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Porno Dan · 02-23-2008, 12:38 AM

I have been producing content for nine years. I started out releasing my content on VHS and switched to DVD format in 2002. I released 4 DVD's in January, one DVD this month, and have one more coming out next month. I am leaning towards the idea that this will be the last content that I release on DVD.

I am amazed how many traditional DVD producers and companies have failed to grasp the concept that the DVD business is dead, and that Blu-Ray is not going to save it.

This is from today's AVN.com about Third Degree letting Amy Ried out of her contract.

"We just came to an agreement to go our separate ways," he said. "She had a lot more that she wanted to do; for example, she wants to do a lot more internet, and we?re just not there yet."

Wilson said Third Degree is "finally turning the corner" in its plans for future growth, with an emphasis on hi-def and interactive productions to be released on Blu-ray disc.

"Blu-ray is more conducive to the quality we?re doing [than standard DVD]," said Wilson. "We have four HD DVDs out now, so we?ll reissue those in Blu-ray. We hope to do at least one every other month, between us and [sister studio] Zero Tolerance. We?ll see what the schedule allows."

I wonder how many companies are not going to make the transition to an internet based distribution model and will go out of business in the next year.

seeric · 02-23-2008, 12:50 AM

blu ray is easily pirated too. jesus, its pretty much a glass master on its own. same goes for hd-dvd which i am sure adult will drop shortly too seeing how the movie guys in hollywood are.

when we gonna hang again dan?

we always have a blast.

seeric · 02-23-2008, 12:54 AM

another note is there are tons of studios in the valley scrambling for personnel right now trying to go to web. there are not enough internet people to go around.

Porno Dan · 02-23-2008, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

blu ray is easily pirated too. jesus, its pretty much a glass master on its own. same goes for hd-dvd which i am sure adult will drop shortly too seeing how the movie guys in hollywood are.

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seeric · 02-23-2008, 12:56 AM

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Porno Dan · 02-23-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

blu ray is easily pirated too. jesus, its pretty much a glass master on its own. same goes for hd-dvd which i am sure adult will drop shortly too seeing how the movie guys in hollywood are.

when we gonna hang again dan?

we always have a blast.

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Porno Dan · 02-23-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by munki

Great write up doodz...

Thanks.

I just can't get over how many companies haven't made the transition to the net.

Rochard · 02-23-2008, 11:15 AM

DVD is dieing, and we haven't seen the tip of the iceberg yet. Wait until we download entire two hour feature length movies in seconds..... And instnatly stream that to our wide screen TVs. That will be the final nail in the coffin.

teksonline · 02-23-2008, 11:18 AM

why are you not putting your dvd's on tube sites, thats how you get rich no?

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ninavain · 02-23-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

I have been producing content for nine years. I started out releasing my content on VHS and switched to DVD format in 2002. I released 4 DVD's in January, one DVD this month, and have one more coming out next month. I am leaning towards the idea that this will be the last content that I release on DVD.

I am amazed how many traditional DVD producers and companies have failed to grasp the concept that the DVD business is dead, and that Blu-Ray is not going to save it.

This is from today's AVN.com about Third Degree letting Amy Ried out of her contract.

"We just came to an agreement to go our separate ways," he said. "She had a lot more that she wanted to do; for example, she wants to do a lot more internet, and we?re just not there yet."

Wilson said Third Degree is "finally turning the corner" in its plans for future growth, with an emphasis on hi-def and interactive productions to be released on Blu-ray disc.

"Blu-ray is more conducive to the quality we?re doing [than standard DVD]," said Wilson. "We have four HD DVDs out now, so we?ll reissue those in Blu-ray. We hope to do at least one every other month, between us and [sister studio] Zero Tolerance. We?ll see what the schedule allows."

I wonder how many companies are not going to make the transition to an internet based distribution model and will go out of business in the next year.

I'd say MOST of the porn companies in LA, that haven't opened their affiliate programs yet, will be hurting for sure

ninavain · 02-23-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

blu ray is easily pirated too. jesus, its pretty much a glass master on its own. same goes for hd-dvd which i am sure adult will drop shortly too seeing how the movie guys in hollywood are.

when we gonna hang again dan?

we always have a blast.

they have no choice, but to drop HD-DVD, Toshiba is not making those disc anymore

Porno Dan · 02-23-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain

I'd say MOST of the porn companies in LA, that haven't opened their affiliate programs yet, will be hurting for sure

Most of the traditional DVD companies have some type of cash program.

