com etc... someone else brought that up. You can't go back to the top of the thread and try to relate what I said then to hot.com that wasn't even mentioned until way after my original post.

And don't tell us about "secret" domains you own that make $100 from parking. List the domains if you have them and maybe someone will offer you $5 million.
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:19 AM   #58
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I can't figure out why no ones tried to kick up a stink with the local media about a school board/district owning such a valuable domain and only using it for employee email addresses. Seems if the local taxpayers knew what they owned they might not be as receptive to a property tax increase the next time one is proposed.

http://www.summer.com/
Unless this is a "one room school district" selling that domain won't lower anyone's taxes.
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:33 AM   #59
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and to think you started this thread giving advice to others...wooohh
Ok, then my advice to you is go ahead and pay $12 million for hot.com

I mean, if 18k visitors a month is worth $12 million then you got something.

http://siteanalytics.compete.com/hot.com/?src=dt100


600 hits a day is not worth $12 million to me.
Especially when 300 of the hits everyday are political fanatics forcing
there friends to "see this video".

I would rather buy duhduh.com for $9.99 and buy 10k-100k hits a day with the rest of the money.
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:36 AM   #60
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Uhh?

These domains could sell for $2000 easy and that could be put in a savings account or IRA or municipal bond and make a whole lot more by doing nothing.

Not to mention that the $50 a year is going to go down $5 a year as type-ins dwindle because they are useless and searchengines start dropping parked pages from their index.
The big domain investors are so rich that selling for $2k means nothing to them and isn't worth the time.
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:38 AM   #61
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Ok, then my advice to you is go ahead and pay $12 million for hot.com

I mean, if 18k visitors a month is worth $12 million then you got something.

http://siteanalytics.compete.com/hot.com/?src=dt100


600 hits a day is not worth $12 million to me.
Especially when 300 of the hits everyday are political fanatics forcing
there friends to "see this video".

I would rather buy duhduh.com for $9.99 and buy 10k-100k hits a day with the rest of the money.
It wouldn't sell for 12 mil but it will definitely sell for 1 mil if the guy ever decides to sell.
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:41 AM   #62
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Unless this is a "one room school district" selling that domain won't lower anyone's taxes.
Who said anything about lowering taxes?
I live in a metro area with 5+ million people and they discussed opening the outdoor rinks at our parks last year 2 months later then usual to save something like $55,000. The local school board is closing down 22 high school pools, also used by local communities, due to a shortage of funds for the necessary repairs. There are any number of financial problems that selling that domain and using a $8.95 domain instead could solve in my area and the district that owns this domain is much much smaller.

How much do you think summer.com is worth? $25,000, $100,000, $500,000, $1 million +?
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:43 AM   #63
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sorry, take it back. Alexa ranking 400k means at least 1000 uniques a day, got it confused with wrong site of mine.
You don't understand alexa rankings, they also inclde page views in the ranking calculation.

Site-one with 300 hits and 1 page view per hit ranks below
Site-two with 250 hits and 45 page views per hit.

host.com gets about 5k a month, that's nowhere near 1000 hits a day.

http://siteanalytics.compete.com/host.com/?src=dt100
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Ok, then my advice to you is go ahead and pay $12 million for hot.com

I mean, if 18k visitors a month is worth $12 million then you got something.

http://siteanalytics.compete.com/hot.com/?src=dt100


600 hits a day is not worth $12 million to me.
Especially when 300 of the hits everyday are political fanatics forcing
there friends to "see this video".

I would rather buy duhduh.com for $9.99 and buy 10k-100k hits a day with the rest of the money.
You have no idea what its like to think like a billion dollar company. They don't give a shit about hits, they want brandability, something they can put on tv, magazines, etc. You're thinking too much like a webmaster.
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Ok, then my advice to you is go ahead and pay $12 million for hot.com

I mean, if 18k visitors a month is worth $12 million then you got something.

http://siteanalytics.compete.com/hot.com/?src=dt100


600 hits a day is not worth $12 million to me.
Especially when 300 of the hits everyday are political fanatics forcing
there friends to "see this video".

