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mrkrabs · 02-24-2008, 05:16 AM

i would say that this is the typical paul thread

SayWhut · 02-24-2008, 06:12 AM

HAHAH THIS PIC IS TOO DAMN FUNNY:-

Sorry ... but it's hilarious .... HHAHA OMFG HAHAHAHAH

pornask · 02-24-2008, 06:22 AM

owner of photographs issues license for use of his/her copyrighted work. If this work is used outside of license terms, it's wrong. Plain and simple. If you don't have the license to publish images affiliate areas, you simply can't do that. There's nothing else to discuss here.

Paul Markham · 02-24-2008, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pornonada

So it would be, $250 + 4 x $2.200 = $9.050

reading your next post it seems you would like to have that whole thing taxed another time when the program is finally transfered to the new owners. But anyway, that offer isn't of any interest for me neither i want to deal in some days again with the transfer to the new owner again so i will stick with the removal.
Send me please the 5 issued licenses so we can lookup your content and forward them to removeyourcontent so he can go through everything way faster and more easy or send them just directly to him if you feel more comfortable that way, there is actually no need for me. So in some time your content will be removed from all smokincash sites, fhgs and tours, i hope you are satisfied now.

Now the final question, as the content would get lost that way i at very least would prefer that the previous owner and original buyer of the content could use the content than. How much will it cost to add an additionally doman to the license agreement? From what i see the license is for 10 domains, but only used on 3 domains, so is there a fee to have the 3 removed and add other domains to the previous owner so at very least he can use the content?! Just a thought so the money paid once isn't lost totally.

No it would of been $250 for all the licenses and the resupply of the content.

But the original license does not give the licensee the right to resell it. So if you want to sell it on again you're asking for a brand new license. Not the old one transfered. A license we don't give to others.

As for the original buyer using the content again. This clearly shows your lack of understanding of license terms. Go back and read them and see why I am well within my rights to turn down this request.

License terms are there for a reason. To stop people from abusing them.

As for your eagerness to remove the content. You can make an immediate start with these banners and any content that relates to them inside the site.

LesboFever.com MyExGirlfriendz.com ToyTeenies.com

And the images that are with this one.

But you have known this for a while now.

The rest I will do when I have time, I have to go shopping. But here's a tip. If you don't own a license you probably should question whether you have the rights to publish or resell it to a new owner.

I never said you had anything to do with getting me shit listed. So no accusations.

pornonada · 02-24-2008, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No it would of been $250 for all the licenses and the resupply of the content.

But the original license does not give the licensee the right to resell it. So if you want to sell it on again you're asking for a brand new license. Not the old one transfered. A license we don't give to others.

Ok, i was just considering to pay these US$ 250 bucks so at least the tour pages and member areas could be used and restored as they have been, but that comment made me again immediatly clear that you are not interested in a solution. You are well aware that we are in the process of selling smokincash at the moment, so just another typical "Paul-Markham-impossible-to-agree-proposal", right?
What are you trying to do? Do you mean that the proposal is US$ 250 for transfering it to me and at the very same time a brand new license for US$ 2.200 for the new owners of smokincash in some days? Or is it US$ 250 to me and US$ 250 for the new owners? I realy get confused with all that offers and proposals...

gideongallery · 02-24-2008, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The original license was never sold to a company, it's to an individual who does not have the license or never showed it to to Pornonada. That license allows the licensee to use it on his domains.

It is not to a corporation, it's not to domains and it clearly states it's not transferable by the licensee. Where did you get that it was sold to a corporation?

granted i am not personally involved in this transaction so i can not say with certainty that it is a corporation HOWEVER i am fully aware of the legal hoops you have to jump thru to get a corporate entity to buy something for an individual, even when that individual is the 100% owner.

I know that the affiliate program was a corp since we were paid out of a corp account.

at least in canada and i believe in the US, the default status of a representative of a corporation entering into an agreement using that company money to pay for said agreement is "agent of" status.

basically under the conditions you stated you entered into a fraudlent contract
which would allow the corporation (smokincash) the right to revoke and ask for a refund.

if i were pornonada would be asking questions like
did you get the directors of the smokincash corporation to sign off on the assignment of a licience to an outside individual?

if the answer is yes
can you prove that you got such written authorization ?