The problem is they have no idea how to market or drive traffic to them.

aico · 02-23-2008, 08:08 PM

There is a reason why Apple is holding off on putting Blue-rays in their machines... With downloadable HD video (which they sell) why would they want to lose out on that revenue?

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amacontent · 02-23-2008, 09:02 PM

I DISAGREE 100% that the dvd buisness is dead. My numbers are the best they have ever been and have rose steadily the last 18 months. You gotta know what your doing, use the right talent , right editor , box cover designer.
You cant just shoot a few scenes, slap a box together and think if you dont sell 2500 pieces out the door..oh welll dvds are dead.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-23-2008, 09:05 PM

You are correct.

the sad thing is there are plenty of adult internet companies that would be glad to work with the content and produce money for the productions and overall continuation.

On Demand Content, DVD, , Cable On Demand, Web Site Subscriptions are the keys and seriously only a few guys got a grasp of that.

In the past few years it has been sad to see a few labels fall off the map that made great porn.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-23-2008, 09:08 PM

Blu Ray is going to be no savior whats so ever.
Thats impossible at this point.

Jim_Gunn · 02-23-2008, 09:44 PM

I think that DVDs in some format will be around for a long while and coexist with online downloading and streaming on PPV or VOD. It's competitive but there is still money to be made if you have good movies.

Porno Dan · 02-23-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

I DISAGREE 100% that the dvd buisness is dead. My numbers are the best they have ever been and have rose steadily the last 18 months. You gotta know what your doing, use the right talent , right editor , box cover designer.
You cant just shoot a few scenes, slap a box together and think if you dont sell 2500 pieces out the door..oh welll dvds are dead.

We have had this discussion. I know that Juicy is doing a good for you with your product; however, you have to admit that if you didn't use that same content to bring you revenue on the net you would lose money.

You yourself have opened up a cash program within the last year.

It is only a matter of time before more traditional DVD companies go out of business.

Luckily you do not fall into this category, as you shoot for other web based companies, resell your content on the net, and have a cash program.

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jay23 · 02-23-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

another note is there are tons of studios in the valley scrambling for personnel right now trying to go to web. there are not enough internet people to go around.

The problem is that most studios in the valley don't want to spend the money. Internet expertise (programing, marketing, design) is expensive and you can blame the Web 2.0 companies ...its like a dot.com type of environment.

Trying to explain why our VOD software is not $99.95 is the fun part i have with studios who call me.

seeric · 02-23-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jay23

The problem is that most studios in the valley don't want to spend the money. Internet expertise (programing, marketing, design) is expensive and you can blame the Web 2.0 companies ...its like a dot.com type of environment.

Trying to explain why our VOD software is not $99.95 is the fun part i have with studios who call me.

yup. they think they can get a marketing person to blow up their brand for 45k a year too.

someone who will make you millions will work for 45k?

not likely.

Porno Dan · 02-23-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

yup. they think they can get a marketing person to blow up their brand for 45k a year too.

someone who will make you millions will work for 45k?

not likely.

You are very lucky that you work for one of the few traditional DVD companies that understand your value, yet you are still underpaid in my opinion.

Most traditional DVD company owners can't, or won't educate themselves on the net; as a result, they don't appreciate or understand it.

Sebastian Sands · 02-24-2008, 12:00 AM

Dan! you have a bad case of ADD?.... hehe. just messin with ya bro.

DVD companies can still make money, a lot of the traditional DVD companies own huge libraries of killer content. But I have to agree that a lot of them do not know how to market this on the web.

For example (and I apologize in advance to anyone who takes this personally) Evil Angel, they have tried it several ways, this company has superb content and could make a killing and blow many others out of the water. But for some reason it is not doing it. I do not know why, maybe webmasters aren't promoting them, maybe their aff program isn't ran the way it should. I have no idea, but fact of the matter is. Unless a DVD company is willing to team up with some of the bigger players on the web it's going to be tough for them.