I would rather buy duhduh.com for $9.99 and buy 10k-100k hits a day with the rest of the money.
Siteanalytics is so far off its crazy. One of my sites gets over 200k uniques a month, and it shows 5k. Please try again. lol Alexa gives a better idea of hot.com and again I would say its 300k plus comparing it to what my site is showing. And not sure if you still dont understand the marketablity of such a a domain name. Easy as pie to remember to type in later. Would be a HUGE entity for advertising whatever product was put on it.
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That IS a huge waste indeed.......I was expecting hot chicks but all I see is Kucinich ...PUT his wife instead for crying out loud! ........



Now that's a hot FLILF
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Who said anything about lowering taxes?
I live in a metro area with 5+ million people and they discussed opening the outdoor rinks at our parks last year 2 months later then usual to save something like $55,000. The local school board is closing down 22 high school pools, also used by local communities, due to a shortage of funds for the necessary repairs. There are any number of financial problems that selling that domain and using a $8.95 domain instead could solve in my area and the district that owns this domain is much much smaller.

How much do you think summer.com is worth? $25,000, $100,000, $500,000, $1 million +?
That's the real question here : "What is a domain worth".

"worth" and "selling price" are not the same thing to a smart investor.

Worth can somewhat be calculated by the prior performace of the domain,
it may not be accurate, but it is a figure with truthful data to back it up.

Selling price can be influenced by competition for the domain without regards to it's actual worth.

If 30 multi-million dollar companies all want to buy shoe.com then it will sale to the bidder who can fork out the most simply because they want to win the game. Nike don't want to lose any battle with converse, that might send the wrong message about the companies position in the market.

If 500 different summer youth camps all want summer.com but no major players are interested then don't expect a massive windfall.

Believe me, if the schoolbaord ever gets a "substantial" offer they would call a meeting and vote wether or not to sell.
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And don't tell us about "secret" domains you own that make $100 from parking. List the domains if you have them and maybe someone will offer you $5 million.
They aren't secret and there is no need to list since they aren't for sales.

Picked a few more at the Live extended auction that ended a couple days ago actually

Only 1000 visitors per day on a parked page (generic, no typo or expired traffic) will easily make $100 per day. CTR of 60% at $0.2 per click = $120

If you think these are big numbers in the parking business it shows how little you know about parking.
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You have no idea what its like to think like a billion dollar company. They don't give a shit about hits, they want brandability, something they can put on tv, magazines, etc. You're thinking too much like a webmaster.
I know that big companies don't give a shit about hits and can brand the name.

What you don't get is that they can also brand any fucking name!!

Google.com didn't mean shit until a company branded it and they didn't rely on buying some "cool" sounding name with 3 letters.

Neither did yahoo, or youtube or thehun or blacksonblondes and last but not least mydaughtersfuckinganigga.com

But somebody fucked up and relied on Go.com

Pop.com is a good name too, but too bad they thought the name itself was enough. The only hits on pop.com are probably from employees who have manditory viewing imposed on them.
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Believe me, if the school board ever gets a "substantial" offer they would call a meeting and vote whether or not to sell.
I can think of a few people who have tried to acquire the domain without any luck and they're not the type to make low ball offers . Hell, I think you might even be able to find a thread or two on this board from 4-5 years ago where people mention their attempts to buy summer.com without any success.
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They aren't secret and there is no need to list since they aren't for sales.

Picked a few more at the Live extended auction that ended a couple days ago actually

Only 1000 visitors per day on a parked page (generic, no typo or expired traffic) will easily make $100 per day. CTR of 60% at $0.2 per click = $120

If you think these are big numbers in the parking business it shows how little you know about parking.
I think those numbers are correct however I think you are full of shit when you say you own such domains and can't even post one.

I'm not in disagreeent with you about domain parking; it's more like you can't fuckng read and are trying to make a "non-point" that has nothing to do with anything I said.

Once again: I looked at 5 "specific" domains that get about 25 hits a day and only make $5 a month from parking and those names could sell for thousands with very little effort.

