There is one flaw in the movie The Matrix - GoFuckYourself.com

CDSmith · 02-14-2008, 01:03 PM

Or maybe it isn't a flaw and I just haven't figured it out yet, I don't know.

It's the part where Cypher (Joe Pantoliano) meets with Agent Smith for dinner to discuss the betrayal. The FLAW as I see it is... how can Cypher be meeting with Agent Smith, as in... 1. How did he get himself loaded into the matrix for that trip, and 2. someone has to be back on the ship doing the guiding, right? Every time the team goes into the matrix, in order to get back out they need to be guided to the nearest exit and brought back out by picking up a phone. But in Cypher's case there couldn't have been anyone guiding him because they would have known he was in proximity to an agent.

Thus, by the way the story goes and the rules therin there is no way Cypher could have gone in and met with Smith during that scene, and no way for him to get back out once the meeting was over.

I have to be missing something, there's no way the Warchumpsky brothers simply ignored a contradiction like this.

Thoughts?

comeplay · 02-14-2008, 01:04 PM

the rules don't apply to agents

CDSmith · 02-14-2008, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comeplay

the rules don't apply to agents

Cypher isn't an agent.

jalami · 02-14-2008, 01:14 PM

Of course plenty of geeks have discussed this before, but there's still no definitive resolution to this nitpick.

CDSmith · 02-14-2008, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalami

Of course plenty of geeks have discussed this before, but there's still no definitive resolution to this nitpick.

I KNEW IT!

I knew I couldn't be the only one to notice this. :D

Great link, thanks. Lots of good info there.

CDSmith · 02-14-2008, 01:41 PM

Did you just call me a geek?

Fap · 02-14-2008, 01:56 PM

Dont analyze so much, it's a movie.
A good one at that so appreciate it

comeplay · 02-14-2008, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Cypher isn't an agent.

no but he was meeting an agent, so then the rules don't apply

02-14-2008, 01:03 PM	#1
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	There is one flaw in the movie The Matrix Or maybe it isn't a flaw and I just haven't figured it out yet, I don't know. It's the part where Cypher (Joe Pantoliano) meets with Agent Smith for dinner to discuss the betrayal. The FLAW as I see it is... how can Cypher be meeting with Agent Smith, as in... 1. How did he get himself loaded into the matrix for that trip, and 2. someone has to be back on the ship doing the guiding, right? Every time the team goes into the matrix, in order to get back out they need to be guided to the nearest exit and brought back out by picking up a phone. But in Cypher's case there couldn't have been anyone guiding him because they would have known he was in proximity to an agent. Thus, by the way the story goes and the rules therin there is no way Cypher could have gone in and met with Smith during that scene, and no way for him to get back out once the meeting was over. I have to be missing something, there's no way the Warchumpsky brothers simply ignored a contradiction like this. Thoughts? __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

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02-14-2008, 01:41 PM	#6
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02-14-2008, 01:56 PM	#7
Fap Just Du It Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12,094	Dont analyze so much, it's a movie. A good one at that so appreciate it