TT Boy for example, OC Cash and him are a great combo. I am pretty sure that Brandon Iron is doing awesome with Braincash as well.

DVD as a stand alone product is tough, you "might" break even, you need to do a lot more to make money, phone, VOD, paysites etc etc.. whore your content out so to speak.

just my 2 cents

Sebastian

WWC · 02-24-2008, 12:36 AM

Many studios are coming on board with WWC ..... watch for them soon.... 4 new ones just last week ;-) titles will be available for licensing soon...we will make them happy and webmasters happy for fresh new content.

Sebastian Sands · 02-24-2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WWC-Raffi

Many studios are coming on board with WWC ..... watch for them soon.... 4 new ones just last week ;-) titles will be available for licensing soon...we will make them happy and webmasters happy for fresh new content.

No offense to you or your company, but many companies let you sell their titles because they don't know HOW to do what the big aff programs do. if they knew I doubt you would have so many titles. I guess this is good for you. They are using your store to generate some extra cash. If they ever do smart up and decide to open their own sites they will have to fight with their own content that was once exclusive to them.

Sebs

Porno Dan · 02-24-2008, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands

Dan! you have a bad case of ADD?.... hehe. just messin with ya bro.

DVD companies can still make money, a lot of the traditional DVD companies own huge libraries of killer content. But I have to agree that a lot of them do not know how to market this on the web.

For example (and I apologize in advance to anyone who takes this personally) Evil Angel, they have tried it several ways, this company has superb content and could make a killing and blow many others out of the water. But for some reason it is not doing it. I do not know why, maybe webmasters aren't promoting them, maybe their aff program isn't ran the way it should. I have no idea, but fact of the matter is. Unless a DVD company is willing to team up with some of the bigger players on the web it's going to be tough for them.

TT Boy for example, OC Cash and him are a great combo. I am pretty sure that Brandon Iron is doing awesome with Braincash as well.

DVD as a stand alone product is tough, you "might" break even, you need to do a lot more to make money, phone, VOD, paysites etc etc.. whore your content out so to speak.

just my 2 cents

Sebastian

I totally agree with you.

So my little dutch cupcake, who do you think will close up shop in 2008?

thebossxxx · 02-24-2008, 01:11 AM

Dvds are a dead dog and sales are down 60% from 3 years ago--

We are lucky that our incredibledigital dvds are selling in the top 10 in the world for our big boob and milf lines, but even though we are at the top we are only making beer money!

Yes I believe many of these dvd companies will either sell, consolidate or go out of business this year! We are in the process of negotiating with some of the largest dvd companies in the world for partnerships and internet paysite rights, because they have no idea how to run paysites...

Wish i had a brighter outlook,,,

Porno Dan · 02-24-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by thebossxxx

Dvds are a dead dog and sales are down 60% from 3 years ago--

We are lucky that our incredibledigital dvds are selling in the top 10 in the world for our big boob and milf lines, but even though we are at the top we are only making beer money!

Yes I believe many of these dvd companies will either sell, consolidate or go out of business this year! We are in the process of negotiating with some of the largest dvd companies in the world for partnerships and internet paysite rights, because they have no idea how to run paysites...

Wish i had a brighter outlook,,,

That's for the insight.

I am sure that many DVD based companies would love for a company like yours to manage and run pay sites for them.

The problem is that their a very few cash progams that have the resources to take on the very large number of DVD companies that exisit.

Far-L · 02-24-2008, 01:31 PM

For as long as I have been in the biz I have seen so many companies come along seem like they were the biggest thing since sliced bread then end up toast. A lot of old school companies that tried to outsource their internet just got burned. Others tried to create internal departments and found it impossible to sort between the glorified reps that really don't have a clue other than posting on message boards and self taught programmers that have ego issues and write code that basically implodes on itself when the volume reaches a certain level.

Sun Tzu once said "victory is living long enough to see the bodies of your enemies floating past in the river".

I say surviving adversity and change is 9/10s of success in any business.

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seeric · 02-24-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

For as long as I have been in the biz I have seen so many companies come along seem like they were the biggest thing since sliced bread then end up toast. A lot of old school companies that tried to outsource their internet just got burned. Others tried to create internal departments and found it impossible to sort between the glorified reps that really don't have a clue other than posting on message boards and self taught programmers that have ego issues and write code that basically implodes on itself when the volume reaches a certain level.