Quickdraw · 02-24-2008, 08:31 AM

Paul you know full well what you are doing here is wrong.

There is no point in arguing with you. You only hear what you want to hear, and in doing so your argument is skewed.

A misunderstanding does not make one a 'Scammer and Pirate', but if it makes you feel better, carry on with your lies, many lies since this started.

rowan · 02-24-2008, 11:53 AM

Pornonada, I'd just say "fuck it" and remove his content. Too much hassle over something that should be very simple to resolve. I'm sick of reading all these twists myself, you must be tearing your hair out trying to understand what the fuck Paul wants you to do...

gideongallery · 02-25-2008, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No it would of been $250 for all the licenses and the resupply of the content.

But the original license does not give the licensee the right to resell it. So if you want to sell it on again you're asking for a brand new license. Not the old one transfered. A license we don't give to others.

see this is where i have a problem with what you were claiming

if the pornonada were to pay you $250 why does he have to do it as an individual
why can't he purchase it as the corporation so that when he sells it the liciencee does not change

the new owner of the corporation would own the existing licience and therefore have no need to purchase another licience from you again, because there was no tranfer of the liciences (since it was the same corporation)

you seem to be saying that a corporation can't buy a licience, which brings us back to my original post.

theking · 02-26-2008, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

see this is where i have a problem with what you were claiming

if the pornonada were to pay you $250 why does he have to do it as an individual
why can't he purchase it as the corporation so that when he sells it the liciencee does not change

the new owner of the corporation would own the existing licience and therefore have no need to purchase another licience from you again, because there was no tranfer of the liciences (since it was the same corporation)

you seem to be saying that a corporation can't buy a licience, which brings us back to my original post.

No response for you I guess...but it is clear to me that...clueless...sells to a person...so if that person sells his business...the new owner/person has to repurchase the same content once again. In a brick and mortar business it would be like the new owner of the business would have to repurchase the stock from the wholesaler all over again...even though the wholesaler had already been paid for the stock by the previous owner. Nice scam...I guess...if one can get away with it.

V_RocKs · 02-26-2008, 03:22 AM

Three pages?

Enemator · 02-26-2008, 04:06 AM

ladidadida...

02-24-2008, 05:16 AM	#101
mrkrabs Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell Posts: 567	i would say that this is the typical paul thread __________________

02-26-2008, 04:06 AM	#112
Enemator Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,252	ladidadida... __________________ I live in your nightmares. I make you dream you're getting bumfucked by a razor blade only to wake up and find I gave your wife an enema and tube-fed you her shit.

02-24-2008, 06:12 AM	#102
SayWhut Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: United Blingdom Posts: 962	HAHAH THIS PIC IS TOO DAMN FUNNY:- Sorry ... but it's hilarious .... HHAHA OMFG HAHAHAHAH

02-24-2008, 06:22 AM	#103
pornask So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 253-233-241 Posts: 6,518	owner of photographs issues license for use of his/her copyrighted work. If this work is used outside of license terms, it's wrong. Plain and simple. If you don't have the license to publish images affiliate areas, you simply can't do that. There's nothing else to discuss here.

02-24-2008, 08:31 AM	#107
Quickdraw Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: → → → Posts: 1,717	Paul you know full well what you are doing here is wrong. There is no point in arguing with you. You only hear what you want to hear, and in doing so your argument is skewed. A misunderstanding does not make one a 'Scammer and Pirate', but if it makes you feel better, carry on with your lies, many lies since this started.

02-24-2008, 11:53 AM	#108
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Pornonada, I'd just say "fuck it" and remove his content. Too much hassle over something that should be very simple to resolve. I'm sick of reading all these twists myself, you must be tearing your hair out trying to understand what the fuck Paul wants you to do...

02-26-2008, 03:22 AM	#111
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	Three pages?