Nobody is debating about profits that can had from parking, just domains that are under performing and are better off sold.
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I can think of a few people who have tried to acquire the domain without any luck and they're not the type to make low ball offers . Hell, I think you might even be able to find a thread or two on this board from 4-5 years ago where people mention their attempts to buy summer.com without any success.
Without mentioning prices that information is useless.

You "know" they make good offers, but you don't know what they offered.
The judge would dismiss you from the witness stand with this information and tell the jury to ignore hearsay.
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I think those numbers are correct however I think you are full of shit when you say you own such domains and can't even post one.
Nobody is debating about profits that can had from parking, just domains that are under performing and are better off sold.
... and I KNOW you don't have a clue what you are talking about

Oh and you'd have to be a complete moron to post a link to a parked page you own, best way to get invalid clicks and trouble.

But to make you happy as soon as it is out of escrow I'll post the domain I just bought at auction, since I intend to develop it
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Without mentioning prices that information is useless.

You "know" they make good offers, but you don't know what they offered.
The judge would dismiss you from the witness stand with this information and tell the jury to ignore hearsay.
Looks like you've had a little bit too much for today
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Unless this is a "one room school district" selling that domain won't lower anyone's taxes.
Your first intelligent post in this thread. Congrats.
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Your first intelligent post in this thread. Congrats.
You've yet to make one though.
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Oh and you'd have to be a complete moron to post a link to a parked page you own, best way to get invalid clicks and trouble.
Congrats on being a total idiot since posting the domain without http means it can't be clicked and everyone would have to type in and give you legitimate traffic.

What a clown.
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Looks like you've had a little bit too much for today


Sadly, I'm just getting started.
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Congrats on being a total idiot since posting the domain without http means it can't be clicked and everyone would have to type in and give you legitimate traffic.

What a clown.
Way to negate my earlier congrats. I am out of here. You obviously have better drugs than any of us.
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Congrats on being a total idiot since posting the domain without http means it can't be clicked and everyone would have to type in and give you legtimate traffic.

What a clown.
Trying to change the subject? It would be hidden, not legitimate.

As for the idiot/clown comment I guess it is all you have left to say after showing how little you know about an important aspect of this business.

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I am out of here.
You aint going anywhere except to check your mail and the fridge.

See you in the next thread in 3 minutes.
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Trying to change the subject? It would be hidden, not legitimate.

As for the idiot/clown comment I guess it is all you have left to say after showing how little you know about an important aspect of this business.
Read my lips :

You don't have a domain
that makes $100 a day from parking
and you are full of shit.


Plenty of domains make $100+++ per day from parking, it's just that you don't have one and made bullshit claims that you did.
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Your first intelligent post in this thread. Congrats.
The just of what I was saying went right over their head and you call it an intelligent post

Here's a very simple example
The local school board, 7,000 total students from K-12, is short $50,000-$75,000 to fix the pool that little timmy swims in at school so they're going to close it down. Local community has a heated debate and pro/con articles are written about the plan to close the pool due to insufficient funds. I'm pretty sure you can fill in the rest for yourselves.
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You don't have a domain
that makes $100 a day from parking
and you are full of shit.


Plenty of domains make $100+++ per day from parking, it's just that you don't have one and made bullshit claims that you did.
Read my lips :

I don't have one, you are right, I have SEVERAL that make that amount.

But you are the only one impressed because......

You are a LOSER that sells tube scripts for a few bucks a pop

Anyway, I am bored, you don't know the value of domains, too bad for you.

Keep selling those scripts, that is where the money is at
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The just of what I was saying went right over their head and you call it an intelligent post

Here's a very simple example
The local school board, 7,000 total students from K-12, is short $50,000-$75,000 to fix the pool that little timmy swims in at school so they're going to close it down. Local community has a heated debate and pro/con articles are written about the plan to close the pool due to insufficient funds. I'm pretty sure you can fill in the rest for yourselves.
Prove that someone made a legitimate offer of $50k and then you have a case. Otherwise you are holding them accountable for imaginary money that you think is there.
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I don't have one, you are right, I have SEVERAL that make that amount.

But you are the only one impressed because......