Sun Tzu once said "victory is living long enough to see the bodies of your enemies floating past in the river".

I say surviving adversity and change is 9/10s of success in any business.

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seeric · 02-24-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

You are very lucky that you work for one of the few traditional DVD companies that understand your value, yet you are still underpaid in my opinion.

Most traditional DVD company owners can't, or won't educate themselves on the net; as a result, they don't appreciate or understand it.

when i make people money i modify my salary accordingly.

development phases are just the way this business runs. i work in phases. develop. generate revenue, develop, generate revenue. you can never be 100% on and go go go with internet people, they get tired of you.

i am happy with where i am at for the moment.

jay23 · 02-24-2008, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

For as long as I have been in the biz I have seen so many companies come along seem like they were the biggest thing since sliced bread then end up toast. A lot of old school companies that tried to outsource their internet just got burned. Others tried to create internal departments and found it impossible to sort between the glorified reps that really don't have a clue other than posting on message boards and self taught programmers that have ego issues and write code that basically implodes on itself when the volume reaches a certain level.

Sun Tzu once said "victory is living long enough to see the bodies of your enemies floating past in the river".

I say surviving adversity and change is 9/10s of success in any business.

Very true. I can write a book on companies that burned money on so called marketing consultants and in house software developers who did all they can to keep their jobs by taking the companies IT department hostage...worse programs who turn out to be marketing and marketing people who think they can code.

CarlosTheGaucho · 02-24-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan

Most traditional DVD company owners can't, or won't educate themselves on the net; as a result, they don't appreciate or understand it.

Well you said that all, it's no secret nor surprise but this is what's happening..

btw. I will have my samples shipped soon just awaiting till they put it all together..

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Porno Dan · 02-24-2008, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

For as long as I have been in the biz I have seen so many companies come along seem like they were the biggest thing since sliced bread then end up toast. A lot of old school companies that tried to outsource their internet just got burned. Others tried to create internal departments and found it impossible to sort between the glorified reps that really don't have a clue other than posting on message boards and self taught programmers that have ego issues and write code that basically implodes on itself when the volume reaches a certain level.

Sun Tzu once said "victory is living long enough to see the bodies of your enemies floating past in the river".

I say surviving adversity and change is 9/10s of success in any business.

I hope some traditional DVD company owners read this post and pay attention to what Far-L posted.

No one has been more successful producing amateur DVD's than Homegrown Video.

Very well said my friend.

Porno Dan · 02-24-2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

when i make people money i modify my salary accordingly.

development phases are just the way this business runs. i work in phases. develop. generate revenue, develop, generate revenue. you can never be 100% on and go go go with internet people, they get tired of you.

i am happy with where i am at for the moment.

I know you are happy, you work for a great company!

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sinclair · 02-24-2008, 11:31 PM

I can tell you one thing, I highly doubt Third Degree will be one of the companies.

Mutt · 02-24-2008, 11:47 PM

i doubt any of the DVD companies who have partnered up with affiliate programs would say they are doing 'awesome'.

maybe TTBoy if he's got a good deal with OC Cash since it's a revshare program that seems to do well.

WWC · 02-24-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands

No offense to you or your company, but many companies let you sell their titles because they don't know HOW to do what the big aff programs do. if they knew I doubt you would have so many titles. I guess this is good for you. They are using your store to generate some extra cash. If they ever do smart up and decide to open their own sites they will have to fight with their own content that was once exclusive to them.

Sebs

Look my friend, the studios who sign with WWC not just sign for us to license their content through WWC but sign off their internet rights and i make their internet decisions and trust me they are building sites with their new releases...we all dont have a choice, studios are eventually establishing their entire business online....

so to clear things up, we get exclusive internet rights meaning all internet rights....hint you will see many newer titles first in WWF and first on WWC before anywhere else online ( unless sites are build with new releases which you will hear about to promote...)

Lykos · 02-24-2008, 11:48 PM

offline market is pretty much dead now

Sebastian Sands · 02-25-2008, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by WWC-Raffi

Look my friend, the studios who sign with WWC not just sign for us to license their content through WWC but sign off their internet rights and i make their internet decisions and trust me they are building sites with their new releases...we all dont have a choice, studios are eventually establishing their entire business online....

so to clear things up, we get exclusive internet rights meaning all internet rights....hint you will see many newer titles first in WWF and first on WWC before anywhere else online ( unless sites are build with new releases which you will hear about to promote...)

No need to defend yourself, like I stated earlier. UNLESS a DVD company partners with an established web company it is going to be tough for them to do it on their own. My first thought was cash programs, and sure companies like yours are also options. But fact of the matter is that companies that are strong in one market don't always succeed on their own in another, even though it is both porn. No comparison.

Porno Dan · 02-25-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

Well you said that all, it's no secret nor surprise but this is what's happening..

btw. I will have my samples shipped soon just awaiting till they put it all together..

Thanks, we look foward to seeing your content

Porno Dan · 02-25-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

i doubt any of the DVD companies who have partnered up with affiliate programs would say they are doing 'awesome'.

maybe TTBoy if he's got a good deal with OC Cash since it's a revshare program that seems to do well.

Ask XXX Jay or JC of OC Cash how well TT Boy has done.

"Awesome" would probably be a good word to describe it.

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Porno Dan Court Jester Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Budapest Posts: 6,342	Which Video Companies will go out of business in 2008 I have been producing content for nine years. I started out releasing my content on VHS and switched to DVD format in 2002. I released 4 DVD's in January, one DVD this month, and have one more coming out next month. I am leaning towards the idea that this will be the last content that I release on DVD. I am amazed how many traditional DVD producers and companies have failed to grasp the concept that the DVD business is dead, and that Blu-Ray is not going to save it. This is from today's AVN.com about Third Degree letting Amy Ried out of her contract. "We just came to an agreement to go our separate ways," he said. "She had a lot more that she wanted to do; for example, she wants to do a lot more internet, and we?re just not there yet." Wilson said Third Degree is "finally turning the corner" in its plans for future growth, with an emphasis on hi-def and interactive productions to be released on Blu-ray disc. "Blu-ray is more conducive to the quality we?re doing [than standard DVD]," said Wilson. "We have four HD DVDs out now, so we?ll reissue those in Blu-ray. We hope to do at least one every other month, between us and [sister studio] Zero Tolerance. We?ll see what the schedule allows." I wonder how many companies are not going to make the transition to an internet based distribution model and will go out of business in the next year. __________________ Reality TV Star, AVN Hall of Fame, Five-Time XBIZ Winner 2021 XBIZ Europe Winner Best Director Site Promote the sites where members get paid to get laid by their favorite porn stars

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seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	blu ray is easily pirated too. jesus, its pretty much a glass master on its own. same goes for hd-dvd which i am sure adult will drop shortly too seeing how the movie guys in hollywood are. when we gonna hang again dan? we always have a blast.

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seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	another note is there are tons of studios in the valley scrambling for personnel right now trying to go to web. there are not enough internet people to go around.

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aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	There is a reason why Apple is holding off on putting Blue-rays in their machines... With downloadable HD video (which they sell) why would they want to lose out on that revenue?

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amacontent STANLEY CUP CHAMPION ! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,871	I DISAGREE 100% that the dvd buisness is dead. My numbers are the best they have ever been and have rose steadily the last 18 months. You gotta know what your doing, use the right talent , right editor , box cover designer. You cant just shoot a few scenes, slap a box together and think if you dont sell 2500 pieces out the door..oh welll dvds are dead. __________________ Joe Loughlin [email protected] TEAM- joeloughlin. Telegram - AMA_JOE https://www.amaproduction.com

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	You are correct. the sad thing is there are plenty of adult internet companies that would be glad to work with the content and produce money for the productions and overall continuation. On Demand Content, DVD, , Cable On Demand, Web Site Subscriptions are the keys and seriously only a few guys got a grasp of that. In the past few years it has been sad to see a few labels fall off the map that made great porn. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 02-23-2008 at 09:07 PM..

02-23-2008, 09:08 PM	#20
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Blu Ray is going to be no savior whats so ever. Thats impossible at this point. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

02-23-2008, 09:44 PM	#21
Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	I think that DVDs in some format will be around for a long while and coexist with online downloading and streaming on PPV or VOD. It's competitive but there is still money to be made if you have good movies.