You are a LOSER that sells tube scripts for a few bucks a pop

Anyway, I am bored, you don't know the value of domains, too bad for you.

Keep selling those scripts, that is where the money is at
Oh, finally you admit the truth! You don't have any domain that makes $100 a day from parking.
What do you have, 300 domains that all together make $100 a day?
Totally believable if so.

I'm was the only one to call you on your bullshit, I'm not impressed.

Well, my scripts sell faster than imaginary domains.

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Old 02-02-2008, 11:40 AM   #87
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Prove that someone made a legitimate offer of $50k and then you have a case. Otherwise you are holding them accountable for imaginary money that you think is there.

Just smoked another flag eh

Not quite sure why you keep asking me to prove anything too you. I was simply pointing out that I was surprised that no one had used a small school districts inevitable yearly budgetary problems and a little bit of media prodding to pry away this domain.
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I have a question for you domain guys: Where is the best place to put adult and non-adult domains up for sale? I have a few decent domains I bought years ago that I never got around to developing.

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Oh, finally you admit the truth! You don't have any domain that makes $100 a day from parking.
What do you have, 300 domains that all together make $100 a day?
Totally believable if so.

I'm was the only one to call you on your bullshit, I'm not impressed.

Well, my scripts sell faster than imaginary domains.

No dickwad I have SEVERAL that make that amount EACH.

But again you are too much of a loser to think that is possible.

Keep selling that shitty script champion, it is definitely is where the money is at
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:50 AM   #90
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I have a question for you domain guys: Where is the best place to put adult and non-adult domains up for sale? I have a few decent domains I bought years ago that I never got around to developing.
To list for sale Sedo, Afternic and Moniker, if you want to park check out:
Domainsponsor, Sedo, Parked, Namedrive...
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Just smoked another flag eh

Not quite sure why you keep asking me to prove anything too you. I was simply pointing out that I was surprised that no one had used a small school districts inevitable yearly budgetary problems and a little bit of media prodding to pry away this domain.
So, they pry it away and sell it and opps! Sold when the market was bad and only netted $20k. Then what?

See, in order to sell it thay would have to hire a "domain consultant" to cover their ass if the sale was premature or didn't produce the expected revenue.
What's that cost? They can't put their jobs on the line when people call then incompetent for selling far under value so they need to put the responsibily in the hands of a professional.

Then they would have to offer this "domain consulting" job on a bidding basis because it's a government contract. They would then have to hire a human resource advertising company to put the job up for bid.

Then they would need to file new tax forms since that have now made a profit on a sale when they are otherwise never engaged in sales and have a non-profit status.

Then they have to fight the city and or state because that actually sold government property and therefore cannot decide soley on their own that the money should go to a particular project. Maybe a bridge needs fixing too, ya know.


It's more complicated than you think and you have no idea of what the domain will actually sell for.

Everybody thinks their domain is worth millions, but that don't make it so.
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No dickwad I have SEVERAL that make that amount EACH.
Post one bitch or STFU!
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So, they pry it away and sell it and opps! Sold when the market was bad and only netted $20k. Then what?

See, in order to sell it thay would have to hire a "domain consultant" to cover their ass if the sale was premature or didn't produce the expected revenue.
What's that cost? They can't put their jobs on the line when people call then incompetent for selling far under value so they need to put the responsibily in the hands of a professional.

Then they would have to offer this "domain consulting" job on a bidding basis because it's a government contract. They would then have to hire a human resource advertising company to put the job up for bid.

Then they would need to file new tax forms since that have now made a profit on a sale when they are otherwise never engaged in sales and have a non-profit status.

Then they have to fight the city and or state because that actually sold government property and therefore cannot decide soley on their own that the money should go to a particular project. Maybe a bridge needs fixing too, ya know.


It's more complicated than you think and you have no idea of what the domain will actually sell for.

Everybody thinks their domain is worth millions, but that don't make it so.
Imagine that, there could be some problems that might get in the way of a business transaction happening.
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Every one is holding on to their domains like they are lottery tickets.

A lot of "not great" domains undeveloped for years wanting for someone to come along and pay $100k.
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