02-23-2008, 10:23 PM	#23
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02-24-2008, 12:00 AM	#27
Sebastian Sands Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ICQ: 211-417-740 Posts: 5,223	Dan! you have a bad case of ADD?.... hehe. just messin with ya bro. DVD companies can still make money, a lot of the traditional DVD companies own huge libraries of killer content. But I have to agree that a lot of them do not know how to market this on the web. For example (and I apologize in advance to anyone who takes this personally) Evil Angel, they have tried it several ways, this company has superb content and could make a killing and blow many others out of the water. But for some reason it is not doing it. I do not know why, maybe webmasters aren't promoting them, maybe their aff program isn't ran the way it should. I have no idea, but fact of the matter is. Unless a DVD company is willing to team up with some of the bigger players on the web it's going to be tough for them. TT Boy for example, OC Cash and him are a great combo. I am pretty sure that Brandon Iron is doing awesome with Braincash as well. DVD as a stand alone product is tough, you "might" break even, you need to do a lot more to make money, phone, VOD, paysites etc etc.. whore your content out so to speak. just my 2 cents Sebastian

02-24-2008, 12:36 AM	#28
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02-24-2008, 01:11 AM	#31
thebossxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,209	Dvds are a dead dog and sales are down 60% from 3 years ago-- We are lucky that our incredibledigital dvds are selling in the top 10 in the world for our big boob and milf lines, but even though we are at the top we are only making beer money! Yes I believe many of these dvd companies will either sell, consolidate or go out of business this year! We are in the process of negotiating with some of the largest dvd companies in the world for partnerships and internet paysite rights, because they have no idea how to run paysites... Wish i had a brighter outlook,,, __________________ www.IncredibleDollars.com $50 PPS w/Trials 60% *Rev Share 60% w/no Pre checked cross sales! & and If pre checks are crossed you get $50 bucks! www.IncredibePass.com www.TitsandAssPass.com 100% Exclusive content guarenteed! Glenn at Incredible dollars dot com Our Best Converting sites: BTCA, Hot60Plus HairyNaturalGirls Sororitysistas, Sweetyurizan, Bbwdepot Blackbootyinvasion AriaValentino BigBoobsfatBooty UnivesrityBubbleButts Momsacheater Arabstreethookers whitecicksinblackchicks AsianchicksAmericanDicks

02-24-2008, 01:31 PM	#33
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	For as long as I have been in the biz I have seen so many companies come along seem like they were the biggest thing since sliced bread then end up toast. A lot of old school companies that tried to outsource their internet just got burned. Others tried to create internal departments and found it impossible to sort between the glorified reps that really don't have a clue other than posting on message boards and self taught programmers that have ego issues and write code that basically implodes on itself when the volume reaches a certain level. Sun Tzu once said "victory is living long enough to see the bodies of your enemies floating past in the river". I say surviving adversity and change is 9/10s of success in any business. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

02-24-2008, 02:45 PM	#34
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02-24-2008, 02:48 PM	#35
Fap Just Du It Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12,094	blockbuster!~

02-24-2008, 04:07 PM	#40
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	all access dvd sites are becoming much more popular...check out AMC for a good converting one __________________ Sig heil

02-24-2008, 11:31 PM	#43
sinclair Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,431	I can tell you one thing, I highly doubt Third Degree will be one of the companies. __________________ -- skype:vmgsinclair "Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human sex."

02-24-2008, 11:47 PM	#44
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	i doubt any of the DVD companies who have partnered up with affiliate programs would say they are doing 'awesome'. maybe TTBoy if he's got a good deal with OC Cash since it's a revshare program that seems to do well. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

02-24-2008, 11:48 PM	#46
Lykos Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: World Posts: 31,027	offline market is pretty much dead now __________________

02-25-2008, 10:45 AM	#50
Porno Dan Court Jester Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Budapest Posts: 6,342	Bump for Monday Morning Readers of GFY. __________________ Reality TV Star, AVN Hall of Fame, Five-Time XBIZ Winner 2021 XBIZ Europe Winner Best Director Site Promote the sites where members get paid to get laid by their favorite porn stars